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bellenseb

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Oldies gone at noon!
« on: April 03, 2006, 10:08:00 am »
WBIG 100.3 flips to an unknown new format at high noon today. Where will I get my "Build Me Up Buttercup" and "On Broadway" fix now?

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« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2006, 04:52:00 pm »
they were just out at Wolftrap this weekend playing music for those waiting in line

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« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2006, 07:15:00 pm »
oh well, one more format that has seen better days.  while i mourn oldies stations in concept (they were quite a boon to me, personally.  i would always go to an oldies station whenever i was tired of whatever else was on the radio), who really wants to hear the same 30 songs over and over again.  wait, isn't that the current business model for most radio stations these days?
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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2006, 07:47:00 pm »
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Originally posted by bellenseb:
  WBIG 100.3 flips to an unknown new format at high noon today. Where will I get my "Build Me Up Buttercup" and "On Broadway" fix now?
You know where.
 
   :roll:  
 
 Why is it that on one thread, you complain the mainstream station on XM is too mainstream for you, but then in the very next breath, you complain that advertising-laden terrestrial oldies, which is a horribly narrow and borning format, is going away?

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« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2006, 08:36:00 pm »
J'Mal, I know you're XM's press secretary, but really...my point was that XM has just dramatically shrunken its playlist on Ethel. I didn't see you dispute that...
 
 You still won't even acknowledge the reality of their inane treatment of indie...
 
 If either satellite radio had any station that was even *remotely* like KEXP or WOXY or The Current - music fans freely programming the best new and old stuff, adding personality and not limited by absurd time limits - I would jump, really, but the truth is that the programming for music lovers is just pretty pitiful in my opinion, and it's not really rocket science. I'll grant you that the oldies stations I've heard via DirecTv are fun, if you'll grant that XM is not unassailable...

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« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2006, 10:01:00 pm »
Of course it isn't unassailable. I can think of many things that XM can do to improve itself.  But it is way, way far from "pitiful."  It is most excellent.  Which is not perfect, but pretty damn good and certanily the best bet in this or any other town.
 
 What is strange to me about your posts is that no matter what you think of XM, whether you like it or not or in whichever degree, it is indisputably, vastly superior to terrestrial radio.  This much is a scientifically correct fact.  So it is not psychologically rational to mourn the loss of shitty terrestrial radio formats and at the same time find that XM's flaws are too much for you.

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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2006, 09:42:00 am »
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  Of course it isn't unassailable. I can think of many things that XM can do to improve itself.  But it is way, way far from "pitiful."  It is most excellent.  Which is not perfect, but pretty damn good and certanily the best bet in this or any other town.
 
 What is strange to me about your posts is that no matter what you think of XM, whether you like it or not or in whichever degree, it is indisputably, vastly superior to terrestrial radio.  This much is a scientifically correct fact.  So it is not psychologically rational to mourn the loss of shitty terrestrial radio formats and at the same time find that XM's flaws are too much for you.
OK, J'Mal - name three things you don't like about XM.

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« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2006, 10:35:00 am »
I'll name 4
 
 1. I wish the sound quality were a little better. It isn't bad, but it isn't what it used to be either.  They are in a crunch on the bandwidth  due to the clear channel bullshit discussed on the other thread.  I anticipate this will go away when the clear channel deal expires.
 
 2.  I share your feelings that XMU could do a better job.  In particular the urban stuff is not appropriate on that channel.  If all the subsoniq underground hip hop crap were replaced with more indie stuff, and the playlist broadened a bit, it would be fantastic.  Also, they need to go back to live DJs on that station.
 
 3.  Despite the existence of excellent and compelling "niche" programming, like the chill channel, alt country, etc., I think they could still add more good music formats and cut back on some of the "hits" crap.  Some of my favorite channels have been removed from the satellites -- in particular I'm unhappy that the cocktail lounge channel (on the rocks) is gone and that latin jazz (luna) is going this month.  I discern no difference between kiss, 20, mix, blend, all that pop shit, some of that should go to make room for the really unique stuff.  To be fair, they're bringing back the extreme head banging death metal due to "popular" demand but that's not my bag.  Still, I respect the metal in a way I don't respect the kelly clarkson shit.
 
