Dangerous Places, man

[sonickteam2]

i know this was posted in a baseball forum, but really, whos reading baseball forums anymore.
 
   the good news, Baltimore moves from 6th to 12th!!
 
   and can you believe NYC???  
 
  artickle
 St. Louis ranked most dangerous city
 Updated 10/30/2006 12:17 PM ET
 
 
 By Christopher Leonard, Associated Press
 ST. LOUIS â?? Just days after the St. Louis Cardinals won the top honor in Major League Baseball, their hometown jumped to first place on a list no one wants to lead: the most dangerous cities in the United States.
 This Midwestern city has long been in the upper tiers of the annual ranking of the nation's safest and most dangerous cities, compiled by Morgan Quitno Press. Violent crime surged nearly 20% there from 2004 to last year, when the rate of such crimes rose much faster in the Midwest than in the rest of nation, according to FBI figures released in June.
 
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 "It's just sad the way this city is," resident Sam Dawson said. "On the news you hear killings, someone's been shot."
 
 The ranking, being released Monday, came as the city was still celebrating Friday's World Series victory at the new Busch Stadium. St. Louis has been spending millions of dollars on urban renewal even as the crime rate climbs.
 
 Mayor Francis Slay did not return calls to his office seeking comment Sunday.
 
 Scott Morgan, president of Morgan Quitno Press, a private research and publishing company specializing in state and city reference books, said he was not surprised to see St. Louis top the list, since it has been among the 10 most dangerous cities for years.
 
 Morgan said the study looks at crime only within St. Louis city limits, with a population of about 330,000. It doesn't take into account the suburbs in St. Louis County, which has roughly 980,000 residents.
 
 The safest city in 2005 was Brick, N.J., population about 78,000, followed by Amherst, N.Y., and Mission Viejo, Calif. The second most dangerous city was Detroit, followed by Flint, Mich., and Compton, Calif.
 
 Cities are ranked based on more than just their crime rate, Morgan said. Individual crimes such as rape or burglary are measured separately, compared to national averages and then compiled to give a city its ranking. Crimes are weighted based on their danger to people.
 
 The national FBI figures released in June showed the murder rate in St. Louis jumped 16% from 2004 to 2005, compared with 4.8% nationally. The overall violent crime rate increased nearly 20%, compared with 2.5% nationally.
 
 While crime increased in all regions last year, the 5.7% rise in the 12 Midwestern states was at least three times higher than any other region, according to the FBI.
 
 Visiting St. Louis on Thursday, FBI director Robert Mueller said it was too early to tell why some types of crime were rising faster in the Midwest.
 
 Mueller said the FBI is working harder to form partnerships with police departments to launch programs like St. Louis' Safe Streets task force, which focuses police efforts on problematic neighborhoods.
 
 This year's ranking was good news for Camden, N.J., which in 2005 was named the most dangerous city for the second year in a row.
 
 Camden Mayor Gwendolyn Faison said Sunday she was thrilled to learn that her city no longer topped the most-dangerous list.
 
 "You made my day!" said Faison, who has served since 2000. "There's a new hope and a new spirit."
 
 Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
 Posted 10/30/2006 12:17 AM ET

[sonickteam2]

heres the entire city list, for some reason, 1. is the safest and St Louis is the most dangerous (or dangerousest as i like to say)
 
 A list of the safest and most dangerous cities overall, as compiled by Morgan Quitno Press, which bases the rankings on FBI figures released in June. The list starts with the safest cities and ends with the most dangerous. Only cities that reported crime rates were included in the list. For example, New Orleans was not included this year because its police department did not report figures.
 
