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sonickteam2

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One company decides whats CDs are out there.
« on: January 07, 2004, 09:45:00 am »
well sort of
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 Music industry dances to Michigan firm's tune
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 TROY, Mich. - A little-known company in a nondescript office park hold a big influence over the international music industry.
 
 Few people this suburban Detroit community know what Handleman Co. does, let alone realize the impact it has on retailers, major record companies and musicians ranging from Kid Rock to Toby Keith to Luciano Pavarotti.
 
 Handleman plays a key role in determining what music sellers such as Kmart and Wal-Mart stock on their shelves and which ones are banished to the bargain bin, The Detroit News reported Sunday.
 
 "If you know music at all, you know what Handleman does. Mick Jagger knows what Handleman does," said Geoff Mayfield, director of charts and a senior analyst for Billboard magazine.
 
 Handleman's business is deceptively simple. Retailers pay the Troy-based company to manage their music departments, keeping them supplied with best-selling titles.
 
 In all, Handleman services more than 4,000 stores on three continents. With more consumers turning to mass merchants to buy music, Handleman-managed stores sold 11 percent of all music in the United States this year.
 
 That is why 3 Doors Down, Brian McKnight and other artists make special stops at Handleman's offices. It's not uncommon for employees to be treated to performances by the Goo Goo Dolls, or receive e-mails from the members of Brooks & Dunn.
 
 Handleman officials say their jobs offer many perks. But when it comes to deciding who's hot and who's not, they rely on company data to decide what to stock.
 
 "We get to meet our fair share of these guys and gals, some of whom are really, really good people, and some that you hope don't meet your daughter," said Handleman President Gerardo "Gerry" Lopez.
 
 "We don't pass judgment on the music. If you like rap, bless you. If you like classical, bless you. All I want to know is where you shop so I can get it to you," Lopez said. "We let the consumer decide with their dollars, which ultimately is the most important vote."
 
 So while Lopez might have Alan Jackson in his home stereo, his personal feelings don't effect what he does in the office. It's his two-inch thick binder of Excel spreadsheets updated daily that tells him how many CDs to order, where to ship them and when to pull them off the shelves.
 
 "Our biggest challenge is knowing when to step on the accelerator and at the same time knowing when to step off," Lopez said. "Because doing it at the wrong time has implications for the artist, for our customers and for us. It's very volatile. Records can be here and gone in no time at all. And it's tough to predict. But we get paid to figure that out."
 
 It seems strange that an area known for cars and manufacturing could also be home to a company like Handleman, which earned a record $1.35 billion in annual sales in fiscal 2003, which ended May 3.
 
 Its headquarters has been in the Detroit area for more than 65 years, and it has no plans of moving to Los Angeles or New York. Rather, Handleman executives are happy to work in relative isolation.

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Re: One company decides whats CDs are out there.
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2004, 11:24:00 am »
I think the real danger is when Clear Channel steps in and purchases Handleman.  If they don't already.  Oy vey.

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Re: One company decides whats CDs are out there.
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2004, 11:30:00 am »
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  I think the real danger is when Clear Channel steps in and purchases Handleman.
Why?

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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2004, 11:30:00 am »
that sucks, yes, but, no real music lovers buy their music from Wal Mart of K-Mart, or rely on mainstream radio, anyway

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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2004, 12:04:00 pm »
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  that sucks, yes, but, no real music lovers buy their music from Wal Mart of K-Mart, or rely on mainstream radio, anyway
very true.

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Re: One company decides whats CDs are out there.
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2004, 12:10:00 pm »
Because it's more consolidation -- Clear Channel would have all the mainstream radio, all the venues, and all the CD rack access in major chains!
 
 And while it's true that most music lovers don't shop there, most of America does, and that's where the best sellers happen.
 
 But, this problem has probably been around forever.  I bought my first album at a K-Mart (Donny & Marie -- I was 8).
 
 
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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2004, 12:34:00 pm »
Does CC really have all the mainstream radio?  I thought it was something like 17% of FM stations.
 
 And 11% of music sales is hardly a monopoly.

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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2004, 12:36:00 pm »
Oy, I knew that was going to happen.  Of course I didn't mean all, and though not a monopoly, along with the radio and venue control, a lot of control over music sales GENERALLY.
 
 Or, I'm completely wrong.  I don't shop at those places, listen to those stations or go to those venues (when I can help it), so what the fuck do I care.
 
 
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  Does CC really have all the mainstream radio?  I thought it was something like 17% of FM stations.
 
 And 11% of music sales is hardly a monopoly.

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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2004, 12:45:00 pm »
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I thought it was something like 17% of FM stations.
 
just curious - how much of the US pop is covered by those 17% of stations?

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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2004, 12:56:00 pm »
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I thought it was something like 17% of FM stations.
 
just curious - how much of the US pop is covered by those 17% of stations? [/b]
I've heard various numbers running from 25% to 90%.  I never seen a reliable statistic.  The Salon article published a couple of years ago, which seems to be required reading on the subject, says it's 60%. But, how are these figures calculated?  If CC has one NYC station, does that count all 10,000,000 plus people in the NYC region?  What if they have three NYC stations?  Is that 30,000,000?
 
 I don't think too highly of CC's formatting, but I noticed on another board that a lot of people who complained endlessly about CC ramming Linkin Bizkit et al down people's throats are now bitching because CC has started an indie-station in California.  So it makes me wonder just how truly evil CC really is, or whether they are just a convenient target for broader anti-corporate grandstanding.

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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2004, 12:58:00 pm »
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  And while it's true that most music lovers don't shop there, most of America does, and that's where the best sellers happen
well true artists often don't get the "best seller" status they may "deserve"--that's life...who cares about best sellers, other than that we'd all like to see our favorite bands not starving and homeless...it's about the music, man

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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2004, 01:00:00 pm »
I know it's about music, but the best sellers make it harder for other music to get on and stay on record labels.

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« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2004, 01:05:00 pm »
I think CC's "evility" is really (maybe only) in its control of venues.  I believe it does limit access based on control of so many venues in so many cities.  And if you can't book into a CC venue when you'll be near a particular city (because they're booked, etc.), are you going to alienate them by booking into a competitor if 80% of your other shows are CC venues around the country?
 
 But you're likely right, ggw, that they also pose a good "anti-conglomerate" target as well.
 
 
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I thought it was something like 17% of FM stations.
 
just curious - how much of the US pop is covered by those 17% of stations? [/b]
So it makes me wonder just how truly evil CC really is, or whether they are just a convenient target for broader anti-corporate grandstanding. [/b]

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Re: One company decides whats CDs are out there.
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2004, 02:37:00 pm »
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  I know it's about music, but the best sellers make it harder for other music to get on and stay on record labels.
the best music is on smaller or indie labels, anyway...

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« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2004, 02:41:00 pm »
Riiight...as if there are that many true indie labels still left in the U.S. Most have distribution deals with the majors, so they enjoy being labeled indie while having their hand in the backpocket of the majors.
 
 
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 the best music is on smaller or indie labels, anyway...