you know . . . i like widespread panic. they have this awesome presale for their shows and yes sometimes multiple shows go on sale the same day making it suck. but i see they went multiple show passes for the latest tour, making it easier. i've always got my tickets through their presale and paid less than ticket services everytime, and they send out the tickets just as quick as ticketmaster. phish should ditch the lottery and go with straight up presale. or create an entire internet based company with low overhead to just sell the tickets outright and control the fees so fans are happy. they're big boys with enough power. all bands should push it. who will be the first, which will alter the landscape? radiohead . . . mmm? and whatever happened to devendra banhart, besides the art? the bands will more than likely raise the price of tickets to overcome the cuts from ticket sellers, but people don't bitch as much about that anymore unless it's flat out fucking ridiculous like rolling stones or madonna.