 List of Cities
 
 1. Brick, N.J.
 2. Amherst, N.Y.
 3. Mission Viejo, Calif.
 4. Newton, Mass.
 5. Troy, Mich.
 6. Colonie, N.Y.
 7. Irvine, Calif.
 8. Cary, N.C.
 9. Greece, N.Y.
 10. Coral Springs, Fla.
 11. Thousand Oaks, Calif.
 12. Orem, Utah
 13. Round Rock, Texas
 14. Dover, N.J.
 15. Lake Forest, Calif.
 16. Sterling Heights, Mich.
 17. Simi Valley, Calif.
 18. Roswell, Ga.
 19. Lee's Summit, Mo.
 20. Broken Arrow, Okla.
 21. Chino Hills, Calif.
 22. Gilbert, Ariz.
 23. Edison, N.J.
 24. Cranston, R.I.
 25. Port St. Lucie, Fla.
 26. Sandy, Utah
 27. Nashua, N.H.
 28. Danbury, Conn.
 29. Huntington Beach, Calif.
 30. Orange, Calif.
 31. Hamilton, N.J.
 32. Parma, Ohio
 33. Overland Park, Kan.
 34. Santa Clarita, Calif.
 35. Stamford, Conn.
 36. Cheektowaga, N.Y.
 37. Livonia, Mich.
 38. Sunnyvale, Calif.
 39. Murrieta, Calif.
 40. Canton, Mich.
 41. Plano, Texas
 42. Warwick, R.I.
 43. Torrance, Calif.
 44. Clifton, N.J.
 44. Newport Beach, Calif.
 46. Woodbridge, N.J.
 47. Fargo, N.D.
 48. Norman, Okla.
 49. Olathe, Kan.
 50. Boca Raton, Fla.
 51. Livermore, Calif.
 52. Centennial, Colo.
 53. Fremont, Calif.
 54. Clinton, Mich.
 55. Vacaville, Calif.
 56. Tracy, Calif.
 57. Bellevue, Wash.
 58. Carlsbad, Calif.
 59. Pembroke Pines, Fla.
 60. Farmington Hills, Mich.
 61. Richardson, Texas
 62. Rancho Cucamon., Calif.
 63. Boulder, Colo.
 64. McKinney, Texas
 65. Rochester, Minn.
 66. Beaverton, Ore.
 67. Santa Clara, Calif.
 68. Daly City, Calif.
 69. Lewisville, Texas
 70. Napa, Calif.
 71. Burbank, Calif.
 72. Arvada, Colo.
 73. Alexandria, Va.
 74. Virginia Beach, Va.
 75. Ann Arbor, Mich.
 76. Quincy, Mass.
 77. Glendale, Calif.
 78. Ventura, Calif.
 79. Provo, Utah
 80. Fullerton, Calif.
 81. Lawrence, Kan.
 82. Scottsdale, Ariz.
 83. Carrollton, Texas
 84. Hillsboro, Ore.
 85. Somerville, Mass.
 86. Kenosha, Wis.
 87. Davie, Fla.
 88. Chino, Calif.
 89. Sunrise, Fla.
 90. Cape Coral, Fla.
 91. Henderson, Nev.
 92. Billings, Mont.
 93. Cedar Rapids, Iowa
 94. Plantation, Fla.
 95. Costa Mesa, Calif.
 96. San Mateo, Calif.
 97. Garland, Texas
 98. Madison, Wis.
 99. Corona, Calif.
 100. Clovis, Calif.
 101. Yonkers, N.Y.
 102. Alhambra, Calif.
 103. Buena Park, Calif.
 104. Odessa, Texas
 105. Chandler, Ariz.
 106. Norwalk, Conn.
 107. Upper Darby, Pa.
 108. Peoria, Ariz.
 109. Westminster, Calif.
 110. Roseville, Calif.
 111. Lakewood, Calif.
 112. San Jose, Calif.
 113. Honolulu, Hawaii
 114. El Paso, Texas
 115. Santa Barbara, Calif.
 116. Temecula, Calif.
 117. Cambridge, Mass.
 118. Pasadena, Texas
 119. Brownsville, Texas
 120. Boise, Idaho
 121. Garden Grove, Calif.
 122. Mesquite, Texas
 123. Westminster, Colo.
