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vansmack

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Rokr like a hurricane...
« on: September 07, 2005, 02:59:00 pm »
Apple unveils iPod phone hybrid
 
 As expected Apple has unveiled a gadget that combines its hugely popular iPod music player with a mobile phone.
 
 Announced by Apple boss Steve Jobs the device will be able to store about 100 songs and play them out randomly like the iPod Shuffle.
 
 Developed by Motorola for Apple the gadget, dubbed Rokr, will first be available on the network of US mobile operator Cingular.
 
 Since it was introduced in 2001, Apple has sold more than 21 million iPods.
 
 Mobile music
 
 The colour-screen gadget is silver, has stereo speakers and has a VGA quality camera onboard.
 
 A version of Apple's iTunes music store has been developed for the phone so users can manage the tracks they store on it. Smart software on the handset pauses music if a phone call comes in.
 
 Tunes are downloaded to it via a USB cable and users can fill it manually or use autofill to populate it with pop. The gadget is due to go on sale in Cingular stores from 8 September and is expected to cost $249.99 (£136). Buyers must commit to a two-year contract.
 
 
 The Rokr phone is expected to be available in the UK and Europe in late September.
 At the time of the announcement there was no information about whether music can be downloaded only via a cable or via the airwaves as well.
 
 Madonna is reportedly fronting the publicity campaign to advertise the phone. In a related announcement all Madonna's music is now available on the iTunes store.
 
 As well as showing off the Rokr phone, Mr Jobs unveiled a new version of iTunes and a smaller version of the music player called the iPod nano.
 
 Long wait
 
 Plans for the Rokr gadget were first unveiled in July 2004 and it was originally scheduled to be unveiled at the Cebit technology fair in Hanover, Germany in March 2005.
 
 Big hints that the phone was going to be unveiled on 7 September were given by the fact that Apple, Motorola and Cingular all planned press conferences for that day.
 
 Apple is keen to replicate the success it has had with the music-only iPod sales of which, in recent quarters, has been responsible for the biggest share of its profits.
 
 However, the ultimate success of the device may rest on factors that Apple cannot control.
 
 For instance, it is likely that owners will only use them to play music downloaded into the gadget from a computer.
 
 This is because most mobile operators charge by the megabyte so downloading a track while out and about would add a premium that most would be unwilling to pay.
 
 It might take time for mobile operators to change data pricing regimes which would help to convince consumers that downloading is worth it.
 
 Download charges are likely to be one of the few ways that phone firms can recoup some cash from selling iTunes phones. Most of the money paid to buy songs from iTunes goes to record labels, Apple and payment processing firms.
 
 The time it takes to download a song might affect the popularity of such services. Most Europeans and Americans are on phone networks that shunt data around at a theoretical maximum speed of 170 kilobits per second. Actual rates are much lower which would make downloading a multi-megabyte song a trying experience.
 
 Without good deals on downloading, Apple may find it hard to convince existing users of iPods to buy another gadget. And with the iPod proving so popular entirely new customers may be scarce too.
 
 Also Apple is coming slightly late to the market for music on mobiles. Many other handset makers and operators are already pushing services that combine the two.
 
 Story from BBC NEWS:
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/technology/4223938.stm
 
 Published: 2005/09/07 18:50:06 GMT
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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2005, 03:02:00 pm »
And This: http://www.apple.com/ipodnano/
 
 Take everything you love about iPod and shrink it. Now shrink it again. With 2GB (500 songs) and 4GB (1,000 songs) models starting at $199, the pencil-thin iPod nano packs the entire iPod experience into an impossibly small design. So small, it will take your music places you never dreamed of.
 
 Believe Your Ears
 
 Call it astonishing. Unbelievable. Impossible, even. Then pick it up and hold it in your hand. Take in the brilliant color display. Run your thumb around the Click Wheel. Put on the earbuds and turn up your music. That??s when everything becomes clear: It??s an iPod.
 
 It holds up to three days?? worth of music. It plays for up to 14 hours between battery charges.(1) It displays the color album art for the song you??re listening to right now. It carries your photos, podcasts and audiobooks. It syncs seamlessly with iTunes. It connects to a host of iPod accessories. Simply put, iPod nano is 100-percent iPod. And then some.
 
 Touch and Go
 
 iPod nano??s Click Wheel puts music under your thumb. Click to fast-forward, rewind, play, pause or access menus. Use the touch-sensitive surface to control volume or browse music. You can do it all without looking. But with an iPod this beautiful, who??d want to?
 
