Kramer goes off Mel Gibson style

[blinksaar]

Originally posted by Surly Bonds:
   

Originally posted by Reod Dai:
  Apparently the hecklers referred to him as a "dumb cracker".  I suppose that's perfectly fine.

And all along I had thought he was a "dumb sheeny".          
 
 On the plus side, maybe now he'll qualify for the Blue Collar redneck comedy circuit..?  "If you use the 'n' word to refer to hecklers of the Afro -American persuasion, you might be a redneck". [/b]

very messed up. anyone know what happened to him??

Originally posted by Alec:
  very messed up. anyone know what happened to him??

           
 
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 I heard he'll be releasing a CD very soon.

[Herr Professor Doktor Doom]

Originally posted by you be pickup:
 He tried to find an awkward parallel between his ugly rant and conflict that has arisen between blacks and whites since Hurricane Katrina.
 
 

Once again, we learn why it's often not a good idea to let professional entertainers try to express serious thoughts.
 
 Seriously, there is no excuse for what he did.  It looks like he just totally snapped.  He should apologize, then STFU for a year or two.  Maybe get some anger managment training.

[allmy$to930]

I am still holding out hope that this drags on for a while with Richards making apologies and excuses and then checking himself into rehab and announcing that he was abused by a priest when he was a child.  
 
 The whole thing shows the fine line between tragedy and comedy.

Hollywood weighs in:
 
 "Thanks, buddy.  I owe you one."  
      -Mel Gibson
 
 "Does he happen to have an underage daughter I can date?"  
      -Woody Allen
 
 "Racism is disgraceful.  What's that?  Excuse me?  This is your child's bed and I don't live here?"
      -Robert Downey, Jr.
 
 "The races need to love one another and wear vials of each others' blood around their necks."
      -Angelina Jolie
 
 "I am me."
      -Ashlee Simpson

Kramer in Blackface

[nova_nola]

As it turns out, the tape picks up when he gets way out of control. Apparently, the folks on the receiving end of the tirade had arrived during the show.  A large, diverse group, that apparently while getting settled and placing drink orders got Richards' attention.  The first n-bomb was dropped well before anyone said anything to him.  A couple of the guys from the audience were on the today show this morning explaining their side.
 
 FWIW and IMHO, this is completely disgusting. I don't agree with use of the n-word by any group of people.  Coming from a Jewish guy, or any flavor really, with that sort of hatefulness behind it is no joke.  There's no "higher good" behind his comments.  He and Gibson deserve each other.  I guess if his antics are helping anyone to consider their own bigotries, that's great, but I can't see this as anything other than hate speech.  Too bad the KKK won't take him in.
 
 

Originally posted by TheREALHunter:
  Looks like the heckler could dish it out but couldn't take it when it was returned.

[nova_nola]

Hmmm, could this be b/c of all of the murders, rapes, and wars associated with the n-word...ya think?
 
 FWIW, I'm not a self-righteous middle class white person, but I do think the word carries a ton of obviously heavy baggage.  
 
 I am a bit righteous...
 
 

Originally posted by Steny Hoyer, Pubic Destroyer:
  SOME people think that a white person using the "n" word is worse than all murders, rapes, and war atrocities combined.
 
 These people are ALWAYS self-righteous middle class white people.

Originally posted by nova_nola:
 I'm not a self-righteous middle class white person, but I do think the word carries a ton of obviously heavy baggage.

Words are harmless vibrations of air.  Sticks and stones may break your bones, but words will never hurt you.  Try shouting words at solid granite.  Is there a noticable effect other than your utter foolishness.
 
 Besides, you DO come off sounding highly self righteous.

[Herr Professor Doktor Doom]

People get killed, arrested, beaten up, and otherwise harmed because of words every day.  Wars begin because of words.  Words are the basic currency of human interaction, and to claim they have no weight or relevance is just ridiculous.
 
 A funny thing about Kramer...  remember that Seinfeld episode where they showed them making the "Show About Nothing," with actors playing all the Seinfeld characters... and the actor playing Kramer was a total asshole?   Now I wonder whether that was actually modeled on the real Kramer...

Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
  People get killed, arrested, beaten up, and otherwise harmed because of words every day.  

That's not because of words.  It's because of bad brain chemistry.  Do you really think that you could rile the Dalai Lama by hurling epithets?

[nova_nola]

Puffs of air, sure.  Harmless...are you joking?  Have you ever heard of verbal abuse?  How about incitement? And have you ever had a broken bone?  If you have not, broken bones do tend to hurt.
 
 Fine, I'll be highly self-righteous...laughing.  You be...well, I don't know.  Who/what are people that scream at granite, think that words don't harm people, and that broken bones don't hurt?  You've suggested fool and since you're the expert in this area, I'll blindly agree.
 
 Hey, this self-righteous bit is fun...
 
 

Originally posted by Surly Bonds:
   

Originally posted by nova_nola:
 I'm not a self-righteous middle class white person, but I do think the word carries a ton of obviously heavy baggage.

Words are harmless vibrations of air.  Sticks and stones may break your bones, but words will never hurt you.  Try shouting words at solid granite.  Is there a noticable effect other than your utter foolishness.
 
 Besides, you DO come off sounding highly self righteous. [/b]

Originally posted by nova_nola:
   How about incitement?

Could you really incite the Dalai Lama into breaking your bones with verbal abuse?
 
 But I'll bet dollars to donuts I could incite YOU into doing something stupid &/or violent.  You're obviously a compleat tool.

[RonniStar]

This Just In:
 
 This isn't the 1st time Michael RIchards has a Mel Gibson Like Incident

[nova_nola]

Thanks for playing, Surly.  Though, I thought I'd get a little more out of you.  Knew you'd be easily baited...just so you know, "sticks and stones...broken bones", I understand.
 
 So what's the point of those words you typed?  Surely Surly, you are doing the best you can to what?  Inflict some damage with your typed puffs of air?  For someone who believes words are harmless, I'm surprised at your response.  Why bother with an attempt at an insult?  "Tool"? Are people really still using that term?
 
 Well, sticks and stones Surly.  Just like you so wisely suggested.  Sticks and stones.  How about you test your theory about words being harmless on someone who thinks you have value?  I'm sure you've got a lot of rocks to play with, but try your thoughts on a real live person and see what you and that unfortunate person gets in return.
 
 Really, thanks for playing. Laughing...
 
 I'm off for a bit of a drive and some turkey.  You enjoy your crow.  Oh, now I'm guessing that you're not going to run off and look up what constitutes "harm" in the dictionary.  You probably won't bother to look up "compleat" either, but let me help ya with the spelling Surly, the letter "a" does not belong.  
 
 But I'll bet dollars to donuts I could incite YOU into doing something stupid &/or violent.  You're obviously a compleat tool. [/QB][/QUOTE]