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Re: 100 Most Influential Americans
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2006, 11:05:00 pm »
That list is top heavy with female & minority PC picks and weak on frontiersmen, explorers & conquering heroes.  All top influential Americans of historical personage were born in the USA.
 
 Where R:
 
 Stephen Decatur
 Francis Scott Key
 Daniel Boone
 Davy Crockett
 Sam Houston
 Edgar Allan Poe
 Wyatt Earp & Doc Holliday
 George Armstrong Custer
 Kit Carson
 Geronimo
 Douglas MacArthur
 Billy Mitchell
 Neil Armstrong
 Charles Lindbergh
 George S. Patton
 Billy The Kid
 Bonnie & Clyde
 Sitting Bull
 Frederic Remington
 Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid
 Eddie Rickenbacker
 Norman Rockwell
 Clarence Darrow
 Sam Colt
 John Browning
 Jesse Owens
 Eugene Stoner
 Kelly Johnson
 Andrew Wyeth
 Audie Murphy
 Chuck Yeager
 J.Edgar Hoover
 JFK  
 
???
 
 These should not belong near the top:
 John Marshall
 Martin Luther King Jr.
 Woodrow Wilson
 Ronald Reagan
 Andrew Carnegie
 Harry Truman
 Walt Whitman
 Wright Brothers
 Alexander Graham Bell
 Dwight Eisenhower
 Earl Warren
 Elizabeth Cady Stanton
 Henry Clay
 Albert Einstein
 Jackie Robinson
 William Jennings Bryan
 J. P. Morgan
 Susan B. Anthony
 Rachel Carson
 John Dewey
 Harriet Beecher Stowe
 Eleanor Roosevelt
 W. E. B. DuBois
 Lyndon Baines Johnson
 William Lloyd Garrison
 Frederick Law Olmsted
 Margaret Sanger
 Joseph Smith
 Bill Gates
 Horace Mann
 John C. Calhoun
 Louis Sullivan
 William Faulkner
 Samuel Gompers
 William James
 Jane Addams
 James Gordon Bennett
 Sam Walton
 Brigham Young
 George Herman ??Babe? Ruth
 Betty Friedan
 Louis Armstrong
 Margaret Mead
 George Gallup
 Thurgood Marshall
 Benjamin Spock
 Mary Baker Eddy
 Ernest Hemingway
 Walter Lippmann
 Jonathan Edwards
 Lyman Beecher
 John Steinbeck
 Nat Turner
 Ralph Nader
 Richard Nixon

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Re: 100 Most Influential Americans
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2006, 11:43:00 pm »
What about the arts? Jackson Pollock, Andy Warhol.
 How about Sojourner Truth, John Brown, Bela Abzug...

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Re: 100 Most Influential Americans
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2006, 11:47:00 pm »
Actually, the credit for ending the Cold War goes to the Soviets.   By adhering to the principles of Marx and Lenin, they ensured that their system would eventually collapse.
 
 I can't believe how many otherwise intelligent people pander to the mythmaking efforts the Conservos have built about Reagan...
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Re: 100 Most Influential Americans
« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2006, 11:59:00 pm »
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Originally posted by pela123:
  What about the arts? Jackson Pollock, Andy Warhol.
 How about Sojourner Truth, John Brown, Bela Abzug...
You have got to be kidding?  Some of these would be lucky to get in the Top Ten Thousand.

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Re: 100 Most Influential Americans
« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2006, 12:05:00 am »
John J. Pershing
 Admiral Robert Peary
 Bob Hope
 Lucille Ball
 Ray Bradbury
 Jimmy Carter
 
 DWG's just aren't pop with the PC crowd.

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Re: 100 Most Influential Americans
« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2006, 12:32:00 am »
101  Seth Hurwitz
 His 9:30 Club made DC cool, was the preminent place to see live music during the rise of "college" and alternative rock, transformed into the class music club, defined a nation, and enriched the world about half as much as James K. Polk.

