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vansmack

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It took this long?
« on: June 29, 2005, 02:33:00 pm »
U2, Green Day Ticket Scam
 Copies of print-at-home tickets fool hundreds of fans  
 
 A new kind of ticket scam left as many as 250 U2 fans without seats when the band opened a sold-out three-night stand at Boston's FleetCenter on May 24th. The fans had purchased computer-printout-style tickets from scalpers, who apparently had run off multiple copies and sold the worthless documents for as much as $2,000 each. "I was just really more bummed out than anything else," says Larry Hite, 25, a marketer for a Boston radio station, who bought two bogus tickets for $400 apiece from a scalper on craigslist.com.
 
 For U2's second night in Boston, 125 fans went home with bogus tickets. Similarly, in April, 118 Green Day fans wound up with fake tickets to a Manchester, New Hampshire, concert; officials at the Verizon Wireless Arena said they'd never seen such a thing before and allowed the fans to buy tickets at their face value, thirty-six dollars.
 
 Counterfeit tickets have been around forever -- the Grateful Dead famously struggled with fakes -- but U2's Boston run took the problem to a new extreme. Ticketmaster's five-year-old ticketFast system allows concertgoers to print paper tickets at home. Like "hard" tickets, the ticketFast versions have bar codes that are scanned at the venue to verify their legitimacy. But the home-produced variety can be copied with nothing more than a Xerox machine. Venues started using bar-code technology in 1994 partly as a way to discourage counterfeiting. It has worked until now; before the U2 shows, FleetCenter officials received a handful of similar complaints per show. "I can't think of a recent incident at this scale," says Ticketmaster executive vice president David Goldberg. "The technology works. It's been incredibly effective in detecting counterfeiting, and where it has been detected, it lessens the impact."
 
 But given the popularity of online scalping, many in the concert industry expect the problem to continue. "When you get that kind of whipped-up demand, the sinister elements are going to try to take advantage," says Jim Delaney, a FleetCenter spokesman. "People seemed in this case to let the 'buyer beware' message go straight out of their mind and to buy a fake ticket." To avoid such problems, Delaney says, fans should always purchase tickets through an authorized source, like Ticketmaster or the box office. Brokers add that fans should demand hard tickets rather than easily altered or copied computer printouts.
 
 Upon leaving the FleetCenter with his girlfriend, Hite noticed an ad for a legitimate broker on the side of a cab. He called and scored two $350 tickets for U2's second Boston show. He spent a total of $1,500 -- but he saw the band. "From what I heard from people who had been sitting by me, the Thursday show was better anyway," Hite says. "So that's the silver lining."
 
 
 STEVE KNOPPER
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thirsty moore

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Re: It took this long?
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2005, 02:34:00 pm »
Call me mint jelly, cuz I'm on the lam!

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Re: It took this long?
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2005, 02:47:00 pm »
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Originally posted by vansmack:
 
 
 Upon leaving the FleetCenter with his girlfriend, Hite noticed an ad for a legitimate broker on the side of a cab. He called and scored two $350 tickets for U2's second Boston show. He spent a total of $1,500 -- but he saw the band. "From what I heard from people who had been sitting by me, the Thursday show was better anyway," Hite says. "So that's the silver lining."
 
 
 
ok new challendge find a work safe picture to illustrate the level of stupidity at work here... and you wonder why american's are considered loathsome... just think of all the extra crap he could bought a wal-mart had he not wasted on these tickets.
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Re: It took this long?
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2005, 02:50:00 pm »
scalpers/brokers = the scum of the earth.
 
 i have no sympathies for what happens to people that support the practice.

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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2005, 03:03:00 pm »
In reality all retailers/store fronts are scalpers brokers. They buy shit at one price and pedal it at a higher price.
 
 If you dont want to pay the price, feel free to go without.

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Re: It took this long?
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2005, 03:07:00 pm »
hahaha! thats what you get for being a bitcha and printing out tickets...

sonickteam2

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Re: It took this long?
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2005, 03:41:00 pm »
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Originally posted by vansmack:
 Delaney says, fans should always purchase tickets through an authorized source, like Ticketmaster or the box office.  
ha! what a brilliant idea. People complain about scalpers and then go buy tickets from them (or vice versa). point is simple, dont buy tickets from scalpers and they'll go out of business!  duh!
 
   oh, but you might have to miss a few of your precious concerts!  :)  
   
   i like when people want problems to be solved without sacrificing or inconveniencing themselves!

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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2005, 03:48:00 pm »
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Originally posted by sonickteam4:
   
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Originally posted by vansmack:
 Delaney says, fans should always purchase tickets through an authorized source, like Ticketmaster or the box office.  
ha! what a brilliant idea. People complain about scalpers and then go buy tickets from them (or vice versa). point is simple, dont buy tickets from scalpers and they'll go out of business!  duh!
 
   oh, but you might have to miss a few of your precious concerts!   :)    
   
   i like when people want problems to be solved without sacrificing or inconveniencing themselves! [/b]
i like people who download the new white stripes album, and don't really care, because they spent x amount of dollars on concert tickets.

sonickteam2

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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2005, 03:52:00 pm »
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  i like people who download the new white stripes album, and don't really care, because they spent x amount of dollars on concert tickets.
oh, you only read part of that post didnt you? go back and read the whole thing....

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« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2005, 03:58:00 pm »
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Originally posted by walkonby:
  i like people who download the new white stripes album, and don't really care, because they spent x amount of dollars on concert tickets.
oh, you only read part of that post didnt you? go back and read the whole thing.... [/b]
i read it, and . . .?  you stole the album as a "preview" because you thought you were entitled to it.  and you think because you bought it later, that that makes up for your carjacking joy ride?   ;)  huggs, sonic

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Re: It took this long?
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2005, 04:20:00 pm »
I am confused.  If they just ran off copies of the originals, and each has a unique code, why can't Ticketmaster determine who was the original ticket buyer and get the police on their ass?  I would guess maybe they used fake credit card information, but even then, I can not imagine Ticketmaster taking a loss on the whole thing.

walkonby

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« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2005, 04:22:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Sir HC:
  I am confused.  If they just ran off copies of the originals, and each has a unique code, why can't Ticketmaster determine who was the original ticket buyer and get the police on their ass?  I would guess maybe they used fake credit card information, but even then, I can not imagine Ticketmaster taking a loss on the whole thing.
who's to say that the scalpers are(n't) working for ticketmaster?

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Re: It took this long?
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2005, 04:24:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Sir HC:
  I am confused.  If they just ran off copies of the originals, and each has a unique code, why can't Ticketmaster determine who was the original ticket buyer and get the police on their ass?  I would guess maybe they used fake credit card information, but even then, I can not imagine Ticketmaster taking a loss on the whole thing.
Why not get legitimate tickets. Scan and then photoshop out your ticket number 666666666, photoshop in number 5555555555.
 
 I bet i could do it in the time it took me to type this.

walkonby

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« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2005, 04:30:00 pm »
so there you go; now we know who's scalping all those tickets.  he even knows how to effectively do it.

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« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2005, 05:37:00 pm »
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Originally posted by walkonby:
  i read it, and . . .?  you stole the album as a "preview" because you thought you were entitled to it.  and you think because you bought it later, that that makes up for your carjacking joy ride?    ;)   huggs, sonic
if the entire purpose of file sharing being illegal is that people arent paying for the music and i downloaded AND bought it, then it makes my downloading the CD completely irrelevant. try to keep up, its not that hard a concept to grasp, even for you.