Author Topic: Supersize Me  (Read 6711 times)

Supersize Me
« on: May 25, 2004, 10:03:00 am »
Anybody seen it now that it's been out for awhile?
 
 We went on Friday, and unsurprisingly, there was not a single fat person in the audience of about 50. It was like preaching (thought there was little preaching) to the converted. Only a few of us even looked like we had a few pounds to shed.
 
 And the movie? I thought it was very entertaining. Didn't really learn anything, just reinforced a few sad truths. What was really sad was seeing how immersed children are into our junk food culture.

Chip Chanko

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Re: Supersize Me
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2004, 10:32:00 am »
It's weird...while I don't eat fast food on a regular basis and know it's horrible for you I still consider it a treat. Especially Wendy's burgers/fries/frosty or McDonald's breakfast once or twice a year. I probably only have it once or twice a year because that's how long it takes my digestive system to forget what happened the last time I ate it...

Re: Supersize Me
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2004, 10:37:00 am »
I guess my lowbrow "treats" are going to Waffle House a few times a year.
 
 If I'm going to indulge in high calorie food, I tend to want better quality stuff, along the lines of Ben and Jerry's...
 
 
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Originally posted by Chip Chanko:
  It's weird...while I don't eat fast food on a regular basis and know it's horrible for you I still consider it a treat. Especially Wendy's burgers/fries/frosty or McDonald's breakfast once or twice a year. I probably only have it once or twice a year because that's how long it takes my digestive system to forget what happened the last time I ate it...

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Re: Supersize Me
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2004, 10:40:00 am »
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  I guess my lowbrow "treats" are going to Waffle House a few times a year.
mmmmmm.....scattered and smothered, please.

Re: Supersize Me
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2004, 01:47:00 pm »
Savage Love
 by Dan Savage
 May 25th, 2004 12:50 PM
 
 
 
 Q. You hate-spewing, body-image-fascism-promoting asshole. I'm a large woman. I read your two incredibly offensive columns about "girl love handles" and the supposed "health risks" of obesity. How dare you oppress women, large and small, with your judgments! Maybe if you enjoyed putting something in your mouth every once in a while that wasn't cock, Mr. Skin and Boners, you would see things differently. At least food is supposed to go in our mouths. Why don't you try swallowing something that wasn't shot down your throat sometime? Food, it's what's for dinner. â??LARGE AND ROYALLY DISGUSTED ABOUT SAVAGE'S SERMONS
 
 A. You neglected to include a sign-off, forcing me to create one for you. I tried to create one that captured the spirit and tone of your letter, and I think I did pretty well. Too bad about the acronym, though, huh?
 
 Secondly, I'm sick of talking about GLH and the obesity epidemic. I would love to move on, but the mail keeps pouring in. Some is from folks who've got my back (thanks, gang), but most is from ticked-off women like LARDASS here. As of this writing, I've received exactly 10,547 pieces of e-mailâ??that's the actual tallyâ?? complaining that my refusal to take the self-esteem-boosting/public-health-shredding position that you can be obese and healthy somehow oppresses women. Interestingly enough, I haven't received a single e-mail about how, say, the Food and Drug Administration oppresses women.
 
 In December the FDA's Reproductive Health Advisory Committee voted 23 to four in favor of making Plan B, the "morning after" birth control pill, available to women, large and small, without a prescription. Plan B is emergency contraception, and women who've had a condom break on 'em or engaged in drunken unprotected sex need to be able to get their hands on it quickly. Plan B is not "regular" birth control, meaning it can't take the place of the pill or condoms. But it is a safe and effective backup that prevents a woman from ovulating or, if a fertilized egg is already present, prevents it from attaching to the wombâ??the fate of half of all fertilized eggs anyway. Plan B is available to women in 100 nations and sold over the counter in 33.
 
 Despite the recommendation of its expert panel, in May the FDA announced that it would not make Plan B available without a prescription. Why? The Bush-appointed asswipes running the FDA claimed they were concerned that Plan B couldn't be used safely by girls between 11 and 15. (Pregnancy at 11, however, girls can handle fine.) By that standard, members of the FDA's expert panel pointed out, no drugs would be available to anyone without a prescription. You can overdose and die on Tylenol, for crying out loud. The real reason the Bushies don't want women to get their hands on Plan B is that they don't want womenâ??young or old, large or smallâ??to be able to control their own reproductive systems. That's oppression, no?
 
