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ratioci nation

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Politics, Yay
« on: May 20, 2004, 11:23:00 am »
So are brilliant Republicans like Denny Hastert trying to push McCain to be involved in Kerry's campaign?  Would Kerry choosing McCain force more to Nader, or would Dems grin and bear it?
 
 http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/19/mccain.hastert/index.html
 
 
 Hastert questions McCain's GOP credentials
 Senator responds with statement on 'fiscal responsibility'
 
 
 WASHINGTON (CNN) -- In a rare public swipe at a fellow Republican, House Speaker Dennis Hastert on Wednesday questioned the GOP credentials of John McCain, a U.S. senator who has often challenged party orthodoxy.
 
 Talking to reporters, Hastert pretended not to know who McCain was when asked about a recent statement by the GOP senator from Arizona.
 
 As other House GOP members stood behind him laughing, Hastert, R-Illinois, then expressed doubt that McCain was indeed a Republican.
 
 The exchange started when a reporter asked: "Can I combine a two issues, Iraq and taxes? I heard a speech from John McCain the other day..."
 
 Hastert: "Who?"
 
 Reporter: "John McCain."
 
 Hastert: "Where's he from?"
 
 Reporter: "He's a Republican from Arizona."
 
 Hastert: "A Republican?"
 
 Amid nervous laughter, the reporter continued with his question: "Anyway, his observation was never before when we've been at war have we been worrying about cutting taxes and his question was, 'Where's the sacrifice?' "
 
 Hastert: "If you want to see the sacrifice, John McCain ought to visit our young men and women at Walter Reed and Bethesda. There's the sacrifice in this country. We're trying to make sure they have the ability to fight this war, that they have the wherewithal to be able to do it. And, at the same time, we have to react to keep this country strong."
 
 Walter Reed Army Medical Center and Bethesda National Naval Medical Center are two military hospitals in the Washington area.
 
 McCain, a prisoner of war during Vietnam, later released a written statement, taking issue with the spending habits of Republican lawmakers.
 
 "The Speaker is correct in that nothing we are called upon to do comes close to matching the heroism of our troops," McCain said.
 
 "All we are called upon to do is not spend our nation into bankruptcy while our soldiers risk their lives. I fondly remember a time when real Republicans stood for fiscal responsibility. Apparently those days are long gone for some in our party."
 
 CNN's Ted Barrett contributed to this report.

Re: Politics, Yay
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2004, 11:26:00 am »
I think McCain as Dem vp is totally ludicrous.

godsshoeshine

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Re: Politics, Yay
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2004, 11:34:00 am »
wow, denny missed the point entirely...
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ratioci nation

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Re: Politics, Yay
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2004, 11:37:00 am »
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Originally posted by Sacktastic Bag O' Nuts:
  I think McCain as Dem vp is totally ludicrous.
yeah but Kerry doesn't think so

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Re: Politics, Yay
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2004, 11:48:00 am »
Do we know what Kerry thinks of the idea?  I thought it was Joe "Four score and seven years ago..." Biden that suggested the pairing?
 
 
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Originally posted by Sacktastic Bag O' Nuts:
  I think McCain as Dem vp is totally ludicrous.
yeah but Kerry doesn't think so [/b]

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Re: Politics, Yay
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2004, 11:50:00 am »
Russert asked McCain about this VP rumor on Meet the Press Sunday.  McCain said in no uncertain terms that he would not be anyone's VP.  While it may be a strategically good idea to include him on a Kerry ticket, it breaks my heart that Dems consider pandering to the moderates (and beyond) to the extent of including a Rep on the ticket.  Of course, since when was fiscal responsibility eschewed so roundly by Reps...the whole world's upside down, I tell ya!

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Re: Politics, Yay
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2004, 01:14:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Bagalicious Tangster:
  Russert asked McCain about this VP rumor on Meet the Press Sunday.  McCain said in no uncertain terms that he would not be anyone's VP.  While it may be a strategically good idea to include him on a Kerry ticket, it breaks my heart that Dems consider pandering to the moderates (and beyond) to the extent of including a Rep on the ticket.  Of course, since when was fiscal responsibility eschewed so roundly by Reps...the whole world's upside down, I tell ya!
Newsflash: The Dems have been pandering, not considering pandering, to moderates since the Clinton era. Would you like Dukakis (or Carter) back?

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Re: Politics, Yay
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2004, 01:23:00 pm »
newsflash: none of the democratic tickets in that time period had a republican on them, which was bag's point
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Re: Politics, Yay
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2004, 01:23:00 pm »
Personally I would certainly take Carter back; don't know as much about Dukakis.  Bill Bradley is whom I really want.
 