 Song Stylings
 
 Add accessories to your iPod nano via the Dock connector and headphone jack and your music will always keep up with you ?? at home, on the go, even in your car. Of course, in either signature white or sleek black, iPod nano itself makes the ultimate accessory.
 
 Up to 4GB(2) of skip-free storage on a featherweight iPod means you can wear almost three days?? worth of music around your neck. Or jog with 1,000 songs on your arm. Now that you can take your music everywhere, there??s no limit to where it will take you.
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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2005, 03:03:00 pm »
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2005, 03:13:00 pm »
no more mini's on the web page. . are they not gonna sell them anymore??
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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2005, 09:17:00 am »
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  iPod nano
this looks interesting ... if god forbid i lost or broke my ipod, i think i would go for a lower capacity ... i usually just end up listening to the intuitive "radio stations" that i've set up anyway, and they're never more than 500 songs or so, i could just store a few of the stations on one of these ...
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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2005, 09:24:00 am »
It??s official: ROKR E1 iTunes phone can only store max. 100 tracks
 
 Motorola and Apple were masterfully oblique about this during yesterday??s press conference, and oddly enough there??s zero mention of the issue at all in any of the press releases we??ve seen, but we double checked with Motorola last night and got them to officially confirm that no matter big of a memory card you have, you can only transfer a maximum of 100 tracks to the new ROKR E1 iTunes phone. Our sources at Moto tell us that Apple had originally insisted on a completely ridiculous 25 song cap because of ??licensing issues?, and that the current 100 song limit was the compromise number they settled on. We prodded Motorola CEO Ed Zander about this at last night??s launch event and his response was simply, ??Ask Apple.? Ironically, the ROKR E1 has a generic, non-iTunes, Java-based media player that can play as many MP3s as you have room for on your card.

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« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2005, 09:55:00 am »
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Originally posted by Chip Chanko:
  It??s official: ROKR E1 iTunes phone can only store max. 100 tracks
 
if you get smart about your playlists and hook your phone in every day to update, you should definitely be able to deal with 100 songs ... on my average commute (both ways) i listen to maybe 25-30
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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2005, 10:15:00 am »
nano looks pretty awesome. if i ever get an ipod, that would be the one. don't know about the phone, but i guess that's the next step
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« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2005, 10:18:00 am »
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Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
  if you get smart about your playlists and hook your phone in every day to update, you should definitely be able to deal with 100 songs ... on my average commute (both ways) i listen to maybe 25-30
do you only listen on your commute? so 50 to 60 songs a day? an ipod hardly seems worth it then

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« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2005, 10:21:00 am »
oh and is the nano flash based? as in, would it work well for jogging and such
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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2005, 10:44:00 am »
When I metro I listen to about an album and a half round trip...and I like having many to choose from. Although, if you own and ipod then there aren't many times you would care if you had to carry it AND your phone. I have an ipod and a Nokia 6230b with a 2gb mmc card in it (about 30 albums). I would only use the phone's music player when I'm going out somewhere that I didn't want to carry my bag that always has my ipod in it, which is not very often. So 100 songs that sync's with your pc is not that bad a deal. The java media player in my phone is really annoying compared to the ipod interface but it works.
 
 
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Originally posted by Chip Chanko:
  It??s official: ROKR E1 iTunes phone can only store max. 100 tracks
 
if you get smart about your playlists and hook your phone in every day to update, you should definitely be able to deal with 100 songs ... on my average commute (both ways) i listen to maybe 25-30 [/b]

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« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2005, 10:52:00 am »
yes...it would work really well.
 
 
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  oh and is the nano flash based? as in, would it work well for jogging and such

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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2005, 10:54:00 am »
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  oh and is the nano flash based? as in, would it work well for jogging and such
It is flash, yes.

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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2005, 10:57:00 am »
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Originally posted by p011@rd:
 do you only listen on your commute? so 50 to 60 songs a day? an ipod hardly seems worth it then
exactly ... well, i do bring my ipod along when i go on vacation, to friends houses, etc, so there are definitely times when i like a bigger capacity
 
 but lately i've found myself only listening to these intuitive radio stations i've set up (specific rules about genre + hasn't been played in two months + 4 stars or better + under 7:01), so i could just theoretically just have a little flash based player for it
 
 if you struggle to think of what you want to listen to or create good playlists, i highly recommend doing a smart playlist like that, it cycles music in that you've rated highly but haven't heard in a while, and you never hear the same thing twice in any two month period
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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2005, 11:04:00 am »
fuck yes. might have to start saving my pennies
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