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Re: 100 Most Influential Americans
« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2006, 12:54:00 am »
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 [QB] Unless you're talking about another George Orwell, he's not an American. Perhaps you mean Orson Welles?   :p  
Indeed you're right.  My mistake.

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Re: 100 Most Influential Americans
« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2006, 01:22:00 am »
Just adding some that should have been on the list--Some of my suggestions certainly were equally if not more influential than some on the actual list--it just shows who society and history choose to value and celebrate
 
 
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Originally posted by pela123:
  What about the arts? Jackson Pollock, Andy Warhol.
 How about Sojourner Truth, John Brown, Bela Abzug...
You have got to be kidding?  Some of these would be lucky to get in the Top Ten Thousand. [/b]

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Re: 100 Most Influential Americans
« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2006, 11:23:00 am »
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Originally posted by Random Citizen PDX:
 [QB] Unless you're talking about another George Orwell, he's not an American. Perhaps you mean Orson Welles?        :p        
Indeed you're right.  My mistake. [/b]
What's really Orwellian is how the history of Oceania has been rewritten by Thought Police from Minitruth.  Great founders of the land(Washington) have been erased and replaced with communists(MLKJ).
 
 But then again, I suppose it's a good idea after all, as long as it get's us closer to eradicating the enemy of the peeps, the dreaded Emmanuel Goldstein.  We all hate him!

Re: 100 Most Influential Americans
« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2006, 11:51:00 am »
How about:
 
 Carrot Top
 Robert Pollard
 the Hamburglar
 Tyrell Owens
 Weird Al Yankovic
 Jerry Brown
 Tawana Brawley
 Bert and Ernie
 Gabe Kaplan
 Dee Snider

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Re: 100 Most Influential Americans
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2006, 11:54:00 am »
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Re: 100 Most Influential Americans
« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2006, 12:12:00 pm »
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
  Actually, the credit for ending the Cold War goes to the Soviets.   By adhering to the principles of Marx and Lenin, they ensured that their system would eventually collapse.
 
 I can't believe how many otherwise intelligent people pander to the mythmaking efforts the Conservos have built about Reagan...
But would the Soviets actually have collapsed and when would it happen? China is still following the Communist line and they're probably the biggest comer of this century.
 
 I am the last person to defend Reagan, and I also don't understand his deification among conservatives. But there is a legitimate school of thought that says by investing so heavily in defense, especially the Star Wars system, Reagan triggered the Soviets' collapse because they went broke trying to keep up.
 
 That said, there's a Doonsbury strip that has James Baker explaining that exact theory to Reagan, who then asks "Am I really that smart?" (To which, Baker says, "Well sir, we're still trying to find out.") So whether it was intentional or just a by-product of a heavy defense mindset, it did play a big role in the SU falling apart.
 
 I don't think Nixon played a huge role in bring down the Soviet Union. He certainly considered Breshnev an adversary, but no more than Kennedy or Johnson did (and both of these guys had serious run-ins with the USSR, with the Bay of Pigs, Cuban missiles and Vietnam). Nixon had a rep for being anti-communist, but that was based more on his career in Congress and when he was VP.
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Re: 100 Most Influential Americans
« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2006, 12:19:00 pm »
The USA is the new Soviet Union.

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Re: 100 Most Influential Americans
« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2006, 01:10:00 pm »
If country of birth were the issue, then all the founding fathers shouldn't be on the list.  I guess if you get them naturalized, they are yours.
 
 I think the Morman ones are deserved as they have a huge influence on America.  Just not much around here.
 
 I think there should be someone like Chuck Berry on there too, some black artist who crossed the music lines early on.

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Re: 100 Most Influential Americans
« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2006, 01:39:00 pm »
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  How about  John Brown...
did you even read the list???
 
 78 John Brown
 Whether a hero, a fanatic, or both, he provided the spark for the Civil War.
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