Maybe we should just elect Trump president

[walk,on,by]

the trump train, is ending.  off the tracks it is heading.  when your fan base is rebel flag waving, white power screaming, kill all muslims thinking, cracker barrel eating, sister fucking dreaming, nascar and Budweiser living kind of people . . . then you know it ain,t going to last.

[Dejecty-hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl]

you really shouldn't talk about your neighbors like that

[grateful]

the trump train, is ending.  off the tracks it is heading.  when your fan base is rebel flag waving, white power screaming, kill all muslims thinking, cracker barrel eating, sister fucking dreaming, nascar and Budweiser living kind of people . . . then you know it ain,t going to last.

I read this in a Yoda voice. It was excellent.

[grateful]

"...going to last it ain't"

[Relaxer]

Just in time for the autumn equinox on Wednesday, the Summer of Trump may be waning. Two surveys are now out with samples entirely postdating GOP debate #2. The fraction of GOP voters willing to go with outsiders who have never held office (Trump, Carson, Fiorina) still adds up to over 50 percent, but they have redistributed a bit.

Considering Fiorina?s problems with accuracy and her dismal performance as Hewlett-Packard?s CEO, it seems likely that her rise will also be transient. If 2012 is a guide, she will last one or two months then fade, just as Cain, Gingrich, Santorum, and Bachmann did.

Walker?s fallen below 2% and Jeb! is stuck around 8%. Assuming those trends persist, the highest-finishing serious candidate is Marco Rubio. As I have said before (link to The New Republic), Rubio is a relatively likely consensus candidate. In the past, the GOP has usually settled on a strong general-election candidate. Rubio polls relatively well against likely Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton. If the past is a guide, then at some point party donors/actors and primary voters may fall into line.

[Dejecty-hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl]

I just can not see joe-6-pack republican voting for Rubio in the general
I 'like' him more than most and he is a good candidate, but those people who are excited about trump...are really going to have a hard time doing an about face and voting for Rubio

I swear that I could tell really early on that Romney was going to be the one to go all the way
but I look at this crowd and I know it's not going to be cruz, but that's about it

The Republicans, while I'm sure they are annoyed that Trump is stealing headlines and all the air in the room...he is getting people engaged.  Maybe like watching a car crash and you can't look away
but the viewership is setting records (I think)

So it's good that people are engaged
Let's hope they might actually pay attention and not vote for who has the best Ad team (and wallet)

[hutch]

Rubio is a warmonger.. I can't see how anybody can see past that...What exactly makes him a "good candidate" anyways? The fact he's a good debater and looks like a Latino Ken doll?

I guess if you want boots in the ground in Syria, an invasion of Cuba, he's your man.

[Dejecty-hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl]

What exactly makes him a "good candidate" anyways? The fact he's a good debater and looks like a Latino Ken doll?

exactly!

[hutch]

What exactly makes him a "good candidate" anyways? The fact he's a good debater and looks like a Latino Ken doll?

exactly!

The last thing the country needs is a Republican from the warmonger/neocon faction of the party...maybe I should ask what you like bout Rubio?

By the way Space Freely must be having a tough time between Trump and Carson who seem to be dueling for the anti-muslim vote

[Relaxer]

Rubio seems like a logical in-the-middle man between the establishment guys who are shitting the bed (Bush, Paul, Christie, Cruz) and the maverick upstarts that have no idea what it means to be president (Trump, Fiorina, Carson).

He thinks fast on his feet, looks foreign enough that conservatives can feel good about inclusiveness, and portrays his right-wing tendencies in a soft compassionate context. His negatives are that he looks like he's 14, has a quivery wussy voice, has accomplished the least among the establishment names, and has his rich history/backstory somewhat compromised by the fact that he lied about it and got nailed.

His embellished backstory issue probably won't hurt him too much unless he does something similar. I think there's a narrative of "Rubio is ambitious enough to kill a guy" swirling around him and anything that slides neatly into that story arc will be heartily welcomed by the media and myself.

[hutch]

Rubio seems like a logical in-the-middle man between the establishment guys who are shitting the bed (Bush, Paul, Christie, Cruz) and the maverick upstarts that have no idea what it means to be president (Trump, Fiorina, Carson).