 124. Manchester, N.H.
 125. Whittier, Calif.
 126. Westland, Mich.
 127. McAllen, Texas
 128. Lincoln, Neb.
 129. Pasadena, Calif.
 130. Columbia, Mo.
 131. Midland, Texas
 132. Chesapeake, Va.
 133. Santa Rosa, Calif.
 134. Spokane Valley, Wash.
 135. Anaheim, Calif.
 136. Athens-Clarke, Ga.
 137. Green Bay, Wis.
 138. Irving, Texas
 139. Fort Collins, Colo.
 140. Escondido, Calif.
 141. Miramar, Fla.
 142. Concord, Calif.
 143. West Covina, Calif.
 144. Hampton, Va.
 145. New York City
 146. Denton, Texas
 147. Palm Bay, Fla.
 148. Sioux City, Iowa
 149. Sioux Falls, S.D.
 150. Thornton, Colo.
 151. Salem, Ore.
 152. Hialeah, Fla.
 153. Baldwin Park, Calif.
 154. Erie, Pa.
 155. San Angelo, Texas
 156. Oxnard, Calif.
 157. Oceanside, Calif.
 158. Austin, Texas
 159. Evansville, Ind.
 160. Lakeland, Fla.
 161. Laredo, Texas
 162. Raleigh, N.C.
 163. El Monte, Calif.
 164. Waterbury, Conn.
 165. Vista, Calif.
 166. Murfreesboro, Tenn.
 167. Fontana, Calif.
 168. Grand Prairie, Texas
 169. Fort Wayne, Ind.
 170. Santa Ana, Calif.
 171. Santa Monica, Calif.
 172. Lexington, Ky.
 173. Colorado Springs, Colo.
 174. Suffolk, Va.
 175. Hollywood, Fla.
 176. Eugene, Ore.
 177. Norwalk, Calif.
 178. Santa Maria, Calif.
 179. Downey, Calif.
 180. Abilene, Texas
 181. Chula Vista, Calif.
 182. Ogden, Utah
 183. Melbourne, Fla.
 184. Clarksville, Tenn.
 185. Sparks, Nev.
 186. San Diego, Calif.
 187. Carson, Calif.
 188. Vancouver, Wash.
 189. Greeley, Colo.
 190. Springfield, Mo.
 191. Mesa, Ariz.
 192. Moreno Valley, Calif.
 193. Tyler, Texas
 194. Dearborn, Mich.
 195. Des Moines, Iowa
 196. Lowell, Mass.
 197. San Antonio
 198. Corpus Christi, Texas
 199. El Cajon, Calif.
 200. Salinas, Calif.
 201. Fairfield, Calif.
 202. Lakewood, Colo.
 203. Redding, Calif.
 204. Ontario, Calif.
 205. South Gate, Calif.
 206. Topeka, Kan.
 207. Arlington, Texas
 208. Lawton, Okla.
 209. Riverside, Calif.
 210. Antioch, Calif.
 211. Long Beach, Calif.
 212. Anchorage, Alaska
 213. West Valley, Utah
 214. Hawthorne, Calif.
 215. Yuma, Ariz.
 216. Louisville, Ky.
 217. Omaha, Neb.
 218. Clearwater, Fla.
 219. Independence, Mo.
 220. Spokane, Wash.
 221. Reno, Nev.
 222. Grand Rapids, Mich.
 223. Pueblo, Colo.
 224. Hayward, Calif.
 225. Tuscaloosa, Ala.
 226. Berkeley, Calif.
 227. Las Cruces, N.M.
 228. Mobile, Ala.
 229. Worcester, Mass.
 230. Palmdale, Calif.
 231. Modesto, Calif.
 232. Wichita Falls, Texas
 233. Lubbock, Texas
 234. San Leandro, Calif.
 235. Amarillo, Texas
 236. Bakersfield, Calif.
 237. Columbus, Ga.
 238. Gainesville, Fla.
 239. Gresham, Ore.
 240. Charleston, S.C.
 241. Tempe, Ariz.
 242. Lynn, Mass.
 243. Lafayette, La.
 244. Newport News, Va.
