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freebird
« on: March 17, 2005, 02:31:00 pm »
its a bit messy with a lot of linkage but a decent article nonetheless exploring one of the great mysteries of our time
 
 Rock's Oldest Joke:
 Yelling 'Freebird!'
 In a Crowded Theater
 
 It's a Request, a Rebuke,
 A Cry From the Heart,
 A Tribute to Skynyrd
 
 By JASON FRY
 THE WALL STREET JOURNAL ONLINE
 March 17, 2005; Page A1
 
 One recent Tuesday night at New York's Bowery Ballroom, the Crimea had just finished its second song. The Welsh quintet's first song had gone over fairly well, the second less so, and singer/guitarist Davey MacManus looked out at the still-gathering crowd.
 
 Then, from somewhere in the darkness came the cry, "Freebird!"
 
 It made this night like so many other rock 'n' roll nights in America.
 
 
 
  THE FREEBIRD FILES
 
 
 
 
 
  "Freebird" has been a rallying cry for fans of Southern rock since the 1970s. This exchange <http://play.rbn.com/?dowjones/wsj/demand/wsj_vid/050315_ls_freebird.rm>  between Lynyrd Skynyrd's Ronnie Van Zant and an Atlanta audience introduces the version of "Freebird" from the 1976 live album "One More From the Road". That cut has been a radio mainstay since the album's release, likely inspiring many more shouts for "Freebird."
 
 Bands don't always welcome the request, though. Mike Doughty had a suggestion for audience members yelling for "Freebird," as captured in this clip <http://play.rbn.com/?dowjones/wsj/demand/wsj_vid/050315_md_freebird.rm>  from the 2002 album "Smofe + Smang: Live in Minneapolis."
 
 Billy Corgan of the Smashing Pumpkins tried to shame a "Freebird" heckler known as Ivan into changing his ways with this on-stage lecture <http://play.rbn.com/?dowjones/wsj/demand/wsj_vid/050315_sp_freebird.rm> , delivered during a 1993 show in Chicago. Note Ivan's proud self-identification as a KevHead.
 
 And in some cases, entertainers become slightly unhinged when they hear the song title, especially after Chicago DJ Kevin Matthews urged listeners to yell "Freebird." In this clip <http://play.rbn.com/?dowjones/wsj/demand/wsj_vid/050315_bh_freebird.rm> , from a Chicago show in the early 1990s, the late comedian Bill Hicks utters a string of expletives in response to an exuberant fan. If you're offended by profanity, don't click on it.
 
 Here are Web sites related to the artists mentioned in this article:
 
 Lynyrd Skynyrd
 (www.lynyrdskynyrd.com <http://www.lynyrdskynyrd.com/> )
 The Crimea
 (www.thecrimea.net)
 Dash Rip Rock
 (www.dashriprock.net <http://www.dashriprock.net/pages/1/index.htm> )
 Mike Doughty
 (www.superspecialquestions.com <http://www.superspecialquestions.com/> )
 Jewel
 (www.jeweljk.com <http://www.jeweljk.com/> )
 Hot Tuna
 (www.hottuna.com <http://www.hottuna.com/> )
 Modest Mouse
 (www.modestmousemusic.com <http://www.modestmousemusic.com/> )
 Bill Hicks
 (www.billhicks.com <http://www.billhicks.com/> )
 Kevin Matthews
 (www.kevhead.com <http://www.kevhead.com/> )
 Phish
 (www.phish.com <http://www.phish.com/> )
 The Dandy Warhols
 (www.dandywarhols.com <http://www.dandywarhols.com/> )
 
 -- Jason Fry
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 "Freebird" isn't the Crimea's song; it's from the 1973 debut album by legendary Southern rockers Lynyrd Skynyrd. The band's nine-minute march from ruminative piano to wailing guitar couldn't be less like the Crimea's jagged punk-pop. But it was requested nonetheless.
 
 Somebody is always yelling out the title. "I don't know that I've ever seen a show where it hasn't happened," says Bill Davis of the veteran country-punk band Dash Rip Rock.
 
 "It's just the most astonishing phenomenon," says Mike Doughty, the former front man of the "deep slacker jazz" band Soul Coughing, adding that "these kids, they can't be listening to Lynyrd Skynyrd."
 
 Yelling "Freebird!" has been a rock cliché for years, guaranteed to elicit laughs from drunks and scorn from music fans who have long since tired of the joke. And it has spread beyond music, prompting the Chicago White Sox organist to add the song to her repertoire and inspiring a greeting card in which a drunk holding a lighter hollers "Freebird!" at wedding musicians.
 
