Author Topic: Bands that toured too much this year  (Read 9344 times)

alex

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Re: Bands that toured too much this year
« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2006, 10:35:00 pm »
Absolutely not.  As long as people are coming out to their shows, they are getting exposure, and they are getting paid.  There will always be people who missed them the first time who will come out the second time, and on and on.  Especially for bands that don't get much radio exposure, it's a good way to get their name out there and build up popularity.
 
 I've seen Lucero at least four or five times this year between DC, Baltimore and Richmond.  Yeah, there are the regulars out at every show, but at every single one I've heard people talk about how its the first time they've seen them, that they were drawn to them because of people talking about seeing them live.  That gets around and gets more people buying albums, merch, coming to the shows, etc.
 
 So no, I don't think there is such a thing as too much touring, unless you hit one single city that isn't your hometown more than like 5-6 times in a year.  And so far, I don't think any band in this thread is guilty of doing so.

HoyaSaxa03

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Re: Bands that toured too much this year
« Reply #31 on: November 29, 2006, 12:10:00 am »
I would argue that overexposure in music is a huge issue, even if we're talking about "indie" groups hitting the same city 3-4 times in a year or getting way too much deafening hype/publicity rather than, say, a certain john mellencamp song being played 553 times per day in a certain chevrolet ad ... people got pretty sick of hearing about clap your hands say yeah, tapes n' tapes, etc, and a backlash starts ... and i remember a lot of people saying "interpol is here again?!" about a year ago, and they definitely had a backlash (this isn't just from bulletin board chatter)
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Re: Bands that toured too much this year
« Reply #32 on: November 29, 2006, 12:45:00 am »
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa08:
  and i remember a lot of people saying "interpol is here again?!" about a year ago, and they definitely had a backlash (this isn't just from bulletin board chatter)
Then don't go if you just saw them.  How hard is that?
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Re: Bands that toured too much this year
« Reply #33 on: November 29, 2006, 12:49:00 am »
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa08:
  people got pretty sick of hearing about clap your hands say yeah, tapes n' tapes, etc, and a backlash starts ...  
Then don't buy the magazine, read that particular article in the paper, or believe the hype.  You may not be able to control the media, but you can control your intake.  Turn the page, change the channel, turn the dial, click the mouse, hit the back button.....
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Re: Bands that toured too much this year
« Reply #34 on: November 29, 2006, 12:52:00 am »
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Re: Bands that toured too much this year
« Reply #35 on: November 29, 2006, 02:38:00 am »
if you're talkin about being a hypocrite and the like, how many people have bought or toured or listened to anything by Willie Nelson?
 
 I'm just sayin'..
 
 um, with that said can the stones please quit touring? I heard the stage creaking from my room. ty.

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« Reply #36 on: November 29, 2006, 10:35:00 am »
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Re: Bands that toured too much this year
« Reply #37 on: November 29, 2006, 10:45:00 am »
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Originally posted by -kat-:
  if you're talkin about being a hypocrite and the like, how many people have bought or toured or listened to anything by Willie Nelson?
 
 I'm just sayin'..
 
 um, with that said can the stones please quit touring? I heard the stage creaking from my room. ty.
Just a question.  Have you actually seen the Stones anytime recently????  Answer honestly.

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Re: Bands that toured too much this year
« Reply #38 on: November 29, 2006, 10:52:00 am »
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa08:
  people got pretty sick of hearing about clap your hands say yeah, tapes n' tapes, etc, and a backlash starts ...  
Then don't buy the magazine, read that particular article in the paper, or believe the hype.  You may not be able to control the media, but you can control your intake.  Turn the page, change the channel, turn the dial, click the mouse, hit the back button..... [/b]
of course you control your own intake, but you're talking on a micro-level, not a macro-level ... widespread backlashes DO happen from overexposure (including too much touring), both in the indie world and the mainstream music world, and it can be really damaging to a band .... that's the only point i'm trying to make ...
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Re: Bands that toured too much this year
« Reply #39 on: November 29, 2006, 11:35:00 am »
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  There is no such thing as a band touring too much.  This is the worst thread ever.
i second this.  utterly stupid.

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Re: Bands that toured too much this year
« Reply #40 on: November 29, 2006, 11:43:00 am »
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Originally posted by Alex:
  There is no such thing as a band touring too much.  This is the worst thread ever.
you don't think a band can get overexposed? i think interpol definitely did that with the non-stop touring of a year or two ago [/b]
of all the bands listed here....i think i only saw Wolfmother once and Matisyahu once (cause i was working his show).  so i dont think any of them tour too much.
 
   being overexposed, to me, isnt touring too much, its when bandmates get in fights, go to rehab, break up and get back together repeatedly, or get their personal lives splashed all over the news.  Ted Leo tours nonstop every year it seems and i would never call him overexposed!!!!
 
   it comes down to this, each year I go to far too few concerts and there are always bands i miss.  If someone is in the situation that they have seen every band out there and cant find a good show to go to cause they've seen everyone touring, well then you shouldn't really be complaining....go see a movie or a play or something!!!!

