"convenience fees" on concert tickets

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by Shadrach:
  But the fact is most of us are too lazy and or busy to go buy auto parts and then spend a Saturday afternoon thumbing through a do-it-yourself book on how to change brake pads. In most cases we would rather have the "convienience" of having someone else "service" our vehicle.
 

so are you saying we should make our own tickets for shows??

[Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface]

Originally posted by sonickteam4:
  so are you saying we should make our own tickets for shows??

I make my own. I write the all of the pertenant concert information on a cracker with squeeze cheese then when I go, if the bouncer won't let me in, I eat the "ticket to deliciousness." It's a win-win.

[sonickteam2]

i am not sure why i cant stop laughing at that.....

[Driveway]

A couple bucks doesn't bother me... However, $25 fees on Rolling Stones tickets does.  Thank got I didn't get them for me and have already been paid back!

[Shadrach]

Originally posted by sonickteam4:
   

Originally posted by Shadrach:
  But the fact is most of us are too lazy and or busy to go buy auto parts and then spend a Saturday afternoon thumbing through a do-it-yourself book on how to change brake pads. In most cases we would rather have the "convienience" of having someone else "service" our vehicle.
 

so are you saying we should make our own tickets for shows?? [/b]

No, I'm saying that if you are that concerned about the additional charges don't come here and complain that they are impossible to avoid when there is clearly an alternative. Come to the box office and purchase your tickets in person.

[vansmack]

Originally posted by Shadrach:
  Come to the box office and purchase your tickets in person.

But you guys are all so scary with your tattoos, piercings and black clothing at the box office....

[amnesiac]

Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:
   I make my own. I write the all of the pertenant concert information on a cracker with squeeze cheese then when I go, if the bouncer won't let me in, I eat the "ticket to deliciousness." It's a win-win.

LOL...that's some funny shit. That gets my vote for post of the week
 
 Oh, and what kind of bouncer refuses a cracker with squeeze cheese??

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by Shadrach:
   I'm saying that if you are that concerned about the additional charges don't come here and complain that they are impossible to avoid when there is clearly an alternative. Come to the box office and purchase your tickets in person.

yes, you are right. sometimes i bitch because Pop tarts are 75 cents more at the corner store than at the Safeway, but then i think, "didnt have to go all the way to Safeway"  
 
  time is money and money is evil so.....

[hitman]

Originally posted by O'Mankie:
   

Originally posted by Shadrach:
 

These rates are no different than "parts and labor" when your car is worked on. . [/b]

HUH!? Not defending the car business, but when you are charged 'parts and labour' when your car is worked on, it's because some 'parts' were used that had to be purchased and someone who needs to be paid 'laboured' on your car!! A 'convenience' charge is a made up charge to simply get more money out of the punter. [/b]

Difference is that the labor charge, doesn't always reflect the time spent on the job.  The Click & Clack guys just had an article about this a week ago or so.  There is a book that most mechanics use that describes the average amount of labor put into a job.  Now if you are a new mechanic, learning the ropes, this is probably a justifiable number.  However, if you've been doing it for years and year, it probably won't take you the same amount of time for an oil change than a newbie would.  But no matter what, the labor charges are the same throughout.  In some cases, they are even more in higher priced neighborhoods because the feeling is that those people can afford it.  Yet at the same time, there are mechanics who just charge for the amount of time spent on the job, not what the book says.
 
 Overall I can say I don't like charges, but can understand them to a point.  A one time charge is fine, but to loop in three to four different charges is ridiculous.  I know DAR has some nutty fee with a crazy name that I can't think of right now.  But there should be norms to the charges, unlike the Stones reference someone made.  In that case, there were different charges on each price level of ticket.  The higher priced the ticket, the more the fees.  It didn't cost anymore to serve up the higher priced ticket, did it?

[ggw]

Originally posted by sonickteam4:
  time is money and money is evil so.....

...time is evil??

[Frank Gallagher]

Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
   

Originally posted by O'Mankie:
 all car business versions of 'convenience charges'

the more obvious example would be the "destination and delivery charge" of $800 or so [/b]

Actually that's the charges to transport your car, be it from the place of manufacture... Japan, Italy, Germany, Detroit, Korea or even England if you happen to buy a MINI, to the dealership. The reason it is not just included in the price of the car is because that charge is non-taxable...so if you buy a new car and they charge sales tax on the destination fee you can just say, "I don't think so pal", but it is a legitimate charge.
 
 The car bus. version of convenience charge, is the beloved 'doc fee' which is just free money for the dealership that they try to bullshit you with some story about it being administration charges to do all the paperwork.....which would be like the supermarket charging you extra for the check-out person running your groceries over the scanning thingie.
 
 Another comparison to convenience fees would be 'points' in the real estate mortgage game. Now that's a classic scam, they don't even try to give it a believable name!!!!

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
   

Originally posted by sonickteam4:
  time is money and money is evil so.....

...time is evil?? [/b]

weird aint it?

[Frank Gallagher]

Originally posted by hitman:
   

Originally posted by O'Mankie:
     

Originally posted by Shadrach:
 

These rates are no different than "parts and labor" when your car is worked on. . [/b]

[/b]

Difference is that the labor charge, doesn't always reflect the time spent on the job.  The Click & Clack guys just had an article about this a week ago or so.  There is a book that most mechanics use that describes the average amount of labor put into a job. [/b]

Again, not intending to defend the car business, but it is done to standardise the service done on vehicles....imagine if you paid for the actual hours spent by the mechanic and some pesky nut was rusted on that took 4 hours to loosen? I'm sure you'd be pissed off getting a $500 bill to remove rusted nut before the work you car came in for was even started. Sure the hours in the book err on the side of caution, for example, I remember the time allocated to change a bulb on a Ferrari was 2 hours, which took me, a salesman about 3 minutes on a 360. The service manager explained that on a specific model......Testarosa if I remember correctly, you had to take the fender off to get to the light bulb housing so that's why it was allocated two hours. Any dealer worth dealing with doesn't even charge to change a bulb, but that's what the book says.
 
 I may be explaining it wrong, but it's one of those things I understood at the time, but having difficulty explaining it.

[thatguy]

Originally posted by amnesiac:
  Oh, and what kind of bouncer refuses a cracker with squeeze cheese??

four things:
 
 1. we don't have any bouncers
 B. we have a couple of those wacky vegans on staph, so they'd probably say no
 III. i like cheese and crackers
 d. there are only three things

[chaz]

Originally posted by you be betty:
     

Originally posted by sonickteam4:
     

Originally posted by toodles2004:
   there appears to be NO WAY to buy the ticket w/out the fee(s).
 

there is no convenience fee when you pay at the door, the night of the show. [/b]

yeah; but then the show sells out four people before you in line (thanks, ticket brokers) and you are left out in the cold cruel world, smacking the pavement as others strut into the club like kings with their gold-plated chuck taylors and diamond incrusted buddy holly glasses....
 
 seemingly; the only people that can AFFORD the aforementioned ticket charges.
 
 inconcievable! [/b]

For a 15 year old you seem to be able to afford more than your fair share of shows.