Author Topic: Who owned the 1990s?  (Read 7346 times)

hutch

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Re: Who owned the 1990s?
« Reply #30 on: June 09, 2020, 08:47:57 pm »
Critical acclaim and influence
Cultural relevance
Popularity (not just raw sales..)



The above are criteria that come to mind


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Re: Who owned the 1990s?
« Reply #31 on: June 09, 2020, 09:07:05 pm »
90s are a tough call.

Nirvana is a lock. Oasis/Blur is a great call. Pearl Jam was still a formidable act at that point. Metallica sucked but we’re massive.

I’ll go Nine Inch Nails.  3 amazing releases that decade which is more than any of the above acts can claim. Massive Attack can claim this as well, tho.

Their debut came out in 1991.
I think he means they did not start their fecund, legacy-act period until the very end of the 90s. I read it the same way you did at first, too.
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Re: Who owned the 1990s?
« Reply #32 on: June 09, 2020, 10:27:14 pm »
Correct. Thanks for clarifying.

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Re: Who owned the 1990s?
« Reply #33 on: June 09, 2020, 11:32:16 pm »
Jesus Jones.

Jesus Jones, motherfuckering owned, the 1990s. Well, the early 90s.

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Re: Who owned the 1990s?
« Reply #34 on: June 10, 2020, 07:14:27 am »
One take on the 90s

Garth Brooks, 80s Covers and bands with one huge hit owned the 90s. Think Counting Crows, Barenaked Ladies, etc.

or

The 90s are tough one because for the first half of the decade R.E.M., the Beastie Boys and U2 were at the peak of their popularity and could be seen as owning the 90s.

I think the 90s were more about scenes verses individual bands\artists.  You had BritPop, Madchester, Nu-Metal, Grunge, Indie Rock, Alt-Rock, Gangster Rap, EDM, Shoegazer, Lilith Faire, etc, etc etc...

My takeaway is from the 90s I'm still listening to a lot of BritPop, and 90s Power Pop (Posies, FOW, Tommy Keene, Semisonic).

So which 90s scene owned the 90s?  My money is BritPop

p.s. as a sidenote looks a bunch of dudes are just now realizing what Rage Against The Machine have been all about all these years. 
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Re: Who owned the 1990s?
« Reply #35 on: June 10, 2020, 07:31:46 am »
p.s. as a sidenote looks a bunch of dudes are just now realizing what Rage Against The Machine have been all about all these years.
I saw someone whining  "Tom, you lost a fan" because RATM was getting political...almost should go in the Onion thread.  I really has to hurt to be that stupid
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Re: Who owned the 1990s?
« Reply #36 on: June 10, 2020, 07:59:42 am »
Although I hated all of it save for Nirvana, I'm not sure how you could argue that anything other than grunge/alternative ruled the 90's here in the good old USA.

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Re: Who owned the 1990s?
« Reply #37 on: June 10, 2020, 08:44:24 am »
I get not liking Nirvana but anyone who doesn’t have them in there either wasn’t there or is in denial

Although it’s likely if it hadn’t been Nirvana it would have been someone else we can’t really say how it would have gone....

I think bands like Janes and Faith no more set it up so somebody like Nirvana would have blown the doors off things

I think britpop is a fuckin joke..just a creation of the British music rags...Oasis are just ripoff artists...Be Here Now is unlistenable

I will take Pulp and Supergrass over Oasis and Blur any time

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Re: Who owned the 1990s?
« Reply #38 on: June 10, 2020, 08:50:59 am »
Surprised nobody thought to mention Fugazi


Repeater came out in 1990

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Re: Who owned the 1990s?
« Reply #39 on: June 10, 2020, 08:55:51 am »
In case my communication was off...Nirvana was the only, or maybe one only a few, grunge/alternative bands i liked in the 90's. They were head and shoulders above the rest for me.

I was into Britpop (New Order, Smiths, Big Audio Dynamite, etc) and to some extent college rock (Replacements, um others but none nearly as much as the Mats) in the 80's...by the time the 90's rolled around, I was tired of "alternative rock" be it British or American, and turned to Americana.

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Re: Who owned the 1990s?
« Reply #40 on: June 10, 2020, 08:58:42 am »
Surprised nobody thought to mention Fugazi


Repeater came out in 1990

As my wife would say, total music snob band. Like Sleater-Kinney, except with angry, ugly boys. Not music mainstream people would like, outside of one or two of their popiest ditties.

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Re: Who owned the 1990s?
« Reply #41 on: June 10, 2020, 09:00:03 am »
I was trying to agree with and support your point


I just can’t win for losing (I hope this is an actual phrase)

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Re: Who owned the 1990s?
« Reply #42 on: June 10, 2020, 09:04:04 am »
Ok - obviously-but you could say the same about the Velvet Underground...


Fugazi/IAN/ Dischord had an outsized influence on the 1990s...Eddie Vedder worshipped them..the DC scene’s tentacles reached into riot girl etc...


If you are just looking at it from the standpoint of who sold more records you’re doing it wrong...everyone agreed Bowie owned the 70s and he hardly sold anything 1975-1979!!

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Re: Who owned the 1990s?
« Reply #43 on: June 10, 2020, 09:19:20 am »
Ok - obviously-but you could say the same about the Velvet Underground...


Fugazi/IAN/ Dischord had an outsized influence on the 1990s...Eddie Vedder worshipped them..the DC scene’s tentacles reached into riot girl etc...


If you are just looking at it from the standpoint of who sold more records you’re doing it wrong...everyone agreed Bowie owned the 70s and he hardly sold anything 1975-1979!!

And my wife *does* say the same thing about the Velvet Underground, lol. Difference is now i'd probably agree with her to some extent about Fugazi, whereas I'll still listen to VU, though I'd rather listen to Luna.

I loved Fugazi when they first came out. You could like them not just because it was cool to like them like it was cool to like Minor Threat, but also because their music was pretty good. But i was in my early 20's. Loud with a little bit of tunefulness was good enough for me then. Now I need hooks with my loud guitars, like the Hold Steady.

I guess it depends on *who* the artists are owning. Yes, Fugazi had an outsized influence on music snobs and other musicians. Same with Velvets and Bowie, though that's harder for me to say, because that was during my Bay City Rollers period. I didn't discover either of them until i became a pseudo music snob.


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Re: Who owned the 1990s?
« Reply #44 on: June 10, 2020, 09:28:57 am »
You call it pseudo music snob I call it having some taste


But it’s a side issue you are introducing as you do all the time which makes it impossible to have a conversation

Focus dude

I believe Fugazi had like a ton of preorders for their stuff...they were bypassing radio, MTV and selling quite a bit...

It’s just not true to say they were a music snob band
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