DC Area Voters

[Frank Gallagher]

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  Kind of like Silda Spritzer?
 
   

Originally posted by manimtired:
  he has too much of a history with his pastor to simply "throw him overboard" at this point.

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No, that's a case of 'it's cheaper to keep her'
 
 But...if you want juicy political scandal, this one is tough to beat, and she's not bad for a politicians wife...better than your usual frumpy lard-arsed old wagon.
 
 http://gawker.com/5003912/new-jersey-governor-threesome-one+ups-spitzer

[Bags]

Originally posted by manimtired:
   

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  The American economy is in free fall, and all anyone cares about is what some religious nut says about race. I'll bet Bush's pastor told some crock and bull story about Jesus dying on the cross and rising up to heaven. Why weren't people up in arms about that?

edgy [/b]

Worse.  GW's pastor was telling the story about the dawn of man, 6000 years ago.
 
 But he can't be a crackpot -- there's a museum in Kentucky that shows early man swimming in a lake with dinosaurs!!

[BookerT]

as with everything, this is blown a bit out of proporation as the never-ending primary continues to devolve into the current game of "find people associated with the candidates who say different levels incedniary things and make it into a story" becomes the norm. this holds more weight because obama's lack of any real record to run on makes his associations all the more relevant, but it's still not something i can get too riled up about and after avoiding it as long as he could avoid it he addressed it pretty well in his usual "these aren't the droids you're looking for" sort of way.
 
 but i'm not your average voter and y'all are crazy if you think this isn't going to be a FUCKING HUGE problem for him in the general election. hillary's mumbo jumbo about her already being vetted and him not being vetted actually looks a bit more prescient right now.

[Sage 703]

Originally posted by BookerT:
  as with everything, this is blown a bit out of proporation as the never-ending primary continues to devolve into the current game of "find people associated with the candidates who say different levels incedniary things and make it into a story" becomes the norm. this holds more weight because obama's lack of any real record to run on makes his associations all the more relevant, but it's still not something i can get too riled up about and after avoiding it as long as he could avoid it he addressed it pretty well in his usual "these aren't the droids you're looking for" sort of way.
 
 but i'm not your average voter and y'all are crazy if you think this isn't going to be a FUCKING HUGE problem for him in the general election. hillary's mumbo jumbo about her already being vetted and him not being vetted actually looks a bit more prescient right now.

But this is part of why this speech is so brilliant.  He's recast the discussion.  Hillary Clinton and John McCain are now both forced to discuss race on this level - and do we honestly think either of them can do that?

[Frank Gallagher]

Originally posted by callat703:
   

Originally posted by BookerT:
  but i'm not your average voter and y'all are crazy if you think this isn't going to be a FUCKING HUGE problem for him in the general election. hillary's mumbo jumbo about her already being vetted and him not being vetted actually looks a bit more prescient right now.

But this is part of why this speech is so brilliant.  He's recast the discussion.  Hillary Clinton and John McCain are now both forced to discuss race on this level - and do we honestly think either of them can do that? [/b]

If they're smart they won't say a word. What is there to discuss? He didn't say anything earth-shattering or life changing.
 
 and Booker is spot on...if Obama ends up as the democrat candidate then the dems are fucked, because the republicans will crucify him over this issue.
 
 Game, set and match to McCain unless Hillary can pull some miracle between now and November.

[Sage 703]

Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
   

Originally posted by callat703:
   

Originally posted by BookerT:
  but i'm not your average voter and y'all are crazy if you think this isn't going to be a FUCKING HUGE problem for him in the general election. hillary's mumbo jumbo about her already being vetted and him not being vetted actually looks a bit more prescient right now.

But this is part of why this speech is so brilliant.  He's recast the discussion.  Hillary Clinton and John McCain are now both forced to discuss race on this level - and do we honestly think either of them can do that? [/b]

If they're smart they won't say a word. What is there to discuss? He didn't say anything earth-shattering or life changing.
 
 and Booker is spot on...if Obama ends up as the democrat candidate then the dems are fucked, because the republicans will crucify him over this issue.
 
 Game, set and match to McCain unless Hillary can pull some miracle between now and November. [/b]

I think you're wrong.  It is largely going to depend on the media coverage of today's speech from this point forward, but I think they won't have a choice as to whether or not to talk about it.  You don't think this becomes a question in any debate from this point forward?  Obama can get on the stump from this point on and incorporate this discussion in his platform.