 245. High Point, N.C.
 246. Fort Worth, Texas
 247. Salt Lake City, Utah
 248. Jacksonville, Fla.
 249. Portland, Ore.
 250. Los Angeles
 251. Victorville, Calif.
 252. Bellflower, Calif.
 253. Glendale, Ariz.
 254. New Bedford, Mass.
 255. Pomona, Calif.
 256. Racine, Wis.
 257. Aurora, Colo.
 258. Elizabeth, N.J.
 259. Rialto, Calif.
 260. Savannah, Ga.
 261. Paterson, N.J.
 262. Seattle
 263. Albany, Ga.
 264. Southfield, Mich.
 265. Lancaster, Calif.
 266. Waco, Texas
 267. Fresno, Calif.
 268. Killeen, Texas
 269. Greensboro, N.C.
 270. San Francisco
 271. Fort Lauderdale, Fla.
 272. Durham, N.C.
 273. Fort Smith, Ark.
 274. Tallahassee, Fla.
 275. South Bend, Ind.
 276. Lansing, Mich.
 277. Federal Way, Wash.
 278. Huntsville, Ala.
 279. Albuquerque, N.M.
 280. Visalia, Calif.
 281. Winston-Salem, N.C.
 282. Providence, R.I.
 283. Everett, Wash.
 284. Davenport, Iowa
 285. Hammond, Ind.
 286. Roanoke, Va.
 287. Norfolk, Va.
 288. Fayetteville, N.C.
 289. Kent, Wash.
 290. Akron, Ohio
 291. St. Paul, Minn.
 292. Wilmington, N.C.
 293. Portsmouth, Va.
 294. Oklahoma City
 295. Columbia, S.C.
 296. Canton, Ohio
 297. Knoxville, Tenn.
 298. Montgomery, Ala.
 299. Allentown, Pa.
 300. North Las Vegas, Nev.
 301. Beaumont, Texas
 302. Las Vegas, Nev.
 303. Denver
 304. Yakima, Wash.
 305. Syracuse, N.Y.
 306. Longview, Texas
 307. Pittsburgh
 308. Tucson, Ariz.
 309. Bridgeport, Conn.
 310. Inglewood, Calif.
 311. Pompano Beach, Fla.
 312. Albany, N.Y.
 313. Phoenix
 314. Boston
 315. Chattanooga, Tenn.
 316. Tampa, Fla.
 317. Jersey City, N.J.
 318. Milwaukee
 319. Miami Beach, Fla.
 320. Indianapolis, Ind.
 321. Shreveport, La.
 322. Sacramento, Calif.
 323. St. Petersburg, Fla.
 324. Tacoma, Wash.
 325. Houston
 326. Columbus, Ohio
 327. Miami
 328. Baton Rouge, La.
 329. Charlotte, N.C.
 330. Jackson, Miss.
 331. Toledo, Ohio
 332. Macon, Ga.
 333. Nashville, Tenn.
 334. Rochester, N.Y.
 335. Tulsa, Okla.
 336. Stockton, Calif.
 337. Hartford, Conn.
 338. Dallas
 339. Miami Gardens, Fla.
 340. Buffalo, N.Y.
 341. Springfield, Mass.
 342. Kansas City, Kan.
 343. Philadelphia
 344. West Palm Beach, Fla.
 345. Minneapolis
 346. Dayton, Ohio
 347. Orlando, Fla.
 348. San Bernardino, Calif.
 349. Little Rock, Ark.
 350. Newark, N.J.
 351. Reading, Pa.
 352. North Charleston, S.C.
 353. Washington
 354. Cincinnati
 355. Atlanta
 356. Kansas City, Mo.
 357. Richmond, Va.
 358. Trenton, N.J.
 359. Memphis, Tenn.
 360. Baltimore
 361. Richmond, Calif.
 362. Gary, Ind.
 363. Youngstown, Ohio
 364. Oakland, Calif.
 365. Cleveland
 366. Birmingham, Ala.
 367. Camden, N.J.
 368. Compton, Calif.
 369. Flint, Mich.
 370. Detroit
 371. St. Louis