 Bands mostly just ignore the taunt. But one common retort is: "I've got your 'free bird' right here." That's accompanied by a middle finger. It's a strategy Dash Rip Rock's former bassist Ned Hickel used. According to fans' accounts of shows, so have Jewel and Hot Tuna's Jack Casady. Jewel declines to comment. Mr. Casady says that's "usually not my response to those kind of things."
 
 Others have offered more than the bird. On a recent live album, Modest Mouse's Isaac Brock declares that "if this were the Make-a-Wish Foundation, and you were going to die in 20 minutes -- just long enough to play 'Freebird' -- we still wouldn't play it." Dash Rip Rock often plays "Stairway to Freebird," a mash-up of the Skynyrd epic and Led Zeppelin's "Stairway to Heaven" that Mr. Davis boasts lasts "less than two minutes. ... You're finished before people get mad."
 
 A few years ago, Mr. Doughty started promoting the Weather Girls' "It's Raining Men" as the new "Freebird," asking audiences at his solo shows to call for the disco chestnut instead. Now, he says, he gets yells for both songs at every performance.
 
 A harsh reaction to "Freebird" came from the late comedian Bill Hicks during a Chicago gig in the early 1990s. On a bootleg recording of the show, Mr. Hicks at first just sounds irked. "Please stop yelling that," he says. "It's not funny, it's not clever -- it's stupid."
 
 The comic soon works himself into a rage, but the "Freebirds" keep coming. "Freebird," he finally says wearily, then intones: "And in the beginning there was the Word -- 'Freebird.' And 'Freebird' would be yelled throughout the centuries. 'Freebird,' the mantra of the moron."
 
 How did this strange ritual begin? "Freebird" is hardly obscure -- it's a radio staple consistently voted one of rock's greatest songs. One version -- and an important piece of the explanation -- anchors Skynyrd's 1976 live album "One More From the Road." On the record, singer Ronnie Van Zant, who was killed along with two other bandmates in a 1977 plane crash, asks the crowd, "What song is it you want to hear?" That unleashes a deafening call for "Freebird," and Skynyrd obliges with a 14-minute rendition.
 
 To understand the phenomenon, it also helps to be from Chicago. When asked why they continue to request "Freebird," Mr. Hicks's tormentors yell out "Kevin Matthews!"
 
 Kevin Matthews is a Chicago radio personality who has exhorted his fans -- the KevHeads -- to yell "Freebird" for years, and claims to have originated the tradition in the late 1980s, when he says he hit upon it as a way to torment Florence Henderson of "Brady Bunch" fame, who was giving a concert. He figured somebody should yell something at her "to break up the monotony." The longtime Skynyrd fan settled on "Freebird," saying the epic song "just popped into my head."
 
 Mr. Matthews says the call was heeded, inspiring him to go down the listings of coming area shows, looking for entertainers who deserved a "Freebird" and encouraging the KevHeads to make it happen.
 
 But he bemoans the decline of "Freebird" etiquette. "It was never meant to be yelled at a cool concert -- it was meant to be yelled at someone really lame," he says. "If you're going to yell 'Freebird,' yell 'Freebird' at a Jim Nabors concert."
 
 
 Lynyrd Skynyrd performing in New York City in April 1976.
 
 
 
 
 
 Still, Mr. Matthews treasures his trove of recorded "Freebird" moments -- such as baffled comedian Elayne Boosler wondering why the audience is shouting "reverb." And he argues that good bands simply acknowledge it and move on. "The people who are conceited, the so-called artists who get really offended by it, they deserve it," he says.
 
 But did "Freebird" truly start with the KevHeads? Longtime Chicago Tribune music writer Greg Kot says he remembers the cry from the early 1980s. He suggests it originated as an in-joke among indie-rock fans "having their sneer at mainstream classic rock."
 
 Other music veterans think it dates back to 1970s audiences' shouts for it and other guitar sagas, such as "Whipping Post," by the Allman Brothers Band, and "Smoke on the Water," by Deep Purple.
 
 They may all be right: It's possible "Freebird" began as a rallying cry for Skynyrd Nation and a sincere request from guitar lovers, was made famous by the live cut, taken up by ironic clubgoers, given new life by Mr. Matthews, and eventually lost all meaning and became something people holler when there's a band onstage.
 
 But as with many mysteries, the true origin may be unknowable -- cold comfort for bands still to be confronted with the inevitable cry from the darkness. For them, here's a strategy tried by a brave few: Call the audience's bluff. Phish liked to sing it a cappella. The Dandy Warhols play a slowed-down take singer Courtney Taylor-Taylor describes as sung "like T. Rex would if he were on a lot of pills." And Dash Rip Rock has performed the real song in order to surprise fans expecting the parody. For his part, Mr. Doughty suggests that musicians make a pact: Whenever anyone calls for "Freebird," play it in its entirety -- and if someone calls for it again, play it again.
 