 Sorting through 10,547 outraged e-mails, I couldn't help but wonder how many of you took the time to write the FDA and complain about the Plan B decision. If you did, good for you. If you didn't, make amends for obsessing about how my column allegedly oppresses women by calling the FDA on their actual oppression of American women. Call the bastards at the FDA at 1-888-463-6332, or e-mail them via the FDA's website (fda.gov). But considering that the FDA is currently in the hands of Bush-administration appointees (read: Jesus freaks and Bible-thumpers), your time might be better spent sending letters to your representatives in the U.S. House and Senate, which you can do via house.gov and senate.gov. And god bless Canada for being so sensible. Days after the FDA refused to approve Plan B, their government announced that Canadians will soon be able to enjoy over-the-counter Plan B along with gay marriages, socialized medicine, and decriminalized pot.
 
 
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 Q. How dare you spew your hateful bile! Speech like yours causes violence toward fat womyn. I'm a glorious five feet two and weigh a beautiful 450 pounds. My sisters and I apologize to no one for our looks. We were born this way. The hate must stop! â??BIG WOMYN
 
 A. You were born five feet two, 450 pounds? Did your mother burst like a seedpod? Christ! I am thoroughly annoyed at having my tame statements of factâ??being heavy is a health risk; rolls of exposed flesh are unsightlyâ??characterized as "hate speech." (Particularly by people who, like LARDASS, fill their letters with juvenile taunts about my burning hunger for cock.) Perhaps the problem here is that LARDASS and BW lack perspective. My comments only seem hateful to people who haven't read anything truly hateful about fat. Something like, say, this letter from a Brit:
 
 
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 Q. From a European perspective, it is baffling and hilarious to read the vitriolic, pious, unhinged views that the whole fat "thing" provokes in the U.S.A. To all but a tiny handful of Europeans it is so self-evident as to preclude debate that being above about a size 16 (which translates to a size 10/12 in the U.S., I believe) makes you a lardy, lazy, ugly, unhealthy, sweaty, smelly, unfuckable, unwanted piece of soon-to-die-early shit. Babies in prams will cheerfully tell you this. Their parents will fail to reprove them for it. Even the sensible fatties grin and fess up. "Just love food," they'll tell you. "Know it's killing me, but hey. Life sucks." I smoke 20 fags a day but I don't feel the need to convince the world that I'm actually a sweet-smelling, enlightened, nonaddicted, attractive, healthy guy. I'm a smelly, sick addict on the way to a coronary. Wish it weren't so, but hey. Life sucks. Only myself to blame. The problem in the U.S. isn't that people are fat (which they undeniably are: I've never seen such a collection of sweaty porkers), but that they're so goddamn crazy and angry about being fat. â??SMELLY UNITED KINGDOM SMOKER
 
 A. First, let the record show that I disagree with almost everything in SUKS's letter. That's hate speech and I condemn it. Roundly. Uh . . . soundly. Second, presuming they didn't both die of strokes as they read SUKS's letter, I hereby invite LARDASS and BW to write SUKS angry lettersâ??letters which I will happily forward directly to him after you copy to me the angry letters you sent to the FDA about the Plan B decision.
 
 
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 Q. To hell with people complaining about fat people and fat people complaining about people complaining about them. I read your column for the freaky shit! Bring me the piss-guzzling, diaper-wearing, leather-clad horsemen! â??DOCTOR ODD
 
 A. I agree, so the fat subject is closed. As for piss-guzzling, diaper-wearing, leather-clad horsemen, we aim to please: Check out boytaur.net for a nice selection of horsemen and boys. None are guzzling piss, wearing diapers, or clad in leather, but I think you'll find them plenty freaky.

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Re: Supersize Me
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2004, 02:02:00 pm »
Saw it when it first hit.  All I can say is that Big Mac man is the counterpoint.  Eat in moderation and smartly and you can survive Mc D's with a healthy life.  
 
 Best part is I went to McD's for the first time since the movie (I go about 4 times a year), and they still had the Super Size for 80 cents (Laruel Mc'D's on Rte 1).  I guess they said they got rid of it except where they didn't.

