Musicological banter

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went to disogs to see if I could find a physical copy of that Merge Going to Georgia compilation...it was aways digital only


I agree with a lot of this list detailing best debut albums

https://www.discogs.com/digs/collecting/best-debut-albums
although some duds on here
I just can't do King Crimson and how that got #2  ( I guess my distain for prog rock is showing)

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I had thought of what outside of the very obvious sample of the The Jam used by The Beastie Boys on their b-side "And What You Give Is What You Get" who if anyone had sampled them.  Turns outside of Sleaford Mods no one really notable expect that there is a riff from "Dream Time" used within Massive Attacks "Man Next Door"

anyways the point of this is I found this nifty video that plays the sample and then where in the songs they are used for Mezzanine

Every Sample From Massive Attack's Mezzanine

https://youtu.be/43zMEQnnKbo

and not to leave anyone hanging here is the forementioned beastie boys track
https://youtu.be/ui3T0ShrtbI

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This one goes into a little further detail and points out that Massive Attack interpolated certain elements verses out right sampling them.  This one IDs the Jam riff sampled

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4DPoxvd9KM

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It’s 9 o’clock on a Saturday.

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Regular crowd shuffles in (?)

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Jimmy Eat World@jimmyeatworld
Advice for new bands: When coming up with a band name, make sure it’s acronym displayed really large on your artwork or t shirts won’t be complicating matters. You’re welcome.

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2025 ROCK HALL INDUCTION NOMINEES

Bad Company (first-time nominee)
The Black Crowes (first-time nominee)
Mariah Carey
Chubby Checker (first-time nominee)
Joe Cocker (first-time nominee)
Billy Idol (first-time nominee)
Joy Division/New Order
Cyndi Lauper
Maná (first-time nominee)
Oasis
OutKast (first-time nominee)
Phish (first-time nominee)
Soundgarden
The White Stripes


the black crows...really?
Mana?  don't people have to actually know you to be 'famous'
Nice to seek joy division / new order on there

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Best list in years.

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the black crows...really?
Mana?  don't people have to actually know you to be 'famous'

Black Crows, yeah, might as well make sure Spin Doctors and Blind Melon get in too.
I recall Maná being in the discussion of "Latin Rock" making the big crossover to the US markets in early 2000s (back when I read more than a fair share of music mags). I feel like they were pitched as a Spanish Language U2, as far as broad accessibility, vs. their contemporaries.
I think, in my very light research and historical recollection, they were also maybe at the crest of their wave, burned out (they went on a four-year hiatus from 2002-2006) and also didn't have the cross-language aura and mystique that they held in Latin America.
It's obviously an outreach to Spanish speaking communities (with the general decline of rock and music culture in general, in the US), honestly, to me, Shakira would have been a better and bigger choice, especially with the scope of her earlier work and continued relevance across communities.

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Mana is a joke. Their record label must have put up serious cashola.

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Mana is a joke. Their record label must have put up serious Pachocha.

FTFY

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Best list in years.

Phish has a 50% lead in the fan vote over the #2 spot, currently held by Billiam Idol.

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If Idol doesn’t get in there is something wrong…. He single handedly mainstreamed (an albeit diluted) punk

I would like to see Steve Stevens and Keith Forsey inducted with Billy

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Looking forward to watching the Questlove produce Sly Stone documentary, but this is just sad to hear

 ‘Sly Lives!’ Producer Reveals Why Sly Stone Wasn’t Interviewed for Documentary

"His eyes reveal a precociousness and a lucidity that’s there, but his motor function doesn’t exist."

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aw damn that does suck

Didn't he do some live dates somewhat recently

edit...looked it up and last show was 2014
he did cochella in 2010

double edit...the 2010 was ...yikes

Sly Stone performed at Coachella on April 18, 2010, but the performance was widely described as disastrous. The concert was marked by significant issues, including:
Stone arrived late, with multiple schedule changes throughout the evening
He spoke at length to the crowd about his legal problems instead of performing
Ben Greenman of The New Yorker described Stone as seemingly high and ranting about being "kidnapped" and having a lawsuit against his former manager
He would stop songs mid-performance, confusing both his band and the audience
Gustavo Turner of LA Weekly characterized the performance as "truly awful", noting that many audience members were angry, some were laughing, and most were "appalled at the spectacle". The set concluded with Stone performing "I Want To Take You Higher" before walking into the crowd and leaving.
Despite the poor reception, some fans on Reddit later described the performance as "completely memorable", if not musically successful