 "That would put a stop to 'Freebird,' I think," he says. "It would be a bad couple of years, but it might be worth it."
 
 So what do the members of Skynyrd think of the tradition? Johnny Van Zant, Ronnie's brother and the band's singer since 1987, says "it's not an insult at all -- I think it's kind of cool. It's fun, and people are doing it in a fun way. That's what music's supposed to be about."
 
 Besides, Mr. Van Zant has a confession: His wife persuaded him to see Cher in Jacksonville a couple of years ago, and he couldn't resist yelling "Freebird!" himself. "My wife is going, 'Stop! Stop!' " he recalls, laughing. "I embarrassed the hell out of her."

Re: freebird
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2005, 02:37:00 pm »
Dude, you need to hit preview post before posting stuff.

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Re: freebird
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2005, 02:47:00 pm »
first time i heard the reguest must have been the mid 80's when i saw the True Believers... (for which brennser probably just thought you bastard)  it was actually quite clever seeing as the True Believers has a three guitar lineup at the time.
 
 everytime since then, no so funny...
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Re: freebird
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2005, 02:50:00 pm »
next time I'll send it to you so you can format it
 
 
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Re: freebird
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2005, 02:51:00 pm »
Built to Spill has been known to play it in its entirety when requested   :eek:    :eek:

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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2005, 02:51:00 pm »
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(for which brennser probably just thought you bastard)  
yep, pretty much!

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Re: freebird
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2005, 03:15:00 pm »
FREEBIRD was an incredibly popular tune when I was in high school.  I hated it then, but I don't mind it much...I kinda like it now.

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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2005, 03:47:00 pm »
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 Me, I was one of them pussy boys cuz i hated football, so i got a guitar but a guitar was a poor substitute for a football with the girls in my high school.  So my band hit the road, and we didn't play no Skynyrd, neither.  I came of age rebelling against the music in my high school parking lot.  It wasn't until years later after leaving the south for a while that I came to appreciate and understand the whole Skynyrd thing and its misunderstood glory.  

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Re: freebird
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2005, 06:04:00 pm »
I actually like the other Skynyrd hits better:
 
 That Smell
 Give Me 3 Steps
 and, of course, Sweet Home AL.
 
 I love the Leningrad Cowboys version.

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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2005, 06:51:00 pm »
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 Sweet Home AL.
 
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« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2005, 11:26:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Y. P. Blood:
  FREEBIRD was an incredibly popular tune when I was in high school.  I hated it then, but I don't mind it much...I kinda like it now.
I absolutely hated it then and still hate it just as much now.
 
 In fact, the damned song makes me sea sick because it sounds like it was recorded off-center giving it a sickly wavering sound.
 
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Re: freebird
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2005, 10:43:00 am »
Jeez did you guys see skynard on tv a few weeks ago?  I can't remember which awards show it was.  They played freebird and whichever mutant Van Zandt that was singing....good god he was just awful.  I think I really hate that band.  Budweiser & Bush......and trucks and florida....ughh.

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Re: freebird
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2005, 10:48:00 am »
that Chicago DJ is full of shit claiming to have originated the tradition... people were yelling that in DC at punk shows in the early 80s!
 
 the way to make it stop would be if bands start playing the full-length version every time someone yells that....
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« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2005, 10:56:00 am »
It was a damn shame that the Grammy's had a tribute to Southern Rock on and didn't include the Drive By Truckers.
 
 Even worse than the washed up version of Skynrd was the inclusion of Keith Urban, who's an Australian, for christsake.
 
 And I thought it was Gretchen Wilson who was putridly singing lead on Freebird, or did she do Sweet Home Alabama?
 
 
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  Jeez did you guys see skynard on tv a few weeks ago?  I can't remember which awards show it was.  They played freebird and whichever mutant Van Zandt that was singing....good god he was just awful.  I think I really hate that band.  Budweiser & Bush......and trucks and florida....ughh.

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« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2005, 11:00:00 am »
Well it seemed to be a duet with some tacky country lady and some hairy Van Zandt mutant.  
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  And I thought it was Gretchen Wilson who was putridly singing lead on Freebird, or did she do Sweet Home Alabama?
 
   
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  Jeez did you guys see skynard on tv a few weeks ago?  I can't remember which awards show it was.  They played freebird and whichever mutant Van Zandt that was singing....good god he was just awful.  I think I really hate that band.  Budweiser & Bush......and trucks and florida....ughh.
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