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Re: Supersize Me
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2004, 02:26:00 pm »
Wait - if I eat 5,000 calories a day and don't exercise, I'll get fat?  
 
 And this is news to some of you?
 
 Oh wait, if eat 5,000 calories and it's McDonalds only and I don't exercise, I'll get fat.  
 
 Sorry, but I don't see a difference.  Somebody try it at the Olive Garden and tell me what happens - that may be newsworthy to some of you, but I'll be you get fat.
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« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2004, 02:32:00 pm »
I agree. I don't think the point of the film was to pick on McDonald's specifically.
 
 
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  Wait - if I eat 5,000 calories a day and don't exercise, I'll get fat?  
 
 And this is news to some of you?
 
 Oh wait, if eat 5,000 calories and it's McDonalds only and I don't exercise, I'll get fat.  
 
 Sorry, but I don't see a difference.  Somebody try it at the Olive Garden and tell me what happens - that may be newsworthy to some of you, but I'll be you get fat.

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Re: Supersize Me
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2004, 02:34:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  I agree. I don't think the point of the film was to pick on McDonald's specifically.
 
   
But McDonalds was used to sell tickets.
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Re: Supersize Me
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2004, 02:52:00 pm »
well, i haven't seen it, but just because you know how a movie turns out doesn't mean it can't be entertaining
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« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2004, 01:56:00 am »
I get nauseaous every time I hear or read something about this movie. Haven't eaten at a McDonald's for many years. Even then, I tend to stick with the plastic milk shakes. Personally, I hate fast foods. With that said, can't say that my diet is the greatest but I do tend to avoid grease. But if I let myself, I could get fat by eating only healthy foods if I allow myself to go hog wild.

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Re: Supersize Me
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2004, 09:44:00 am »
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  I agree. I don't think the point of the film was to pick on McDonald's specifically.
 
Of course it was.  McDonalds is one of those buzzwords like "Starbucks" and "WalMart" that appeals to the liberal elitists who believe that (other) people are too stupid to make their own choices.

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« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2004, 09:48:00 am »
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  Wait - if I eat 5,000 calories a day and don't exercise, I'll get fat?  
 
 And this is news to some of you?
 
 Oh wait, if eat 5,000 calories and it's McDonalds only and I don't exercise, I'll get fat.  
 
 Sorry, but I don't see a difference.  Somebody try it at the Olive Garden and tell me what happens - that may be newsworthy to some of you, but I'll be you get fat.
yeah, you'll get fat on 5K a day pretty much no matter what, unless you were an elite athlete or farm worker, but if you ate healthier pastas, breads and salads (using the OG as an example) you'd probably not be bordering on liver failure and have cholesterol and triglycerides through the ceiling
 
 additionally, it might not be as easy to put away 5K of healthier foods because they would be more filling and satisfying, and you'd certainly be getting more nutrients with your calories
 
 I don't think he was just picking on McDonalds, he used the company because it is an icon
 
 and, nobody said it was "news"...just a movie

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Re: Supersize Me
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2004, 09:51:00 am »
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
   
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  I agree. I don't think the point of the film was to pick on McDonald's specifically.
 
Of course it was.  McDonalds is one of those buzzwords like "Starbucks" and "WalMart" that appeals to the liberal elitists who believe that (other) people are too stupid to make their own choices. [/b]
in this case , some people *are* too stupid to make their own choices (or too addicted or they just don't care)...but I don't say sue McDonalds and take away their choices, I say let them get smarter or let them rot in their state...it's just unfortunate for all of us that the healthcare system has to pick up the slack and that I have to walk behind them in the crowded metro

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« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2004, 11:12:00 am »
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Originally posted by Chip Chanko:
  It's weird...while I don't eat fast food on a regular basis and know it's horrible for you I still consider it a treat. Especially Wendy's burgers/fries/frosty or McDonald's breakfast once or twice a year. I probably only have it once or twice a year because that's how long it takes my digestive system to forget what happened the last time I ate it...
Greasy dead cow with fries so soaked in WD40 they ooze the shit when you squeeze them a treat!!!!  ;)  but I don't eat fast food, unless you consider Baja Fresh fast food, each to their own though....but a TREAT? Come on! Convenient when you're in a hurry maybe, but how can you call it a treat?