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Re: 2009 Grammy Awards
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2009, 03:07:39 pm »
My wife saw Adele and commented, "Who's that? She looks like the girl who couldn't get a date to the prom."

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Re: 2009 Grammy Awards
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2009, 03:13:33 pm »
My wife saw Adele and commented, "Who's that? She looks like the girl who couldn't get a date to the prom."

nice to see you and your wife have merged into one big giant dickhead.

Re: 2009 Grammy Awards
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2009, 03:15:12 pm »
You're free to choose how seriously you take my posts. It's entirely up to you.

All I'm saying is that when it comes to music posts, there's some people on this board whose opinions I take more seriously than others. Of course, those people are often the people whose tastes are aligned with mine, but not always.

That said, I'm probably not going to take anybody who lauds both Justin Timberlake and Carrie Underwood too seriously.

Calla, i'm not sure I can take anything you ever post on this board seriously after reading your generally positive review.

well that's rather un-generous of you, charles: i certainly try my hardest to take your posts seriously, despite how predictable their negativity is.

Re: 2009 Grammy Awards
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2009, 03:17:36 pm »
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Re: 2009 Grammy Awards
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2009, 03:22:39 pm »
You're free to choose how seriously you take my posts. It's entirely up to you.

All I'm saying is that when it comes to music posts, there's some people on this board whose opinions I take more seriously than others. Of course, those people are often the people whose tastes are aligned with mine, but not always.

That said, I'm probably not going to take anybody who lauds both Justin Timberlake and Carrie Underwood too seriously.


More than fair.  It is worth giving them a shot, even if you don't anticipate liking it.  If you go in with the verdict already in mind, I think you miss out more often than not.  I'm also willing to bet we match up on music tastes more than you might think, but to each their own.

Re: 2009 Grammy Awards
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2009, 03:23:32 pm »
My wife saw Adele and commented, "Who's that? She looks like the girl who couldn't get a date to the prom."

nice to see you and your wife have merged into one big giant dickhead.

Are you implying she is wrong? Come one, she's spot on with that one.




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Summary: Music for fat, pubescent girls to get dumped to.

Think the British sense of humour is more sophisticated and refined than its American equivalent? Think again. Earlier this year, Adele's "Chasing Pavements" became a national sensation in both pubs and playgrounds, as boy and man alike tried to work out what the hell this girl was singing on this song that had suddenly started appearing everywhere. Popular suggestions included both the silly ('Should I hiccup?') and the outright brilliant ('Would it be a waste/If I just came on your face?'). Even people who were seriously trying to figure it out thought the song was either called "Chasing Payment" or "Chasing Paper". It was a fleeting mondegreen classic.

The reason this review starts with that story is that it's the most interesting thing about Adele. This in spite of the amount of money, hype, and transparent PR that has followed her since day one - the girl won a Brit award before she'd even released anything substantial, for Christ's sake. They invented a whole new award just so that could happen, too. Then they paid off all the radio stations to play "Chasing Pavements" even more often than they were playing "Valerie" and "Rehab", hoping that they could catch some of that Winehouse lightning before people got tired of it.

And the PR! Something about it makes me want to praise it as cynical genius, an attempt to fuse the appeal of the three most talked-about female artists in the British media right now. She was alternatively painted as a straight-talking, sassy London girl (Lily Allen), a husky-voiced appreciator of classic soul (Amy Winehouse), and really fat (Beth Ditto). Oh, and they made sure to tell everybody that 19 was both named after her weight in stones (thus making her an icon for fat women who are proud to be fat, like Ditto), and was inspired by a break-up, just the same way that Back in Black was. If you're fourteen and female, you could be forgiven for being taken in by all this rhetoric. Take her interviews and her press at face value and Adele seems strong, smart, talented, and a little bit dangerous. She doesn't care what she looks like or what anybody thinks, and doesn't think you should either; but, should you get dumped, she's there to sing a pretty song in your ear, too. It's more than a little reminiscent of the Spice Girls. If Adele had tunes as good as they did.

Both as a singer and as a songwriter, Adele is incredibly naive - so much so that, at times, you feel slightly sorry for her. She should never have been thrust into the limelight as early as this, because with a little maturity, experience, and training her voice could be a potentially devastating emotional weapon. She just has no idea how to use it yet. Adele doesn't sound like any of her contemporaries as much as she sounds like a blonde Texan in the American Idol auditions trying to sing a song by a Dusty Springfield or a Roberta Flack in the style of Mariah Carey or Christina Aguilera. Her vocal showiness, her forced huskiness, her badly judged breath control; they all detract from her songs. Nowhere is this more obvious than on her hopelessly incompetent reading of Bob Dylan's "Make You Feel My Love".

Not that her own songs suffer too much; largely, they're mediocre in the first place. "Cold Shoulder" is the best thing here, and that's entirely because of Mark Ronson's golden touch rather than Adele. "Chasing Pavements" could have been good, but the over-the-top arrangement and Adele's unabashed vocal ground it in slightly embarrassing territory, and Adele's insistence on spending a verse repeating the chorus lyrics just smacks of laziness. The arrangements, in fact, offer another problem throughout, and it's a problem that contrasts entirely with "Chasing Pavements" - they're too basic. Adele's voice isn't yet strong enough to carry a song on its own, so why so many of the songs here have so little in the way of instrumentation is baffling. The bigger arrangements are an improvement, but they lack the imagination that characterizes the finest musical moments of Winehouse and Duffy. The melodies are largely indistinct, almost certainly the result of not putting much effort into writing them. The lyrics are the cherry on top - quite simply, she's a poor writer. "Melt My Heart to Stone" follows up its poorly conceived title with the lines 'Right under my feet/There's air made of bricks'. Okay, you get what she's trying to do - write enigmatic lines that generate interest by directly subverting expectation - but it just comes across as pointless nonsense. Elsewhere she gives in to banality far too often - is 'I like to sit on chairs and you prefer the floor' meant to be a homely, cozy picture of a loving relationship? Because it's lines like that that can put your listener into a coma.

