Lies is trash, it's only got "patience" going for it. spaghetti incident is entirely forgettable - who the hell has listened to it since 1994?
i will continue to defend my hot take that chinese democracy better than those two. it's what a contemporary g'n'r album should sound like. yes it was over-produced and gaudy and wasn't a fraction as good as Appetite... what did you expect? still better than Lies and Spaghetti. but i get it, its hip to exclusively like the old stuff...