Big Yawn is a Joke

[godsshoeshine]

i give this thread 7 zs. fantastic angst, but offers no solutions

[Celeste]

Originally posted by chaz:
 I write e-mails at work and occasionally even help out with a proposal or web document.  Guess that means I'm a professional writer too!

I write a newsletter, press releases, ad copy and other stuff, you ass. Get a grip.

[chaz]

Originally posted by Celeste:
   

Originally posted by chaz:
 I write e-mails at work and occasionally even help out with a proposal or web document.  Guess that means I'm a professional writer too!

I write a newsletter, you ass. Get a grip. [/b]

Sorry, kiddie.

[Random Citizen]

Originally posted by Celeste:
  Look, I did not post my comments to hurt anyone's feeling...I held back when I first saw the Ringenberg review, but this now was too much.
 

Certainly not hurting my feelings as I didn't write either of the reviews in question.
 
   

It's not a matter of *opinion*
 ...
 I wouldn't have been compelled to voice my opinion in this way...but, sadly, they were not.
 

So, which is it? If it's not a matter of opinion, then how can you voice your opinion?   :p  
 
 Again, you're going back and forth...first you're describing the writing based on the two reviews you listed above and then you're ragging the website in general...perhaps you should take your man's advice?
 
   

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
 
   If someone has a personal problem with a certain writer or editor, sure ot would make sense to email them personally about it.

[Herr Professor Doktor Doom]

I hate to find myself on the side of Rhett and Celeste on anything, but I must admit that the review she linked to came off as *awfully* pompous.   I don't frequent BigYawn so I'm not sure whether that's typical of them or not.

[markie]

Poor old Redsock....
 
 I get the feeling that Redsock is one of those guys who will one day become very rich and succesful through his eagerness and determination and maybe just a little dumb luck.. It is clear he has put a lot of effort into the website and in arranging shows.
 
 I dont think the owner of a media outlet should control every word either. If those are the opinions and thoughts of the reviewer so be it.
 
 If you have a differing viewpoint and are so burning to express it, it would seem clear to me also that you should start your own website or right your own reviews.

[Random Citizen]

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[Celeste]

Originally posted by Random Citizen:
 

So, which is it? If it's not a matter of opinion, then how can you voice your opinion? [/b]

You really are a feeble-minded little thing aren't you? My point was that my gripe is not with the writer's opinion of the albums, it is with their blazingly obvious lack of qualifications to write these reviews at all.
 
 Nobody here has offered any intelligent defense of these reviews or the site, or its tagline or rating system. You've just rallied around your pals and against people who are criticising you. That's commendable, sticking up for a friend, but kind of uninteresting and doesn't do much for the discourse on this board.

[Celeste]

Originally posted by Random Citizen:
 

Certainly not hurting my feelings as I didn't write either of the reviews in question. [/b]

hello? I was talking about redsock's feeling you fool...

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by Celeste:
   

Originally posted by chaz:
 I write e-mails at work and occasionally even help out with a proposal or web document.  Guess that means I'm a professional writer too!

I write a newsletter, press releases, ad copy and other stuff, you ass. Get a grip. [/b]

i think you are generalizing this whole site, just as the reviewer has generalized country music.   its the pot and the kettle, celeste.
 
  A music review is just an opinion.  some do it better than others, but i think the writers for BigYawn are learning, and they are not "professional" writers.
 
   i don't think any of my reviews or most of the other reviews claim a know-it-all attitude.  but even if they do...thats a review.  if all reviews were "well, i think the cd is good, but thats just my opinion, i dont really know if you'd like it" then reviews altogether would be pointless.
   reviewers are taught to proclaim that they have the knowledge to tell you if its good or not.
 
    all reviewers have to do it.  wishy-washy reviews are the worst, i am sure you agree.
 
     i dont write too many reviews anymore, because i dont even like reviews.  i dont read them, and i dont write them too much (ask redsock) but to say the whole site is a joke is just weak.
     
   and quite frankly, expected of you.  you never fail to disappoint in revealing what a miserable snooty bitch you really are.
 
    voicing your opinion is one thing, but doing it in a hurtful way in a forum that you KNOW has many of the writers on it, was done deliberately to be mean.  and dont deny it.
 
   redsock and others are just doing this as a hobby and are trying to get involved in the music they love. not trying to be purveyors of all knowledge.  
 
   you have a right to an opinion and a right to voice it, but this is just downright disrespectful to everyone involved in Bigyawn AND everyone in this forum. but i suppose you have the right to that too.  sad, really.

[ratioci nation]

oooooooooooh cat fight!
 
 sorry, thought the thread could use a sexist remark

[Herr Professor Doktor Doom]

Originally posted by Celeste:
 

OYou really are a feeble-minded little thing aren't you?  [/b]

ok, that's enough, you porky midget!

[Celeste]

this is all I am saying:
 
 you can't categorically brush a genre with such a condescending stroke and expect to be taken seriously...
 
 you can't call an artist that has been around for YEARS "this Ringenber guy" without showing that you have no background...
 
 here's a better review of the album that focuses on the content of the album, not the reviewers distaste for its genre
 
 http://www.popmatters.com/music/reviews/r/ringenbergjason-empire.shtml

[sonickteam2]

ok, now.  after reading the first review and "scanning through" the second.  I can make a couple points.
 
   1. out of ALL of the reviews, these 2 do NOT make or break BigYawn.
 
   furthermore, BigYawn is a site more for rock and indie-pop music, so a real country fan may never find this site.  therefore, they may actually be better off speaking like they dont know much about country.  someone namedropping every county album or reference in a review, may confuse me and leave me with no idea what the album may really sound like.
 
   also, the first review sounds like a rant. which may have its place, but maybe shouldn't be in the review category. it does lack detail and information and gets a little harsh.
 
   it even gets wishy washy at the end, after proclaiming quite a bit of knowledge.  
 
    the problem is that if all reviewers reviewed CDs from bands they loved and knew ALL about, there would be very few bad reviews.  but are we getting paid to review these? no. so how much research can we really do? do i have the time and resources to listen to a bands back catalogue and that of closely related bands before reviewing a CD?  nope.  
 
    i believe you may have a point in disagreeing with this review.  but it doesnt make me less disgusted about the way you went about it.
 
    you should be spit on.

[Celeste]

I'm not part of your little club, think of me as your real "random citizen" or a focus group of one...I really didn't know that SO MANY of you wrote reviews for Big Yawn, and you're right...I don't read all of them...oy vey...I'd probably really blow my stack...I didn't mean to "hurt feelings"...I am a bitch, but I like it that way...when it comes to writing and communicationa and going PUBLIC with them, I think it's helpful to hear some criticism...and the fact of life is you're going to hear it...think of how poor Jason would feel if he read that review! Oh wait, he'd dismiss it because of the many clues the writer left that he or she HAD no clue about the music. Just think, if the review writers had the depth and background and did not show their lack of intelligence so blatantly, we could give their reviews more creedence...