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Re: Bands that toured too much this year
« Reply #41 on: November 29, 2006, 01:19:00 pm »
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Originally posted by -kat-:
  if you're talkin about being a hypocrite and the like, how many people have bought or toured or listened to anything by Willie Nelson?
 
 I'm just sayin'..
 
 um, with that said can the stones please quit touring? I heard the stage creaking from my room. ty.
Just a question.  Have you actually seen the Stones anytime recently????  Answer honestly. [/b]
Spending more money for one night than I pay on a $4k medical bill that i got when i totalled my car coming home from a show in a month? fuck no.
 
 Did see U2 at MSG last year as a late birthday present from a friend. Both nights, on the floor, and was simply amazing.

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Re: Bands that toured too much this year
« Reply #42 on: November 29, 2006, 01:43:00 pm »
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa08:
  of course you control your own intake, but you're talking on a micro-level, not a macro-level ... widespread backlashes DO happen from overexposure (including too much touring), both in the indie world and the mainstream music world, and it can be really damaging to a band .... that's the only point i'm trying to make ...
Widespread backlashes happen regardless of the amount of touring and I don't think they're related.  Take Arctic Monkey's, they've played a handful of dates stateside in the past 2 years, yet the backlash from this board and others like it has been amazing.  The reason: "Everytime I open a magazine it's Arctic Monkey's this Arctic Monkey's that - I'm tired of Arctic Monkey's!!!"  That's not the fault of the band, it's the fault of having not very creative writers.  Pitchfork has made a name for itself by being all about the backlash phenomenon.
 
 It all goes back to my previous point - backlash is created by indie cred - when one was the first to discover Arctic Monkey's, they were the shit.  When everyone knows about them, and more often then not, external sources start singing their praises, instantly it's time to hate and the backlash starts.  It becomes less about the music and more about the perception of the band.
 
 Interpol were going to experience backlash regardless of how many times they stopped through DC, NY, or LA.  Catchy tunes on the radio with videos on MTV that high school kids liked doomed them.  Not the constant touring.
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Re: Bands that toured too much this year
« Reply #43 on: November 29, 2006, 02:15:00 pm »
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Originally posted by TheDirector217:
   
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Originally posted by -kat-:
  if you're talkin about being a hypocrite and the like, how many people have bought or toured or listened to anything by Willie Nelson?
 
 I'm just sayin'..
 
 um, with that said can the stones please quit touring? I heard the stage creaking from my room. ty.
Just a question.  Have you actually seen the Stones anytime recently????  Answer honestly. [/b]
Spending more money for one night than I pay on a $4k medical bill that i got when i totalled my car coming home from a show in a month? fuck no.
 
 Did see U2 at MSG last year as a late birthday present from a friend. Both nights, on the floor, and was simply amazing. [/b]
Fine then.  It looks like I can have an educated debate with you, then.  Saw U2 on the floor both nights at MCI.  I agree/I can relate.  It was amazing.  (So amazing, I'm going to see them in Hawaii next Saturday & Pearl Jam's opening.)  Saw the Stones on November 17th in A.C.  3rd time this tour alone.  I'm not gonna try and justify the $400+ price tag, cause it's pretty fuckin' high.  But it's WELL worth it.  There's a reason that people come out in DROVES to pay that shit whenever they tour.  People constantly say "Oh, they're so old."  But no one's ever seen them that says that.  Any time I've come from a show with someone or talked to people after seeing them the 1st time its usually, "Wow! I didn't know they were still THAT good."  Simply put, Mick Jagger's an ageless fuckin' wonder.  They give you 2+ hours at a minimum EVERY show.  And at the age of 63, Mick doesn't stop moving THE WHOLE SHOW.  I'm 28, weigh about 185, and I'm 5'11".  Unless I drink an inordinate amount of Grey Goose, I can't FUCK for two plus hours let alone run around non-stop on a 100-foot stage.  (Sorry, I suffer from Newport respiratory syndrome.)  
 
 Since you've been to a U2 show Kat, you remember how it was festive and what not, but there was a spiritual aspect to it????  Like a spiritual cleansing or some shit of that nature??  U2 shows are like church + rock to the nth degree.  The Stones shows, however, are pretty much the ultimate party.  That's what I love about concerts.  Where else in the fuckin' world are you gonna see a 28-year old black man running around high-fiving 40 & 50-something year old white men & their MILF wives, like old buddies but who are in actuality perfect strangers,  while singing "Jumpin' Jack Flash" off-key as hell?????  At a Stones show.  That's where.  
 
 To sum it all up, the Stones aren't like Dylan (And I love Dylan) is now, who chooses to mumble his way through songs and what not.  For those of you who were at VFest and saw the Who, most people said it was great/borderline amazing. I agree. Well, the Stones are even better than that.  60 year olds aren't supposed to rock like that.  If you ever get the chance, I suggest you go.  Well worth the $400+, and any time from here on out they come anywhere near the tri-state area, they got my money for sure.  It's some fantastic shit for lack of a more elequent terminology . . .

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Re: Bands that toured too much this year
« Reply #44 on: November 29, 2006, 02:59:00 pm »
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 yet the backlash from this board and others like it has been amazing.
really? i havent seen it anywhere, but then again i dont read all the threads, I dont think any backlash has been any greater than the normal amount for a band that is that hyped