 4.  There's so much good stuff on it, it is often difficult to choose what to listen to.
 
 Now, bellensab, explain how you can be simultaneously (1) upset about the loss of terrestrial radio formats and (2) criticize anything XM does.

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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2006, 12:27:00 pm »
Oh crap, I wonder if they're gonna bounce Scooter MacGruder (Sundays 10pm-2am).  He had a soul oldies show with all off-the-playlist selections; the best radio show in DC. If they knew what they were doing they woulda put him on every day all day

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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2006, 01:58:00 pm »
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Originally posted by J'Mal:
  I'll name 4
 
 1. I wish the sound quality were a little better. It isn't bad, but it isn't what it used to be either.  They are in a crunch on the bandwidth  due to the clear channel bullshit discussed on the other thread.  I anticipate this will go away when the clear channel deal expires.
 
 2.  I share your feelings that XMU could do a better job.  In particular the urban stuff is not appropriate on that channel.  If all the subsoniq underground hip hop crap were replaced with more indie stuff, and the playlist broadened a bit, it would be fantastic.  Also, they need to go back to live DJs on that station.
 
 3.  Despite the existence of excellent and compelling "niche" programming, like the chill channel, alt country, etc., I think they could still add more good music formats and cut back on some of the "hits" crap.  Some of my favorite channels have been removed from the satellites -- in particular I'm unhappy that the cocktail lounge channel (on the rocks) is gone and that latin jazz (luna) is going this month.  I discern no difference between kiss, 20, mix, blend, all that pop shit, some of that should go to make room for the really unique stuff.  To be fair, they're bringing back the extreme head banging death metal due to "popular" demand but that's not my bag.  Still, I respect the metal in a way I don't respect the kelly clarkson shit.
 
 4.  There's so much good stuff on it, it is often difficult to choose what to listen to.
 
 Now, bellensab, explain how you can be simultaneously (1) upset about the loss of terrestrial radio formats and (2) criticize anything XM does.
J'Mal, it's because XM is a pay service - yes, not that much money - that has the potential to be teriffic, and yet does a willfully poor job of programming. In my opinion. What's more, they are becoming significantly *worse* on alt rock, due specifically to FMers coming in and homogenizing playlists. Yes, the oldies stations are pretty good, and the Loft is intermittently listenable between all the easy listening stuff they play - at least it has some passion behind it. But mostly I find the streams I've heard to be dull. A single hour of KEXP programming is much much fresher and more well-thought-out than anything they put out in that area. So, while it might be better than over-the-air, it's just galling to have to pay for it.

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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2006, 03:17:00 pm »
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Originally posted by bellenseb:
  WBIG 100.3 flips to an unknown new format at high noon today. Where will I get my "Build Me Up Buttercup" and "On Broadway" fix now?
So what's the new format?
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bellenseb

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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2006, 03:21:00 pm »
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Originally posted by bellenseb:
  WBIG 100.3 flips to an unknown new format at high noon today. Where will I get my "Build Me Up Buttercup" and "On Broadway" fix now?
So what's the new format? [/b]
It's "The Greatest Hits of Rock n' Roll", which translates to all the songs 94.7 plays, that hit the top 10. Eagles, Fleetwood Mac, Billy Joel, Journey, etc. Yech.

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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2006, 03:24:00 pm »
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Originally posted by bellenseb:
 It's "The Greatest Hits of Rock n' Roll", which translates to all the songs 94.7 plays, that hit the top 10. Eagles, Fleetwood Mac, Billy Joel, Journey, etc. Yech.
so i guess we'll be seeing scenes like this throughout the dc area?
 
 The Dude: Jesus, man, can you change the station?
 Cab Driver: Fuck you man! You don't like my fucking music, get your own fucking cab!
 The Dude: I've had a--
 Cab Driver: I'll pull over and kick your ass out, man!
 The Dude: I've had a rough night, and I hate the fucking Eagles, man...
 Cab Driver: That's it! Outta this fucking cab!
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Re: Oldies gone at noon!
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2006, 03:32:00 pm »
In the past two days, I've heard the Cure and Green Day on 94.7. Since when are these bands "classic rock"?

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« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2006, 03:34:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
  In the past two days, I've heard the Cure and Green Day on 94.7. Since when are these bands "classic rock"?
Since we've all aged a generation or two.
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