Non-smoking shows

[Jaguar]

Originally posted by Joe M.:
  I think people that smoke inside clubs are f-king selfish. I'm glad about the ban...wish it happened sooner.

I absolutely agree! In fact, based on all of the complaints about the smoke at Sonar, I've intentionally stayed away. There have been too many occassions where I've thrown my guts up the next morning from being around smokers, including at the 9:30 Club which is a bit cleaner than some other venues.
 
 It kills me how it seems that only the rights and money of the smokers are generally taken into consideration. It's time that we non-smokers get a little recognition and respect.

[distance]

when you walk from the floor area of the main stage area and step UP into the bathroom, your head passes through the floating cloud of smoke haze... like a rocky, snow-capped mountaintop peaking through the clouds.

[thingsfallapart]

Originally posted by vansmack:
   

Originally posted by thingsfallapart:
  I think artists who request non-smoking shows are pretty lame though.  They should get over themselves.

I think people who can't go an hour or two without a cigarette are pretty lame. They should get over their addiction. [/b]

I don't actually smoke, but I still support people's right to smoke in a rock club.

[HoyaSaxa03]

Originally posted by thingsfallapart:
 I don't actually smoke, but I still support people's right to smoke in a rock club.

<img src="http://www.punknews.org/images/bands/replacements.jpg" alt=" - " />

[Jaguar]

Originally posted by thingsfallapart:
   

Originally posted by vansmack:
     

Originally posted by thingsfallapart:
  I think artists who request non-smoking shows are pretty lame though.  They should get over themselves.

I think people who can't go an hour or two without a cigarette are pretty lame. They should get over their addiction. [/b]

I don't actually smoke, but I still support people's right to smoke in a rock club. [/b]

Not me! I support people's right to breath without being forced to deal with others' addictions. Again, for something like a show where you can't take the show with you if you choose to move on, it should be the addicted who make the choice to leave or not attend. Not those who can't or don't want to tolerate a roomful of smoke. You can leave a bar and select another but for a concert, you don't have that option.
 
 In fact, I might even be able to compromise that bars or clubs without entertainment, smoking if the owner chooses. Bars or clubs with entertainment, no smoking; at least, before and during shows.

[vansmack]

Originally posted by thingsfallapart:
  I don't actually smoke, but I still support people's right to smoke in a rock club.

Do you often make up rights that don't exist in any codified form anywhere?

[HoyaSaxa03]

jaguar, any rational person definitely understands your complaints, being allergic to smoke would really suck
 
 i think thingsfallaparts' comments were just tied to the fact that we're talking about a RAWK club, not a bridge party ... booze, cigarettes, and a general fuck-all attitude are pretty intricately tied up in RAWKing

[HoyaSaxa03]

Originally posted by vansmack:
 Do you often make up rights that don't exist in any codified form anywhere?

the good people at RJ Reynolds have conveniently codified our rights!
 
 https://mysmokersrights.rjrt.com/

[vansmack]

Originally posted by Maf54:
  the good people at RJ Reynolds have conveniently codified our rights!
 
   https://mysmokersrights.rjrt.com/  

Unless they've changed the Constitution without me noticing, there is nothing on that web site that will convince me that there is a right to smoke in any public place (and I adimantly refuse to sign up for that web site, but feel free to share with me any of the pearls of wisdom brought to you by the good people at RJ Reynolds).

[Jaguar]

Originally posted by Maf54:
  jaguar, any rational person definitely understands your complaints, being allergic to smoke would really suck
 
 i think thingsfallaparts' comments were just tied to the fact that we're talking about a RAWK club, not a bridge party ... booze, cigarettes, and a general fuck-all attitude are pretty intricately tied up in RAWKing

And so is toking up at a concert. When you are allowed to pass me that joint at the 9:30 Club, maybe I'll concede my arguement. Maybe.

[HoyaSaxa03]

Originally posted by vansmack:
 Unless they've changed the Constitution without me noticing, there is nothing on that web site that will convince me that there is a right to smoke in any public place

a motivated libertarian may argue otherwise ... unfortunately, i'm neither motivated nor a libertarian

[HoyaSaxa03]

Jesus rides beside me
 He never buys any smokes
 Hurry up, hurry up, ain't you had enough of this stuff
 Ashtray floors, dirty clothes, and filthy jokes

[RatBastard]

Originally posted by Maf54:
   

Originally posted by thingsfallapart:
 I don't actually smoke, but I still support people's right to smoke in a rock club.

<img src="http://www.punknews.org/images/bands/replacements.jpg" alt=" - " /> [/b]

There is no 'right' to smoke.

[HoyaSaxa03]

Originally posted by RatBastard:
  There is no 'right' to smoke.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion ... man
 
  <img src="http://cuboidal.org/movies/scenes/biglebowski/images/3-dudeoncouch.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 one could definitely make a constitutional argument for it, whether it would be accepted (doubtful) is up to a judge, but it wouldn't be much more tenuous than the "penumbra" of implied privacy rights that courts have found

[RatBastard]

Originally posted by HoyaSaxa08:
   

Originally posted by RatBastard:
  There is no 'right' to smoke.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion ... man
 
   <img src="http://cuboidal.org/movies/scenes/biglebowski/images/3-dudeoncouch.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 one could definitely make a constitutional argument for it, whether it would be accepted (doubtful) is up to a judge, but it wouldn't be much more tenuous than the "penumbra" of implied privacy rights that courts have found [/b]

Its a fact.