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redsock

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Re: Big Yawn is a Joke
« Reply #45 on: December 22, 2004, 01:31:00 pm »
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  I think there's a difference between criticism and calling a whole group of people "a club of second-rate wanna-bes."
We've been called worse...

sonickteam2

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Re: Big Yawn is a Joke
« Reply #46 on: December 22, 2004, 01:32:00 pm »
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Originally posted by HerrDoktorDoom:
  I think there's a difference between criticism and calling a whole group of people "a club of second-rate wanna-bes."
We've been called worse... [/b]
by better...

Herr Professor Doktor Doom

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Re: Big Yawn is a Joke
« Reply #47 on: December 22, 2004, 01:33:00 pm »
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 But it does increase our level of activity on the site! :-)
 
 
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redsock

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Re: Big Yawn is a Joke
« Reply #48 on: December 22, 2004, 01:33:00 pm »
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Originally posted by redsock:
  In a forum like this your message tends to quickly get potrayed as BigYawn is a Joke!
that was the title of the thread. [/b]
No shit Sherlock, that was my point. As opposed to, "Here are a few things I would like to see changed on BigYawn." Now that is a thread I am eager to read.

redsock

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Re: Big Yawn is a Joke
« Reply #49 on: December 22, 2004, 01:37:00 pm »
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Originally posted by HerrDoktorDoom:
  I think there's a difference between criticism and calling a whole group of people "a club of second-rate wanna-bes."
We've been called worse... [/b]
by better... [/b]
eh... I don't know, as much as you'd think Rhett and Celeste are the pits, that Dceiver fella is pretty much the sludge at the bottom of the human gene pool. At least they bathe.

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Re: Big Yawn is a Joke
« Reply #50 on: December 22, 2004, 01:40:00 pm »
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Re: Big Yawn is a Joke
« Reply #51 on: December 22, 2004, 02:24:00 pm »
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 Do I like all the CDs I receive? Nope and I like it that way. If I were to start gushing about every album, I'd hope that Redsock would change it up.
you're still missing the point, thumbelina, it's not about liking or not liking the music, it's about knowing your work, and for someone to be a solid reviewer, they ought to have some background...
 
 to those who would criticize how I chose to express my criticism, I'd say the media is the message...

sonickteam2

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Re: Big Yawn is a Joke
« Reply #52 on: December 22, 2004, 02:26:00 pm »
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 Do I like all the CDs I receive? Nope and I like it that way. If I were to start gushing about every album, I'd hope that Redsock would change it up.
you're still missing the point, thumbelina, it's not about liking or not liking the music, it's about knowing your work, and for someone to be a solid reviewer, they ought to have some background...
 
 to those who would criticize how I chose to express my criticism, I'd say the media is the message... [/b]
you can shut up now.

Random Citizen

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Re: Big Yawn is a Joke
« Reply #53 on: December 22, 2004, 02:30:00 pm »
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  you're still missing the point, thumbelina, it's not about liking or not liking the music, it's about knowing your work, and for someone to be a solid reviewer, they ought to have some background...
I disagree. The whole point about writing a review of an album is to say whether or not you, the reviewer, like the album. But then again, you wouldn't understand...
 
   
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  I don't purport to be the person expert enough or knowledgable enough to write good music reviews. I just know a well-written one or a badly-written one when I see one. And, furthermore, writing is part of what I do for a LIVING and I get PAID for it. I don't really care to do it for free in my spare time.

Re: Big Yawn is a Joke
« Reply #54 on: December 22, 2004, 02:32:00 pm »
Hey Redsock,
 
 Which artists and songs, specifically, are you referring to?
 
 
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 To the matter at hand. Celeste and Rhett (mostly Rhett) have never had good things to say about BY, and their criticism in and of itself means nothing to me. I personally think their taste in music is horrible, their favorite artists boring and many of the songs they love physically make me ill.  

Celeste

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Re: Big Yawn is a Joke
« Reply #55 on: December 22, 2004, 02:34:00 pm »
in order to make the reader GIVE A SHIT if YOU like the item being reviewed, you need to demonstrate some knowledge of what you're reviewing...
 
 you wouldn't ask a kid to review wine for example...you wouldn't ask a vegetarian to review a burger joint or a steak house...unless you were doing some kind of campy theme review...which, as I'm writing this, I'm thinking would be kind of cool...anyway, I doubt that's what was going on with these reviews on Big Yawn...

Celeste

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Re: Big Yawn is a Joke
« Reply #56 on: December 22, 2004, 02:35:00 pm »
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  you can shut up now.
why should I "shut up"? I don't want to dis BY any more, but I'm certainly not going to let some intellectual light weight completely miss the point...
 
 who tells people to "shut up" on a chat board?

Random Citizen

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Re: Big Yawn is a Joke
« Reply #57 on: December 22, 2004, 02:38:00 pm »
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  you wouldn't ask a kid to review wine for example...you wouldn't ask a vegetarian to review a burger joint or a steak house...unless you were doing some kind of campy theme review...which, as I'm writing this, I'm thinking would be kind of cool...anyway, I doubt that's what was going on with these reviews on Big Yawn...
Those analogies are flawed (or flawd) and I hope you realize that. If a kid hasn't tasted the wine, then no, I wouldn't respect their critique. However, if I've listened to an album 3-4 times (which I do for each review before writing), then I feel I have enough background to write a review of that particular album.

Celeste

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Re: Big Yawn is a Joke
« Reply #58 on: December 22, 2004, 02:49:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Random Citizen:
  if I've listened to an album 3-4 times (which I do for each review before writing), then I feel I have enough background to write a review of that particular album.
you feel that way...I'm glad you feel that way...but I would disagree and add that *feeling* or *thinking* you can write a review without a little depth of knowledge of the history of that artist or genre is what would yield reviews such as the ones I found so offensive...
 
 a review is--or should be--more than just opinion
 
 a good place to start would be to ask whether the artist was successful in achieving what they set out to do with the album if you don't know anything about the artist or the genre, you won't even ask the right questions

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Re: Big Yawn is a Joke
« Reply #59 on: December 22, 2004, 02:57:00 pm »
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 you can write a review without a little depth of knowledge of the history of that artist or genre is what would yield reviews such as the ones I found so offensive...
 
Hmm, sort of how this thread makes me feel.
 
 
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 a review is--or should be--more than just opinion
 
Again, I refer back to...
 
 
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  I don't purport to be the person expert enough or knowledgable enough to write good music reviews.
Meh, I'm bored. So here's another banana...
 
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