He thinks fast on his feet, looks foreign enough that conservatives can feel good about inclusiveness, and portrays his right-wing tendencies in a soft compassionate context. His negatives are that he looks like he's 14, has a quivery wussy voice, has accomplished the least among the establishment names, and has his rich history/backstory somewhat compromised by the fact that he lied about it and got nailed.

His embellished backstory issue probably won't hurt him too much unless he does something similar. I think there's a narrative of "Rubio is ambitious enough to kill a guy" swirling around him and anything that slides neatly into that story arc will be heartily welcomed by the media and myself.

Pretty good analysis..

I think he could be a threat next year....but like I said..the guy is a warmonger.... the country is sick and tired of war.. a Rubio presidency is a return to the Bush years in the most important issue the Executive  affects: foreign policy.... he'd surround himself with the same neocon bozos and we'd soon enough be committing a new generation of hired soldiers into the next pointless conflict, run up our debt again..

contrary to what the Republicans think the US cannot solve all the world's problems through war.

I shudder at the thought..

[Julian, Bespoke SEXPERT]

He thinks fast on his feet, looks foreign enough that [people] can feel good about inclusiveness, and portrays his right-wing tendencies in a soft compassionate context. His negatives are that he looks like he's 14, has a quivery wussy voice, has accomplished the least among the establishment names...

2008 Obama is running again?

[Dejecty-hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl]

I agree with Relaxer's statements, I honestly have not delved deep into his foreign policy stuff

the fact that he's a major social conservative too, makes it pretty impossible for me to ever vote for him

But he is a very together speaker and can talk off the cuff intelligently
he's got charisma, I'll give you that

[hutch]

He thinks fast on his feet, looks foreign enough that [people] can feel good about inclusiveness, and portrays his right-wing tendencies in a soft compassionate context. His negatives are that he looks like he's 14, has a quivery wussy voice, has accomplished the least among the establishment names...

2008 Obama is running again?

 Obama was always a fairly pragmatic conservative democrat once he got to Washington DC... people just wanted to believe he was very liberal...I don't recall him ever really pandering to the left.... the left just gave him a pass because he could present himself as having been against the Iraq war debacle unlike warmonger Hillary...so they thought "ah ha he is one of us!"


Rubio is a right winger trying to pretend he is not..

I'd say its very different but I hear this comparison all the time but its really based on age, looks, ethnicity, good speakers etc... and not their political alignment or substance...

[Relaxer]

I agree that the prevailing trend among the GOP is to talk tough, but I see this as more pandering to idiots than saber-rattling. All these candidates repeatedly say that Obama fucked up by not taking a stronger position in Syria, Iran, Ukraine, etc. And then they're rightly asked, well Obama has been using sanctions and diplomatic condemnation in these areas, what exactly would you do differently?

And really, I can't remember hearing anyone say "We need 20,000 troops on the ground, with most of them being beloved grandsons from the states of Ohio, Florida and Pennsylvania" or even just saying, I'd go in there with troops. So they want something more than diplomacy but less than troops. Heeeyyyyy, maybe it's time to get those drones out of the attic.

Anyway, I think they're just playing it cute so they can criticize Obama, no matter what. Nothing makes a Republican hornier right now than hearing someone snarl "Do you know what Obama did?" It doesn't even matter what they're talking about.

Candidate: "Do you know what Obama did?"

Typical GOP Crowd: "MUSLIM" "Took away my healthcare?" "Wiped his ass with a dead soldier's coffin flag?" "Put out a new mixtape?" "Took off his pants and sat on a crucifix?"

Candidate: "He had BREAKFAST"

Typical GOP Crowd: "MUSLIMS DON'T EAT BREAKFAST THEY JIHAD" "I BET HE ATE IT WITH HIS MOUTH" "HE HAD SOCIALIST WAFFLES LIKE A SOCIALIST" "Cop-killers always eat breakfast!"

I think the one and only positive result of the W administration is that people now realize that presidents can be lying fucking assholes who go to war for the pure and simple reason that they would like to. And I question whether a President Rubio would have the gravitas and the dickbag to launch a pre-emptive strike on someone.