musically they were great. i'd be a liar to say that I really still am floored by those records. i totally respect them, but i'm not in the same place. im also not too cool to say they provided some great memories being a late teen turning 20 and being stoked to go to their shows. my wife had a blast. and you know, i can see why people like their shows, the band is not cynical and that only translates into good "energy" i guess
i wouldnt say it was the small venue, their fans i think no matter where it is in dc for the most part are pretty nuts for a band that at least early on ripped off brainiac and really at least locally are a bit, as generic as this sounds, overrated.
i totally get the boston thing, but really? do you need to run people over just so you can sing with a bunch of other white people? not everyone needs to go on stage. i too like to move and dance, but i also am aware of who is arround me. I totally get that you paid for a ticket, but sorry dude, this isn't fucking seeing void or iron cross. get outta here, no one wants to see your goofy "spazzy" dancing to a song about not being invited to a party.
asking someone if they "really need that walker and if they are just faking their disability just to be closer" is pretty much where i draw the line though.
like i said, i got knocked over a shit ton at hardcore shows, and i also know when to stand back and not be involved, but at least people there say sorry and and make sure others around them are ok (this does not apply to everyone but compared to the dplan show, you'd think the last drunkdriver and even cold world show had all the kids drinking from the ian mcckaye koolaid.