[terry]

Oh, so according to this list, St. Louis isn't the most dangerous city, it's the 371st safest place to live. That's very different.
 
 It's all about the spin.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by terry:
  Oh, so according to this list, St. Louis isn't the most dangerous city, it's the 371st safest place to live. That's very different.
 
 It's all about the spin.

definitely!  
 
 its like the new "sudden victory" games in college sports these days.

[vansmack]

Originally posted by le sonick:
 
 List of Cities
 3. Mission Viejo, Calif.
 7. Irvine, Calif.
 15. Lake Forest, Calif.
 29. Huntington Beach, Calif.
 30. Orange, Calif.
 44. Newport Beach, Calif.
 80. Fullerton, Calif.
 95. Costa Mesa, Calif.
 103. Buena Park, Calif.
 109. Westminster, Calif.
 121. Garden Grove, Calif.
 135. Anaheim, Calif.
 
 170. Santa Ana, Calif.
 

Other than Santa Ana, looks like The OC is pretty safe.  Speaking of which, 3 days!

[Vas Deferens]

from www.gothamist.com
 
 The NYPD may be slashing its work force, but the FBI announced that NYC is once again the safest big city, while crime is rising in other cities across the country. Some stats for 2005: Overall crime dropped 4.3%, versus a 1.1% drop across the country, and violent crime fell 1.9% in NYC, versus a 2.5% increase in the country. But officials didn't want to make any promises about "lowest murder rate ever," as the murder rate seems to be creeping up slightly (though it'll still be near historical lows).  
 
 

Originally posted by le sonick:
 
 
   and can you believe NYC???  
 
   

Brick, NJ has an autism cluster.

[MindCage]

How ironic after someone got shot at 10pm on Saturday night on U St between 13th and 14th. Some things will never change no matter how expensive of a place you buy in the area.  
 
 MindCage
 Mindless Faith
 Deep6 Productions

[Jaguar]

Concerning Baltimore, what is not mentioned; and probably not known by most others outside of the area; is that Marty O'Moron has strong armed the police department into not reporting crimes. (Yes, this has been documented and no I do not have the internet link but I'm sure you can google it yourself.)
 
 The police are quitting in droves, partly because of this and other crap. There have been tons and tons of on and off the record reports by police officers, victims and witnesses of out and out crimes being totally ignored or misrepresented all for the sake of making Marty look good in the numbers for the sake of the election. And no, I'm not an Erlich fan by any stretch of the imagination but I fear O'Moron the mobster even more.
 
 There have been incidents where people were murdered by being stabbed in the back and they were written up as suicides and the like. All kinds of nasty goings on like this. I can't remember a lot of what I've heard and read but this is the kind of stuff that I saw going on everyday in the Baltimore Shitty School system. A pure numbers game to make things appear one way where in fact the truth was a whole different reality.
 
 Another thing that the police department did was destroy a whole lot of documents. Yes, that is illegal but they did it anyway. Their excuse, they didn't have enough file folders!    :roll:  
 
 Can't help but believe that poor St. Louis just told the truth while some of the others played the fudging numbers game.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by Jaguar:
 
 Can't help but believe that poor St. Louis just told the truth while some of the others played the fudging numbers game.

yeah, jag, tomorrow study will find that while St. Louis also America's Most Honest City
 
    :roll:   <---for you!
 
 and dont call our future governor "moron" either!

[sonickteam2]

on a side note, a little white girl from frederick i work with had a similar opinion of O' Malley fudging numbers and the city isnt any safer now than it has been.
   
 as she drove off with her Ehrlich sticker to her new home across the street from the Hippodrome!!
 
   made me giggle.

[Jaguar]

Originally posted by le sonick:
 
 and dont call our future governor "moron" either!

Then there must be 2 'morons' in Baltimore Shitty. One at City Hall and another a deported Canadian. What a shame, as I had thought that you had brought some brains down with you.
 
 It would serve you well to do some real research on the dirty and even evil things that man has been up to.
 
 I've seen Baltimore City government from the inside for many years and I can tell you that man is a mobster, along with most of the City Council, especially the City Council President.
 
 You really need to do some real research and not just showing up to some dumbass O'Moron fake Irish gig.
 
 And if you think I'm saying any of this to promote Erlich, you are sadly mistaken since I think he's nothing but a shill for the Bush Administration; hence, the evil side of the NWO. In my opinion, no matter who wins next week, all of Maryland loses.

[nkotb]

Originally posted by Jaguar:
 hence, the evil side of the NWO. In my opinion, no matter who wins next week, all of Maryland loses.

Hollywood would get my vote anyday.
   <img src="http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/c/c6/180px-NWo.jpg" alt=" - " />

Erlich my balls.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by Jaguar:
   

Originally posted by le sonick:
 
 and dont call our future governor "moron" either!

Then there must be 2 'morons' in Baltimore Shitty. One at City Hall and another a deported Canadian. What a shame, as I had thought that you had brought some brains down with you.
  [/b]

now you're calling me a moron?  i think YOU are the one whos sadly mistaken.
 
   all i said  was that Baltimore wasnt the ONLY city to phony up crime numbers. and i implied O Malley was going to win the election.
 
   i didnt once imply that you were voting for ehrlich OR that i liked o malley or that i didnt think he was a shifty politician.
 
   you, my friend...or actually not my friend at all since you called me a moron for no reason, need to gain some reading comprehension skills before you start name calling.