Photos from when Punk Mattered

[Herr Professor Doktor Doom]

I think the point Rhett is missing is that while punk may have only directly influenced a few people, most of those people were musicians and artists.  As a result, the influence on music that has come since , including mainstream rock, has been enormous.  
 
 Of course, if that doesn't matter to you, then no, punk doesn't matter.  It's not like it changed the course of world history, but it changed the course of music -- and presumably if you're on this board, that matters to you?
 
 And I will say that contemporary "punk" doesn't matter at all.  At this point it's just repackaged nostalgia.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

You could also argue that the Grateful Dead were a huge influence on musicians and artists and consequently on mainstream rock. But I don't presume that it matters to everyone on this board.
 
 Did I miss something? Is this the punk rock/mainstream rock chatboard, or is it the 9:30 chatboard? The last time I checked, the 9:30 Club booked all kinds of music via all kinds of bands, some of which may not have been influenced by punk at all. Right?
 
 

Originally posted by Doctor Doom:
  I think the point Rhett is missing is that while punk may have only directly influenced a few people, most of those people were musicians and artists.  As a result, the influence on music that has come since , including mainstream rock, has been enormous.  
 
 Of course, if that doesn't matter to you, then no, punk doesn't matter.  It's not like it changed the course of world history, but it changed the course of music -- and presumably if you're on this board, that matters to you?
 
 And I will say that contemporary "punk" doesn't matter at all.  At this point it's just repackaged nostalgia.

Originally posted by Etan de Balzac, Footie Ball Player:
 Did I miss something?

I'll bet you didn't miss Brokeback Mountain...
 
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[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

Like you, I will be seeing that film. But probably not until after Syriana and King Kong.

[Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface]

Originally posted by Etan de Balzac, Footie Ball Player:
  Did I miss something?  

Apparently yes, every morning when you look in the mirror you miss the fact you're a giant douchebag.

Whatever do you mean?
 
 I am only allowed into films if there are talking animals.

[Arlette]

Originally posted by Etan de Balzac, Footie Ball Player:
  You could also argue that the Grateful Dead were a huge influence on musicians and artists and consequently on mainstream rock. But I don't presume that it matters to everyone on this board.
 

Well, not speaking for everyone, but the Dead and their influence definitely matter to me.  Not as a fan of the Dead, but as a fan of music.  They pioneered live taping, mail order tickets (really, the first fan club), constant touring to make money rather than record royalties, Jerry's influence as a guitarist, lighting as part of the show, etc., etc.   Even the first time a hand was stamped to show someone entered the venue after turnign in their ticket happened at a Dead show.  
 
 Maybe it's semantics surrounding the word "matters".  Any band and/or genre that was pioneering and influential matters to me.  I may not listen to it, but it matters.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

All good points.
 
 Bottom line is that to some people punk matters quite a bit. To others, maybe a bit. To even others, not at all.
 
 Blah blah blah. This topic has become boring. Well maybe not the punk topic itself, but the punk matters discussion. Can we all agree on that?
 
 
 

Originally posted by Arlette:
   

Originally posted by Etan de Balzac, Footie Ball Player:
  You could also argue that the Grateful Dead were a huge influence on musicians and artists and consequently on mainstream rock. But I don't presume that it matters to everyone on this board.
 

Well, not speaking for everyone, but the Dead and their influence definitely matter to me.  Not as a fan of the Dead, but as a fan of music.  They pioneered live taping, mail order tickets (really, the first fan club), constant touring to make money rather than record royalties, Jerry's influence as a guitarist, lighting as part of the show, etc., etc.   Even the first time a hand was stamped to show someone entered the venue after turnign in their ticket happened at a Dead show.  
 
 Maybe it's semantics surrounding the word "matters".  Any band and/or genre that was pioneering and influential matters to me.  I may not listen to it, but it matters. [/b]

[chaz]

Originally posted by Etan de Balzac, Footie Ball Player:
  All good points.
 
 Bottom line is that to some people punk matters quite a bit. To others, maybe a bit. To even others, not at all.
 
 

Duh.  That's only what everyone's been saying for the last day and a half.  Finally sinking in, is it?

[bearman🐻]

I can agree that you've become boring. You seem to have an opinion on everything. We could have a thread on Latvian folk music and you would post on it and have something to say, but it would something negative or you would go out of your way to disagree with people just to be antagonizing.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

No need for personal attacks there, big guy.
 
 And I disagree with what you say. Based on the narrow tastes expressed on the top 10 concert lists (talk about boring!), I sincerely doubt the people on this board could have a serious discussion about Latvian folk music. If I'm wrong, I'll be the first to loudly applaud such a discussion.
 
   

Originally posted by bearman:
  I can agree that you've become boring. You seem to have an opinion on everything. We could have a thread on Latvian folk music and you would post on it and have something to say, but it would something negative or you would go out of your way to disagree with people just to be antagonizing.

[bearman🐻]

It's not a personal attack. It's an observation. I'm not calling names or being insulting. I'm just saying what I see, and it's just an opinion. I don't think that what I say will hurt your feelings anyway, why should you care? I certainly don't care that you think my tastes are boring, but then again, it sounds like you've already made up your mind about all of your tastes and it's not like I would be able to convince you otherwise. So I would never waste my time to try. If you don't like punk music, why spend all this time participating in a discussion about it? I just don't get it.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

When did I ever say that I did not like punk music? I actually do like a number of punk bands. Dead Kennedys, Sex Pistols, Ramones, Social Distortion, Black Flag, the Clash, the Jam (punk to some people), the Pogues (punk to others), Flogging Molly, and a number of other "punk" bands are all a part of my music collection.
 
     My simple premise was that  the period of punk that Kosmo initially referred to (1976-1985?) did not "matter" to a large number of Americans. Personally, I don't understand how that observation was worthy of the name calling that it elicited.
 
    And how often do you make the observation that other people are boring? Why single out me? Why not just go through every thread and tell people how boring they are? Surely you could have a field day.
 
 

Originally posted by bearman:
  It's not a personal attack. It's an observation. I'm not calling names or being insulting. I'm just saying what I see, and it's just an opinion. I don't think that what I say will hurt your feelings anyway, why should you care? I certainly don't care that you think my tastes are boring, but then again, it sounds like you've already made up your mind about all of your tastes and it's not like I would be able to convince you otherwise. So I would never waste my time to try. If you don't like punk music, why spend all this time participating in a discussion about it? I just don't get it.

[markie]

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[Herr Professor Doktor Doom]

Originally posted by Etan de Balzac, Footie Ball Player:
 
     My simple premise was that  the period of punk that Kosmo initially referred to (1976-1985?) did not "matter" to a large number of Americans. Personally, I don't understand how that observation was worthy of the name calling that it elicited.
 

Nobody said in this thread that punk mattered "to a large number of Americans."   The thread title mentions that "punk mattered."  Since this is a board, and a club, where alternative music, which has been heavily influenced by punk, play important roles, presumably it's simple enough to conclude that punk did matter.   It mattered in the evolution of the club itself, which presumably most people on the board care about to some degree or other.  You're trying to make an issue out of nothing.