 I didn't say there was *no* pandering, but a Rep on the ticket is pretty extreme pandering...    ;)

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Re: Politics, Yay
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2004, 01:29:00 pm »
<img src="http://www.wonkette.com/images/funny_because_its_true.jpg" alt=" - " />

ratioci nation

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Re: Politics, Yay
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2004, 01:35:00 pm »
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  Do we know what Kerry thinks of the idea?  I thought it was Joe "Four score and seven years ago..." Biden that suggested the pairing?
 
I think it has been widely reported that they are very good friends and talk on a regular basis.  I believe I have read that his campaign has at least investigated it which leads me to believe that Kerry is somewhat interested.

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« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2004, 01:36:00 pm »
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  newsflash: none of the democratic tickets in that time period had a republican on them, which was bag's point
I'm guilty of reading too quickly on that one. Apologies all around.
 
 This ticket won't either. Although the Dem pandering has definitely been on the rise since '80.

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Re: Politics, Yay
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2004, 01:43:00 pm »
speaking of  politics

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Re: Politics, Yay
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2004, 01:45:00 pm »
shite - its a log in site
 
 heres the text
 
 Blog Spat
 
 May 20, 2004
 By John Bresnahan, Roll Call Staff
 
 The denizens of Capitol Hill and the blogosphere are all abuzz about a
 female staffer for Sen. Mike DeWine (R-Ohio) and a webblog she reportedly
 maintained detailing her busy, busy sex life. The tale is now reaching
 critical mass.
 Mike Dawson, DeWine's communications director, said the staffer in question
 has not been fired, as has been alleged. DeWine's staff is looking into the
 matter and deciding what, if any, steps they will take, according to Dawson.
 "People made us aware of this yesterday," said Dawson in an interview
 Wednesday afternoon. Although the staffer in
 question was not at work on Wednesday, "she has not been terminated," said
 Dawson. DeWine's office could offer little information on the issue beyond
 that because it "remains a personnel matter" and is thus a "very sensitive
 area," Dawson added.
 The controversial blog, Washingtonienne, has been deactivated (HOH wants to
 warn readers about pretenders to the Washingtonienne mantle) but fellow
 blogger Wonkette has been on a mission to get the story out. Wonkette's
 editor, Ana Marie Cox, had linked to the now-defunct blog, and it was that
 increased exposure that apparently led to the scrutiny from DeWine's office.
 In her blog, Washingtonienne - who described herself as a staff assistant,
 or "Staff Ass" - wrote about the extensive cast of men she was involved
 with. At one point, Washingtonienne created a helpful "key" so readers could
 keep it all straight. The list included: "X," a "married man who pays me for
 sex" and is "Chief of Staff at one of the gov agencies, appointed by
 [President] Bush"; "QV," her serious long-term boyfriend, but who looked as
 if he was on the way  out; "YZ," her "new office [boyfriend] with whom I am
 embroiled in an office sex scandal"; and "K," a "sugar daddy" who also paid
 her for kinky sex.
 Washingtonienne was full of ribald and hilarious comments about life on
 Capitol Hill before it was cut off. In complaining about her low salary, and
 her wonderment at how other junior staffers could get by on such a pittance
 without resorting to less savory  means to supplement their incomes,
 Washingtonienne wrote: "I am convinced that Congressional offices are full
 of dealers and hos."
 Washingtonienne also spoke of local hot spots, her passion for the UPN show
 "America's Next Top Model," and "getting wasted" and passing out on her
 kitchen floor, which may not endear her to the higher ups in DeWine's
 office.
 As the "Washingtonienne Affair" reaches it denouement, HOH is reminded of
 the controversy surrounding the legendary Diana Davis, a former aide to Rep.
 Mike Rogers (R-Mich.) who was the star of a salacious Vanity Fair article
 back in the fall of 2001. The then-22-year-old Davis was forced out of
 Rogers' office after telling Vanity Fair that she slept with someone because
 he "knew [Rep.] Tom DeLay (R-Texas.)."
 Davis also partied with a bunch of Members on Sept. 13, 2001, two days after
 the worst terrorist attacks in U.S. history, an anecdote that stunned lots
 of people of Capitol Hill.
 Davis resigned after the Vanity Fair article came out in early November
 2001.

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Re: Politics, Yay
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2004, 01:51:00 pm »
And here's apparently the archive of said blog:
 
 http://washingtoniennearchive.blogspot.com/