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Justin Tonation

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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #315 on: June 11, 2024, 05:51:43 pm »
I really do think Biden should be hitting Trump harder right now…mock him...

i suspect they'll get around to that, for now joe & co are still riding the memorial day thing and hitting trump on something that his base (supposedly) cares about:

New Biden ad attacks Trump over past comments about veterans

Well that’s stupid. The time to hit him about being a felon was right when he got convicted.  It’s going to die down and will look a bit desperate later….

It needs to sink in with the MAGA crowd; they need to go through some stages of grief first so that their resolve is weakened. Sentencing next month will reinforce it. Then start hammering.

If just 10% of MAGA turns on him, Trump is toast.
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #316 on: June 11, 2024, 06:17:05 pm »
It's really a shame that only the weakest of the four trials will ever happen, unless Biden wins.

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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #317 on: June 13, 2024, 08:10:58 am »
Geez…Larry Sabato’s latest newsletter….depressing

How is Trump supposedly doing better than 2016 or 2020? I refuse to believe it.

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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #318 on: June 13, 2024, 09:08:30 am »
Geez…Larry Sabato’s latest newsletter….depressing

How is Trump supposedly doing better than 2016 or 2020? I refuse to believe it.

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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #319 on: June 13, 2024, 09:19:48 am »
Geez…Larry Sabato’s latest newsletter….depressing

How is Trump supposedly doing better than 2016 or 2020? I refuse to believe it.
even though I think Biden has done a great job
but feel like he isn't looking as good as himself in 2020 or Hil in 2016

The Maga base is charged....whether that will actually turn into votes is another thing
all focus should be on battleground stages and ignore the other 44

I still can't belive the law and order crowd is lining up to vote for a convicted felon
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #320 on: June 13, 2024, 09:46:56 am »
Geez…Larry Sabato’s latest newsletter….depressing

How is Trump supposedly doing better than 2016 or 2020? I refuse to believe it.
even though I think Biden has done a great job
but feel like he isn't looking as good as himself in 2020 or Hil in 2016

The Maga base is charged....whether that will actually turn into votes is another thing
all focus should be on battleground stages and ignore the other 44

I still can't belive the law and order crowd is lining up to vote for a convicted felon

It's only a felony if they believe it's actually a crime. If he can shoot someone on 6th Avenue and still get their vote, a few white collar crimes certainly don't matter, unless it's a Democrat accused of them.

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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #321 on: June 13, 2024, 09:51:05 am »
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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #322 on: June 13, 2024, 03:45:16 pm »
Yeah, i'm not sure why this is a hard concept for people to get.  It's like the "gotcha" of Republicans railing against the deficit and then exploded said deficit when they're in power.  Just like Biden basically doing everything Trump did with immigration...it's all only bad when it's the other team.

It's only a felony if they believe it's actually a crime. If he can shoot someone on 6th Avenue and still get their vote, a few white collar crimes certainly don't matter, unless it's a Democrat accused of them.

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« Reply #323 on: June 13, 2024, 04:05:16 pm »
Yeah, i'm not sure why this is a hard concept for people to get.  It's like the "gotcha" of Republicans railing against the deficit and then exploded said deficit when they're in power.  Just like Biden basically doing everything Trump did with immigration...it's all only bad when it's the other team.

It's only a felony if they believe it's actually a crime. If he can shoot someone on 6th Avenue and still get their vote, a few white collar crimes certainly don't matter, unless it's a Democrat accused of them.

Is Biden putting kids in cages?

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« Reply #324 on: June 13, 2024, 04:13:31 pm »
I’ve seen this type of crap at sporting events too.  Home fans are all ‘hurray’ when their team scores and then get upset when the other team scores.  Or they say refs suck when their team gets called for a foul, but then have no problem when the opponent is called for the same foul. It’s outrageous. 

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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #325 on: June 13, 2024, 04:16:05 pm »
Well I am curious if under Biden thousands of kids have been separated from their parents?

Also, and I could see it, are people being caged in the same conditions?

Do democrats pay to send illegal immigrants to DC, NYC, Chicago?

I think being a convicted felon will have no impact on his base. That was always a given. It is a cult and as Limbaugh once said “Only Trump can release them”…

But on voters in the middle or undecided or undecided on whether to bother voting for Trump? Yes, I think it will have impact. A lot of voters are older people and they may not quite be as jaded about white collar felonies. In a close election all impact is theoretically determinative. My kid told me Lieberman cost Gore the election in Florida by going after video game manufacturers and instituting the ratings system etc. When the difference is only 547 votes out of millions sure it could be determinative!

I don’t believe the polls at this point. I think Biden will win by a few points but not going to lie that Sabato’s note gave me concern. Biden hasn’t consolidated his base yet. It will happen. The little bit of independents, moderates and undecideds will with go Biden or stay home overwhelmingly. And I don’t think they can count on digging up more of Trump’s base. Those people all voted in 2016 and 2020.

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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #326 on: June 13, 2024, 04:19:27 pm »
Come on! Democrats would never have a convicted felon as their candidate!

Again the whole democrats and republicans are the same shit…

Hunter Biden is not Joe Biden. Is he a nepobaby? Sure but that doesn’t make Joe responsible for him lying on a firm to get a gun. Personally I don’t think much of Hunter but he is not the candidate.

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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #328 on: June 13, 2024, 05:55:23 pm »
Answer all my questions NKOTB. Don’t be selective.

Those are not cages. Plastic pods is what they are called. For sure it’s not a Julian’s America country club.

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Re: The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024
« Reply #329 on: June 13, 2024, 08:49:28 pm »
I alluded to older voters above

https://www.newsweek.com/older-voters-donald-trump-2024-election-polls-1911778

Don’t put stock in polls before Labor Day. It’s just too early. But it’s still worrying to read Sabato.

I realize am posting a link to polls while saying they don’t matter….there’s a lot at stake and it’s hard for even me to ignore the noise
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