Compared to both Back in Black and Rockferry, 19 comes off so badly you actually begin to pity Adele. It can't even stack up to Gabriella Cilmi. Estelle? Leona Lewis? Yikes. Avoid.

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Re: 2009 Grammy Awards
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2009, 03:27:06 pm »
In the words of Olivia Palermo: "What? Like we're going to have Shamu coming down the red carpet?"

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Re: 2009 Grammy Awards
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2009, 03:28:18 pm »
Well, I've seen Adele, and she's got a MASSIVE voice and is a charismatic performer.  Regardless of how good 19 is (and it isn't very good, really, beyond "Chasing Pavements" and "Cold Shoulder"), she's enormously talented.  I think she'll ultimately be around longer than Winehouse, Duffy, Estelle, or the rest of that crop, simply because her success is based on her voice rather than her celebrity or appearance.

Re: 2009 Grammy Awards
« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2009, 03:29:42 pm »
Well I did see the Timberlake performance, and to me he's just always going to be a musical lightweight. I'm not sure if it's him, or the genre that he works in.

I didn't see Underwood's performance, but have on other occasions. To me, she's an example of the sad travesty that country music has become. I will give the Grammy's credit, four of the five country nominees did put out listenable albums, but to me she's not one of the four.


That Lonesome Song by Jamey Johnson
Sleepless Nights by Patty Loveless
Troubadour by George Strait
Around The Bend by Randy Travis
Heaven, Heartache And The Power Of Love by Trisha Yearwood

You're free to choose how seriously you take my posts. It's entirely up to you.

All I'm saying is that when it comes to music posts, there's some people on this board whose opinions I take more seriously than others. Of course, those people are often the people whose tastes are aligned with mine, but not always.

That said, I'm probably not going to take anybody who lauds both Justin Timberlake and Carrie Underwood too seriously.


More than fair.  It is worth giving them a shot, even if you don't anticipate liking it.  If you go in with the verdict already in mind, I think you miss out more often than not.  I'm also willing to bet we match up on music tastes more than you might think, but to each their own.

Re: 2009 Grammy Awards
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2009, 03:31:48 pm »
I don't think she holds a candle to Amy Winehouse, though I'd certainly put money on her outlasting her.

Well, I've seen Adele, and she's got a MASSIVE voice and is a charismatic performer.  Regardless of how good 19 is (and it isn't very good, really, beyond "Chasing Pavements" and "Cold Shoulder"), she's enormously talented.  I think she'll ultimately be around longer than Winehouse, Duffy, Estelle, or the rest of that crop, simply because her success is based on her voice rather than her celebrity or appearance.

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Re: 2009 Grammy Awards
« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2009, 03:35:42 pm »
Well I did see the Timberlake performance, and to me he's just always going to be a musical lightweight. I'm not sure if it's him, or the genre that he works in.

I didn't see Underwood's performance, but have on other occasions. To me, she's an example of the sad travesty that country music has become. I will give the Grammy's credit, four of the five country nominees did put out listenable albums, but to me she's not one of the four.


That Lonesome Song by Jamey Johnson
Sleepless Nights by Patty Loveless
Troubadour by George Strait
Around The Bend by Randy Travis
Heaven, Heartache And The Power Of Love by Trisha Yearwood

Again, fair.  I'm not a country music fan, I've never heard a Carrie Underwood album, or anything she's put down in a studio for that matter.  I've just seen her perform live on shows like this a couple of times - and I always walk away impressed.

Re: 2009 Grammy Awards
« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2009, 03:43:09 pm »
Methinks they probably picked her to perform out of those five because she's the youngest, prettiest, and least country of the bunch.

Well I did see the Timberlake performance, and to me he's just always going to be a musical lightweight. I'm not sure if it's him, or the genre that he works in.

I didn't see Underwood's performance, but have on other occasions. To me, she's an example of the sad travesty that country music has become. I will give the Grammy's credit, four of the five country nominees did put out listenable albums, but to me she's not one of the four.


That Lonesome Song by Jamey Johnson
Sleepless Nights by Patty Loveless
Troubadour by George Strait
Around The Bend by Randy Travis
Heaven, Heartache And The Power Of Love by Trisha Yearwood

Again, fair.  I'm not a country music fan, I've never heard a Carrie Underwood album, or anything she's put down in a studio for that matter.  I've just seen her perform live on shows like this a couple of times - and I always walk away impressed.

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Re: 2009 Grammy Awards
« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2009, 03:46:06 pm »
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Re: 2009 Grammy Awards
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2009, 04:45:07 pm »
Only one word comes to mind for last night's Grammys: turgid. Not that I expected anything from it, but I tried to give it a shot. And I would venture to guess 90% of performances were lip-synched, so it's not even realistic to assume what we were seeing was raw talent.

And yeah, Whitney and Travis Barker must have been out of their minds on dope, smack, OxyContin, whatever. Everything was pretty disastrous though. I didn't think Paul McCartney was all that bad though. Watching Dave Grohl drum is always a pleasure. 

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Re: 2009 Grammy Awards
« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2009, 05:09:11 pm »
all right, back to chris brown.  so this caught my ear.  supposably rihanna has a tattoo of her "girl friend's" birthdate tattooed on her shoulder, loved to take long showers with her.  loves to hold hands with her and were seen giggling together at that trainwreck where b. spears performed on some mtv movie awards.  chris and her have been known to be arguing about something "private" for the last few weeks.

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