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« Reply #90 on: February 06, 2025, 01:23:18 pm »
Another Benefit Compilation has been released

LOS ANGELES RISING

 https://losangelesrising.bandcamp.com/album/los-angeles-rising

hutch and loveandrocketshatch might want to sit down as there is a collaboration that might do their heads in :)

A compilation of music benefitting the SWEET RELIEF Musicians Fund and their work supporting artists and music professionals who have lost their homes and instruments in the Los Angeles fires.

Musician Kevin Haskins (Love and Rockets, Bauhaus), Record producer Nick Launay (Nick Cave, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, IDLES) came together after witnessing the destruction of the homes and livelihoods of not only fellow artists but also of their support structure of crew, publicists, marketing teams and of their collaborators, producers, recording and mastering engineers.

Digging into their own archives for unheard gems, they decided to reach out to like minded artists for their own contributions, and the response was overwhelming!

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Trigger Warning

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FLEA FRUSCIANTE HASKINS and DEANGELIS - A System For Shutting Everything Out

The Flea/Frusciante song was recorded on the fly in 2002, when the musicians were all rehearsing at the same L.A. studio. “I was so excited and nervous to work with them, and when we got together, I realized it was the same for them too,” Haskins recalls. “It has a very post-punk kind of vibe. It was very spontaneous and we made it up instantly. When we had the music, Flea said, ‘John, go and sing.’ He was a little reticent, but Flea said, ‘you can do this. Go. Get your [lyric] book.’ He sang this amazing vocal performance on the first take. A couple days later, I realized we didn’t have a title, so I called up John and said, ‘you came up the lyrics. Could you give me a title?’ There was a pause and he said, ‘A System for Shutting Everything Out,’ which just made me laugh. I’ve had some pivotal moments of working with other artists where I’ve had to pinch myself, and this was another one of them.”

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There was supposed to be another Haskin's contribution on it but it must have been dropped from the final release a cover of Bauhaus’ “All We Ever Wanted Was Everything” with Hannah Vandermolen, Nine Inch Nails’ Danny Lohner and harpist Mary Lattimore

https://www.spin.com/2025/02/los-angeles-rising-compilation/
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« Reply #91 on: February 06, 2025, 01:28:30 pm »
looks very interesting, although it has been rare that I have actually enjoyed any of these collaboration efforts from any artist

I can't think of a single compilation that there is a song where all these greats get together and make something amazing

can you name a few?
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« Reply #92 on: February 06, 2025, 02:06:17 pm »
looks very interesting, although it has been rare that I have actually enjoyed any of these collaboration efforts from any artist

I can't think of a single compilation that there is a song where all these greats get together and make something amazing

can you name a few?


The Red Hot series has some great great CDs like red hot Rio, red hot riot, red hot Gershwin, red hot Rio 2 etc

It’s rare though….

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« Reply #93 on: February 06, 2025, 02:12:08 pm »


The Red Hot series has some great great CDs like red hot Rio, red hot riot, red hot Gershwin, red hot Rio 2 etc
Red hot rio is great...but some incredible source material to build on

I'm going to check out that RedHot+riot Fela one, sounds cool
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Re: Bandcamp
« Reply #94 on: February 06, 2025, 02:22:13 pm »
 to be fair most of the monster compilations are always going to be mixed bag...

But this one is of the very best

Saving for a Custom Van which is tribute to Adam Schlesinger so the songs are already going be great.  Been thinking about re-listening to this recently

https://fatherdaughterrecords.bandcamp.com/album/saving-for-a-custom-van

The Red Hot Org compilations are always well thought out

There was the "Going To Georgia" compilation that Merge pulled together which their artists doing covers of  Georgia-centric songs. But, it's no longer available for purchase.

I think in general the more focused the compilation is the likely of it getting repeat listens are likely greater.  I'm sure they put out those 90 tracks ones out so as to pickup as many hardcore fans of the bands/artists who are liable to buy it for the one track they are likely interested in.
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« Reply #95 on: February 06, 2025, 02:45:01 pm »
There was the "Going To Georgia" compilation that Merge pulled together which their artists doing covers of  Georgia-centric songs.
I find this interesting they took the title of one of my favorite TMG songs
TMG is on the compliation and doesn't do this song

and he even retired this song

Going to Georgia ...is one of the most popular Mountain Goats songs from the lo-fi era, John Darnielle has disavowed it, believing it is misogynistic and romanticizes gun violence. the song was 'retired' in 2012



"I honestly don't want to play 'Going to Georgia' ever again. I really confronted my old catalog because I began getting more and more engaged with my feminism, and I think 'Going to Georgia' is a bullshit song. Bottom line: I know it's got a nice melody, and it's got a cool vibe, but that dude is bullshit and I don't want to be involved with him anymore. I'm not saying I'll never play it, I probably will, especially when the three of us are playing it kind of rocks, but I wish its lyrics were different, I don't know what to do with that. I don't like what's going on in that song. It seems daring and edgy to a 26-year-old dude to have a guy who goes down with a gun for unknown purposes to see somebody he claims to love, but to my present self, that guy is a fucking asshole. I don't like to celebrate things like that. I'm not ashamed of the song, the song has a vibe, I can't deny it, and I listen to Cannibal Corpse, you know. The song 'Fucked with a Knife,'there aren't multiple readings of that song. That song is a terrible, horrible song but you know, my own part in that stuff, I don't know. I have complex feelings about it." -- 2012-06-22 - Rio Theater - Vancouver, British Columbia
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« Reply #96 on: February 06, 2025, 03:03:46 pm »
It’s a real shame how John has disavowed and run from an entire period of songwriting.

Imagine if Bob Dylan turned his back on anything before the motorcycle crash.

I was really passionate about Mountain Goats for a while. I even hosted fans from other states when they came into DC to see him at the Black Cat. It was an interesting community. I remember we went backstage at his Black Cat show and hung out.

Then it just felt like he disavowed that and started anew. I can understand he felt boxed in and how many “Going to….”  Songs can you write? Also the lyrics in those years tapped into some highly personal and deep romanticism that invariably he and his fanbase would outgrow. I get that… but the way he went about it seemed like an almost violent rejection.

I used to listen to him so much. I never listen to him anymore and I haven’t had any desire to see him live in 25 years. I outgrew him, he outgrew himself or both?

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« Reply #97 on: February 06, 2025, 03:07:44 pm »
I mean John’s attitude about his 1990s stuff is literally to suppress it! Most of it has never been reissued or a one time 1000 copy pressing 20 years ago. It’s very extreme and for those of us whom that stuff mattered so much for…so deeply and personally….it’s perplexing and even troubling.

But you do you John.

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Re: Bandcamp
« Reply #98 on: February 06, 2025, 03:11:23 pm »
looks very interesting, although it has been rare that I have actually enjoyed any of these collaboration efforts from any artist

I can't think of a single compilation that there is a song where all these greats get together and make something amazing

can you name a few?


The Red Hot series has some great great CDs like red hot Rio, red hot riot, red hot Gershwin, red hot Rio 2 etc

It’s rare though….


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« Reply #99 on: February 06, 2025, 03:25:45 pm »
I tend to agree...i think it's pretty lame when bands disavow older material, whether due to lyrical content or just stylistic changes.  Say what you want, but it's one of the things I love about Ween...they still play a bunch of amateur songs written in their teen years that don't exactly hold-up culturally. 

But i also get it, especially if it came from a dark place, misogynistically speaking.   Not exactly the same, but it's like the Beastie Boys pretty much only performing one song from License to Ill in their later years (blanking on which one...Slow and Low maybe?).  I'm guessing it's hard for some performs to dig into songs like that as you get older.

But am I wrong in thinking he just played this one out a year or two back?  I feel like i saw videos from an outdoor NYC show.

I mean John’s attitude about his 1990s stuff is literally to suppress it! Most of it has never been reissued or a one time 1000 copy pressing 20 years ago. It’s very extreme and for those of us whom that stuff mattered so much for…so deeply and personally….it’s perplexing and even troubling.

But you do you John.

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« Reply #100 on: February 06, 2025, 03:29:15 pm »
But am I wrong in thinking he just played this one out a year or two back?  I feel like i saw videos from an outdoor NYC show.
I did cut out the part of the quote that says he's played it 7 times since 2012
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« Reply #101 on: February 06, 2025, 03:35:13 pm »
Imagine if Bob Dylan cut out most of his early 60s breakup songs cause he felt they came from a misogynistic place!!!

I find Bob’s pre motorcycle crash songs far more misogynistic than John’s and hell I admit I never saw this misogynistic bent to John’s songs. Even some post crash stuff like Idiot Wind by Bob is way way more out there than John…

“The most remarkable thing about coming home to you….”

I never found John’s stuff misogynistic. I found it incredibly romantic.

Anyway that’s it for me on this… it’s actually kind of painful and hurts. There was no need for that John.
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« Reply #102 on: February 06, 2025, 03:47:32 pm »
what gets me on this topic

the song seems to promote love and someone helping someone who is clearly hurting just by being there and present for them
stopping them from suicide
Jez that sounds insanely positive and good to me

I don't know how its "misogynistic and romanticizes gun violence."
unless a subtext is he is going there to kill her?

saw someone say this
This song is about being pissed off at someone (most likely a woman), and driving to middle of nowhere Georgia to kill her, but then reconsidering once he got there and saw her.


it's honestly one of my all-time favorite songs and can't imagine a world without it
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« Reply #103 on: February 06, 2025, 03:58:11 pm »
Same. I find it incredible and positive.


The whole thing with what happened to John is madness.

I mean plenty of artists write songs coming from one place and when they put them out there they are received by people from a totally different place. It’s an incredibly arrogant view of songwriting if John really thinks like that because so many musicians from Dylan on have spoken of songwriting as an act where you channel something that is already there functioning as a conduit. John makes it all about Himself. The person listening to the song apparently can have no personal relationship of their own to the song or if they do well John doesn’t want them to and suppresses the song.

And plenty of artists put out songs and then later on are dismissive of them:@“ “I was in a different place then….” Etc etc but they don’t suppress hundreds of songs with which people have developed their own relationships.

I mean shit imagine if Tweedy used John’s rationale?


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Re: Bandcamp
« Reply #104 on: February 06, 2025, 04:16:26 pm »
looks very interesting, although it has been rare that I have actually enjoyed any of these collaboration efforts from any artist

I can't think of a single compilation that there is a song where all these greats get together and make something amazing

can you name a few?


The Red Hot series has some great great CDs like red hot Rio, red hot riot, red hot Gershwin, red hot Rio 2 etc

It’s rare though….

This is a wonderful compilation-   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Was_the_Night_(album)