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[HomesickAlien]

Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
   

Originally posted by HomesickAlien:
  And walking??? You don't know that neighbourhood, do you??

Clearly, I know it better than you, Alien. [/b]

Why, do you live there? I was told by so many people that I shouldn't walk through this area at nighttime and I am sure I am not going to do it.

[jkeisenh]

Originally posted by HomesickAlien:
 

Why, do you live there? I was told by so many people that I shouldn't walk through this area at nighttime and I am sure I am not going to do it. [/b]

Duh.  
 Those many people who so poorly counseled you probably live in the suburbs and are afraid of Black folks.  And maybe you are too.  But the neighborhood is just fine.

[sonickteam]

I wouldnt be scared to walk around in that neighborhood.
 
   but i guess its different if you are a girl (or can be, yes, chimbles, i know you're a girl)
 
   also, if you are really afraid, just wait til the shows over and leave, i cant see there being a mugging as 1000 people leave the club.
 
   the breakins probably only happen cause people know its a bunch of suburbians who are all inside a loud club.....car burglars and muggers are generally different sorts of people...

[ggw]

Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
 But the neighborhood is just fine.

13 murders, 24 sexual assaults, 740 robberies, 593 aggravated assaults, 680 burglaries, 3,383 larcenies, 1,159 stolen cars, and 11 arsons in the neighborhood last year.
 
 It is getting better -- through March of this year there have only been 124 assualts with a deadly weapon in the third district - eight percent less than the same period last year!!

[jkeisenh]

don't be such a snark, ggw, those #'s are for the ENTIRE third district, which covers about 5 neighborhoods, of which I would argue the area surrounding 930 is among the best.  That includes, say, Shaw, and Petworth, and...
 
 but that's ok.  post statistics without explaining what all they cover.  it's sure to convince people that their fears are based on some twisted reality instead of sheer racism.

[ggw]

Are you trying to say that the statistics are fakes created by frightened white suburbanites? Or is "crime" really a "code word?"
 
 The MPD - unfortunately - doesn't provide any further breakdown.  The Third District also covers some relatively toney neighborhoods.

[jkeisenh]

i'm saying that you can't claim that happened in a 10-block radius of the club-- or anywhere near it-- when those stats are for 1/7 of the city, parts of which really are in sketch neighborhoods.  those numbers aren't representative at all.

[ggw]

If you have some better numbers, throw them out there.
 
 There are more violent crimes in the Third District alone than in the entirety of Fairfax County.  
 
 

Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
  i'm saying that you can't claim that happened in a 10-block radius of the club-- or anywhere near it-- when those stats are for 1/7 of the city, parts of which really are in sketch neighborhoods.  those numbers aren't representative at all.

[HoyaSaxa03]

homesick, you've been told this by people who are afraid of urban environments where black people hang out ... the area around 930 club is a college town (howard) and nightlife central (upper U street)
 
 statistics aside, it's no less safe than any other neighborhood in DC ... scattered muggings and robberies occur everywhere, even in lily-white areas like georgetown and cleveland park (where someone was just stabbed for their ipod)
 
 i'm sure these same people would tell you not to worry at all while walking around georgetown alone at 3am, but it's the same damn situation, just keep your wits about you.

[jkeisenh]

ok, why don't you go open a club in fairfax county then?  i really don't see the relevance.

[ggw]

Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
 i really don't see the relevance.

The relevance is your bullshit accusation that HomesickAlien is only concerned because he's been misled by white suburbanites who are afraid of black people.  
 
 Do you know HomesickAlien?  Have you ever met him?  Do you know who is friends are?  Or what they may have told him?
 
 I guess it doesn't really matter. If someone dares to express any concern about the city, you can just blame it on their racism.  
 
 Real nice....

[HoyaSaxa03]

i think the point is that people unfairly tag the u street area as "dangerous" as compared to lily-white areas of DC like georgetown, cleveland park, and foggy bottom.
 
 as a resident of georgetown for 4 years, i can tell you there were countless muggings, shootings, sexual assaults and all the rest.
 
 people who don't really know the city think of georgetown as "white" and "safe" and u street as "black" and "dangerous" ... which is just plain wrong ... you disagree?
 
 

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  If you have some better numbers, throw them out there.
 
 There are more violent crimes in the Third District alone than in the entirety of Fairfax County.  
 
   

Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
  i'm saying that you can't claim that happened in a 10-block radius of the club-- or anywhere near it-- when those stats are for 1/7 of the city, parts of which really are in sketch neighborhoods.  those numbers aren't representative at all.

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[ggw]

Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
  homesick, you've been told this by people who are afraid of urban environments where black people hang out

You people with your knee-jerk "Oh, he's just afraid of black people" reactions, crack me up.

[jkeisenh]

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
 
 Real nice....

It's always my goal, you know, to be nice.
 
 ggw, this conversation is about someone who doesn't live here trying to tell us, who do, that our neighborhood is unsafe.  and us using our brains and experiences to dispel the myth.
 and then you throw completely irrelevant statistics out there-- irrelevant because their scope is way larger than the area in question.
 
 i'm defensive of my city.  i like my city.  i like living here and working here and biking here and drinking here and walking here... and i take offense when people who don't know what they're talking about trash my city.

[sonickteam]

why are chimbly and hoya so quick to call people racists???  i mean, hoya does it all the time!!  just because someone tells me some neighborhood is bad, and i believe them, doesnt mean i am a racist.  
   
   I can read the whole thread again, but i dont think anyone but you two brought up anything about black or white.  
 
   you know, just because you moved to the city for college and have been here since does NOT mean you are a hardened city dweller.
 
   your redneck past is nipping at your heels...