[Venerable Bede]

Originally posted by callat703:
  I think you're wrong.  It is largely going to depend on the media coverage of today's speech from this point forward, but I think they won't have a choice as to whether or not to talk about it.  You don't think this becomes a question in any debate from this point forward?  Obama can get on the stump from this point on and incorporate this discussion in his platform.

i had been trying to avoid this, but. . .i think this is only an issue in the democratic party.  because the race-baiters have been so vocal over these past years, republicans either don't say anything or ignore the baiters and call them what they are- then get skewered by black pastors and liberal news media as heartless whiteys.  i believe that much of this country wants to move past a race discussion, but the baiters don't want to, since it gets them so much media.  it's so much easier to blame someone or something else for your own problems.

[Sage 703]

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
   

Originally posted by callat703:
  I think you're wrong.  It is largely going to depend on the media coverage of today's speech from this point forward, but I think they won't have a choice as to whether or not to talk about it.  You don't think this becomes a question in any debate from this point forward?  Obama can get on the stump from this point on and incorporate this discussion in his platform.

i had been trying to avoid this, but. . .i think this is only an issue in the democratic party.  because the race-baiters have been so vocal over these past years, republicans either don't say anything or ignore the baiters and call them what they are- then get skewered by black pastors and liberal news media as heartless whiteys.  i believe that much of this country wants to move past a race discussion, but the baiters don't want to, since it gets them so much media.  it's so much easier to blame someone or something else for your own problems. [/b]

This is the same discussion we just agreed to disagree on  

[Frank Gallagher]

Originally posted by callat703:
   

Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
   

Originally posted by callat703:
     

Originally posted by BookerT:
  but i'm not your average voter and y'all are crazy if you think this isn't going to be a FUCKING HUGE problem for him in the general election. hillary's mumbo jumbo about her already being vetted and him not being vetted actually looks a bit more prescient right now.

But this is part of why this speech is so brilliant.  He's recast the discussion.  Hillary Clinton and John McCain are now both forced to discuss race on this level - and do we honestly think either of them can do that? [/b]

If they're smart they won't say a word. What is there to discuss? He didn't say anything earth-shattering or life changing.
 
 and Booker is spot on...if Obama ends up as the democrat candidate then the dems are fucked, because the republicans will crucify him over this issue.
 
 Game, set and match to McCain unless Hillary can pull some miracle between now and November. [/b]

I think you're wrong.  It is largely going to depend on the media coverage of today's speech from this point forward, but I think they won't have a choice as to whether or not to talk about it.  You don't think this becomes a question in any debate from this point forward?  Obama can get on the stump from this point on and incorporate this discussion in his platform. [/b]

I'm sure the right leaning media will try to put him away becuase he stood by his bigoted pastor, and the liberals compare it to MLK's "I have a dream" so one will cancel out the other as usual.

[Venerable Bede]

Originally posted by callat703:
   

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
   

Originally posted by callat703:
  I think you're wrong.  It is largely going to depend on the media coverage of today's speech from this point forward, but I think they won't have a choice as to whether or not to talk about it.  You don't think this becomes a question in any debate from this point forward?  Obama can get on the stump from this point on and incorporate this discussion in his platform.

i had been trying to avoid this, but. . .i think this is only an issue in the democratic party.  because the race-baiters have been so vocal over these past years, republicans either don't say anything or ignore the baiters and call them what they are- then get skewered by black pastors and liberal news media as heartless whiteys.  i believe that much of this country wants to move past a race discussion, but the baiters don't want to, since it gets them so much media.  it's so much easier to blame someone or something else for your own problems. [/b]

This is the same discussion we just agreed to disagree on    [/b]

i know, i know. . i couldn't help chiming in.

[HoyaSaxa03]

jesus, i'm glad i haven't checked in on this thread in a few weeks ... looks like pages and pages of more of the same crap from mankie, the guy really is just one step above from a knuckle-scraping moron

[manimtired]

i guess he has more time to debate such topics while youre busy organizing your itunes library and listening to backpack rap.  hows college?

[Frank Gallagher]

Originally posted by Hoyas Final 4:
  jesus, i'm glad i haven't checked in on this thread in a few weeks ... looks like pages and pages of more of the same crap from mankie, the guy really is just one step above from a knuckle-scraping moron

One step above huh....why thank you, I'm flattered.
 
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[HoyaSaxa03]

Originally posted by manimtired:
  hows college?

fucking sweet dude, kegger tonight in the special collections room of the law library

[Frank Gallagher]

Originally posted by Hoyas Final 4:
   

Originally posted by manimtired:
  hows college?

kegger tonight in the special collections room of the law library [/b]

...and I'm the knuckle scraper!   :roll: