are you kidding me?

[vansmack]

Wait.  When did they let black people in Country Clubs?

[Venerable Bede]

Originally posted by vansmack:
  Wait.  When did they let black people in Country Clubs?

"He wants to appeal to white guilt. You appeal to white guilt not by coming on as black is beautiful, black is powerful. Basically he's coming on as someone who is not going to threaten the white power structure, whether it's corporate or whether it's simply oligarchic. And they love it. Whites just eat it up."
  Ralph Nader

[vansmack]

Karl Rove and Raplh Nader.  Who would have thought they were match made in heaven?

[Mobius]

Originally posted by walkonby:
  Critics of Sen. Barack Obama are trying to build a case that the presumptive Democratic nominee is arrogant, and former Bush adviser Karl Rove is leading the charge.
 
 "He's the guy at the country club with the beautiful date, holding a martini and a cigarette that stands against the wall and makes snide comments about everyone."
 
 

Worst. Analogy.  Ever.
 
 Makes sense on no level.
 
 I would like to hear from Mr. Rove how he justifies a conclusion that the happily married father of two and former constitutional law professor is actually a metrosexual mix between Al Czervik and Ty Webb . . . although that guy also sounds like a good candidate.

[vansmack]

Actually he sounds a lot like me (save for the cigarette).
 
 I would never go to a country club, but you can bet your ass that if I did, my date would hot, I would stand in the corner with a drink, and I would ABSOLUTELY make fun of everybody in the place.
 
 I do the same when I go to a bar, so it's par for the course.

[sweetcell]

"He wants to appeal to white guilt. You appeal to white guilt not by coming on as black is beautiful, black is powerful. Basically he's coming on as someone who is not going to threaten the white power structure, whether it's corporate or whether it's simply oligarchic. And they love it. Whites just eat it up."

that's the most moronic, self-serving thing i've read in a while.  so black politicians have two options?  either come across as black-is-beautiful, and not "appeal to the whites", or use any other position (i.e. forget race and deal with the real issues), and thus they're suck-ups to whites? damned if you do, damned if you dont?
 
 he's not appealing to white guilt - he's appealing to people's economic preferences, or foreign policy preferences, or leadership style preferences... why boil it down to race?
 
 why. does. every. fucking. thing. about. obama. have. to.  
 
 be.
 
 about.
 
 
 race.
 
 yes, i'm a foreigner.

[TheREALHunter]

Originally posted by sweetcell:
   

"He wants to appeal to white guilt. You appeal to white guilt not by coming on as black is beautiful, black is powerful. Basically he's coming on as someone who is not going to threaten the white power structure, whether it's corporate or whether it's simply oligarchic. And they love it. Whites just eat it up."

that's the most moronic, self-serving thing i've read in a while.  so black politicians have two options?  either come across as black-is-beautiful, and not "appeal to the whites", or use any other position (i.e. forget race and deal with the real issues), and thus they're suck-ups to whites? damned if you do, damned if you dont?
 
 he's not appealing to white guilt - he's appealing to people's economic preferences, or foreign policy preferences, or leadership style preferences... why boil it down to race?
 
 why. does. every. fucking. thing. about. obama. have. to.  
 
 be.
 
 about.
 
 
 race.
 
 yes, i'm a foreigner. [/b]

I'm surprised that the media still gives Ralph Nader's wackjob ass any credibility.

[walkonby]

is there any sport anymore that is not tainted with drugs?  i guess the owner forgot to give big brown his daily "boost" to win the triple frown.

[walkonby]

two senators are backing an anti-gay, amendment to the CONSTITUTION of our country (where all men are created equal) that will say marriage is only between a man and a woman.
 
 these two senators are:
 
 larry craig - compared louisiana to iraq after katrina, "full of corruption and fraud."  likes to have sex with men in bathrooms, but is "not gay" and will do anything to stop all gays.
 
 david vitter - replaced another senator who was disgraced by a sex scandal, where vitter stated that it was a prime example why pres. clinton should be impeached.  a devoted christian, devoted husband, father of three, and loves to screw hookers with cover-up money.  he compared homosexual marriage to hurricane katrina, where he and g. bush denied the rebuilding of low income housing to replace the low income housing which was destroyed.
 
 nice.

[nkotb]

It says "all men" not "all queens."
 
 Of course, the above quote was really just to mention that I think I saw you at the Breeders show, and began shouting "WALKONBY" at you as you walked past me.  Then the guy turned around to look at me and I realized it wasn't you.  Only remembering board names can be a real killjoy...and can also get you weird looks.
 
 

Originally posted by walkonby:
  two senators are backing an anti-gay, amendment to the CONSTITUTION of our country (where all men are created equal) that will say marriage is only between a man and a woman.

[walkonby]

Originally posted by nkotb:
  It says "all men" not "all queens."
 
 Of course, the above quote was really just to mention that I think I saw you at the Breeders show, and began shouting "WALKONBY" at you as you walked past me.  Then the guy turned around to look at me and I realized it wasn't you.  Only remembering board names can be a real killjoy...and can also get you weird looks.
 
   

Originally posted by walkonby:
  two senators are backing an anti-gay, amendment to the CONSTITUTION of our country (where all men are created equal) that will say marriage is only between a man and a woman.

[/b]

i would have loved to see you again at that show.  i honestly looked and wished to meet forumers, but was too frightened to just go up to people, and say "are you on the board?"  some people might take that the wrong way.  next time i will find one of those stupid "my name is" stickers.

[nkotb]

Totally...the first time I "thought" I met the Director, I saw only one black dude at the Stooges show.  He looked like a world's strongest man competitor, with huge ass dreads.  
 
 I decided against walking up to him and saying "uh...are you the Director?" which was good...turns out that is not the Director.
 
 

Originally posted by walkonby:
 i would have loved to see you again at that show.  i honestly looked and wished to meet forumers, but was too frightened to just go up to people, and say "are you on the board?"  some people might take that the wrong way.  next time i will find one of those stupid "my name is" stickers.

[Frank Gallagher]

Originally posted by sweetcell:
   

"He wants to appeal to white guilt. You appeal to white guilt not by coming on as black is beautiful, black is powerful. Basically he's coming on as someone who is not going to threaten the white power structure, whether it's corporate or whether it's simply oligarchic. And they love it. Whites just eat it up."

that's the most moronic, self-serving thing i've read in a while.  so black politicians have two options?  either come across as black-is-beautiful, and not "appeal to the whites", or use any other position (i.e. forget race and deal with the real issues), and thus they're suck-ups to whites? damned if you do, damned if you dont?
 
 he's not appealing to white guilt - he's appealing to people's economic preferences, or foreign policy preferences, or leadership style preferences... why boil it down to race?
 
 why. does. every. fucking. thing. about. obama. have. to.  
 
 be.
 
 about.
 
 
 race.
 
 yes, i'm a foreigner. [/b]

This is America and it's a black thing.

[walkonby]

virgin, i would say stop changing the subject,
 but can we ban air shows?  they kill people.

[Frank Gallagher]

Originally posted by walkonby:
  virgin, i would say stop changing the subject,
 but can we ban air shows?  they kill people.

How about helicopters?...two of the fuckers killed 6 people in Arizona over the weekend.
 
 I had to laugh at Matt Lauer on the Today Show this morning...he called Osama Bin Laden "Obama"!!! Freudian slip if ever I heard one.