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Nader to run again?
« on: February 20, 2004, 04:38:00 pm »
Nader to Announce Decision on 2004 Bid    
 2 hours, 20 minutes ago  
 
 By SAM HANANEL, Associated Press Writer
 
 WASHINGTON - Ralph Nader (news - web sites) will announce Sunday whether he will make another run for the White House, but all signs indicate the consumer advocate plans to jump into the race as an independent.
 
 After weeks of postponing his decision, Nader will appear on NBC's "Meet the Press" to make the announcement, said Linda Schade, a spokeswoman for Nader's presidential exploratory committee.
 
 "He's going to be discussing his role in the presidential election," Schade said of the man whose run for president in 2000 is blamed by many Democrats for tilting a close election in favor of George W. Bush. "He's felt there is a role for an independent candidate to play."
 
 Schade declined to speculate on what the decision would be, but she said Nader would be available for interviews following the television appearance and planned to hold a press conference Monday morning to discuss his communications with the Democratic and Republican parties.
 
 Nader, who turns 70 next week, has said he would base his decision, in part, on whether Democratic and Republican officials respond to his agenda, which includes the need for universal health insurance, a more progressive wage policy and making dramatic reforms to the criminal justice system.
 
 Democratic National Committee (news - web sites) chairman Terry McAuliffe said he has met with Nader several times urging him not to run because he could pull votes away from the Democratic nominee.
 
 "I don't want Ralph Nader's legacy that he got George Bush for eight years in this country," McAuliffe said on CNN. "I'm urging everybody to talk to Ralph Nader. I'd love him to take a role with our party, to energize people, to get out there and get the message out."
 
 Nader decided in December not to seek the nomination of the Green Party, the insurgent political group he represented in 2000. Green Party officials said at the time they doubted Nader, running as an independent, would get on many state ballots without a party organization and so late in the political season.
 
 Schade said Nader has not begun the process of getting his name on state ballots, which requires garnering thousands of signatures.
 
 In spite of being described by some as a spoiler, Nader for months has been gauging support for another run through an Internet site and exploratory committee. On Thursday, he sent Web site subscribers an e-mail asking them for their thoughts on whether he should seek the presidency.
 
 Nader was on the ballot in nearly every state in 2000 and garnered 2.7 percent of the popular vote. In Florida and New Hampshire, Bush won such narrow victories that had Gore received the bulk of Nader's votes in those states, he would have won the general election.
 
 His impact on the 2000 race left some feeling bitter, and many former supporters are now urging him not to run. Two former Nader boosters in Colorado have founded a Web site called www.RepentantNaderVoter.com.
 
 In an interview late last year, Nader said one reason to run this year would be to "raise the civil liberties issue involving third parties and independent candidates generally." By December, Nader said he had raised about $100,000 to pay expenses for his exploratory phase.
 
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« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2004, 04:43:00 pm »
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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2004, 04:44:00 pm »
You just ruined my weekend.
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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2004, 04:46:00 pm »
Oh goodie....now Dean has pulled out I thought we weren't going to have an idiot until the presidential elections.

Re: Nader to run again?
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2004, 04:51:00 pm »
Sharpton is still in the running.
 
 
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  Oh goodie....now Dean has pulled out I thought we weren't going to have an idiot until the presidential elections.

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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2004, 04:59:00 pm »
Great, Ralph, give the Reps another leg up.  Shop your ideals, but stop running for frickin' president!  The message is *not* getting through because our dem candidates are all "almost republicans" and all your candidacy does is lose it for the chance for moderation....

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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2004, 05:03:00 pm »
Bags=rubber stamp democrat. I'd bet she'd vote for ANY Dem over ANY Rep, no matter who the candidate.

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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2004, 05:05:00 pm »
I voted Rep twice.
 
 I'm not rubber stamp, I'm liberal, which means I'm not likely to vote another party much.  Independents don't crop up much; I was too young to vote for John Anderson, though I loved him.

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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2004, 05:07:00 pm »
Speaking as a Nader voter in 2000 and 1996, I can say the Dems would not have recieved my vote in either of those election. The idiots who say Nader cost Gore the election are idiots. Do they also claim that Perot running won the election for Clinton? They should.
 
    That said, Nader has made his point and shouldn't run again.

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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2004, 05:11:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Rutherford J. Balls:
  vote for ANY Dem over ANY Rep, no matter who the candidate.
to me, that would always be an intelligent move.

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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2004, 05:11:00 pm »
What was the margin of difference in the '92 vote?  (I'm asking; I don't know.)  If you'll recall, the margin in the 2000 election was far less than the percentage of votes received by Nader.
 
 So, you'd vote for Bush?  Nader to Bush is a huge leap, or do you always vote for marginal candidates to make a statement?

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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2004, 05:16:00 pm »
I have voted Republican in certain cases at the state and local levels. I haven't voted Republican in a presidential election, and don't intend to this time either.
 
    How are Gore supporters so sure that Nader voters would have voted for Gore. The point was, they were disaffected, and saw Nader as the only option. If he weren't an option, probably most of them wouldn't have voted at all.

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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2004, 05:23:00 pm »
Clinton: 43.3%
 Bush: 37.7%
 Perot: 19.0%
 
 Based on those figures, I'll bet Perot's candidacy was much more destructive to Bush than Nader's piddly numbers were to Gore.
 
 
 
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  What was the margin of difference in the '92 vote?  (I'm asking; I don't know.)  

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« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2004, 05:24:00 pm »
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  to me, that would always be an intelligent move.
uhhhhh, no, not at all, there are some pretty bad southern democrats

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« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2004, 05:24:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Bags:
  What was the margin of difference in the '92 vote?  (I'm asking; I don't know.)
Clinton - 43.0%
 Bush - 37.4%
 Perot - 18.9%