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[sweetcell]

And that's the best case scenario. I'm sure the Tiger Woods phenomenon is about to start with some suspicious spouse locating that file on a hard drive on their own and putting together a juicy story to take to a divorce lawyer.  No subpoena needed now...
 

speaking of no subpoena needed: http://apple.slashdot.org/story/11/04/19/2231240/Michigan-Police-Could-Search-Cell-Phones-During-Traffic-Stops

[Jaguar]

^ That's what I was posting above and it was conveniently ignored.

[vansmack]

Jag, I ignored that post because if you're dumb enough to willingly hand your phone over to a cop, then you deserve to have all of your data taken and used against you.   

This applies to you giving your phone to more than just a cop too - there is so much data on a phone that it boggles my mind how open folks are with their phone.  You wouldn't hand your wallet over, why would you hand your phone over?

It's a little different if it's not clearly a willing act or if it's part of an arrest.  The 4th/5th/6th amendment right(s) to reasonable searches and seizures has been so decimated in the past 20 years anyway, that this is just the next test for the courts.

[Jaguar]

 ^ Geesh,... the point is not whether or not one is dumb enough to hand their phone over. It's that the cops are doing this regardless of it's legality.

The fact that our rights are being destroyed does not in the least make it anymore acceptable. In fact, it's even more cause to nip it in the bud! It's all this closing one's mind to what is happening that allows our rights to continue to decline. Of course, unless you prefer to be a dumbed down zombified sheep. In that case, anyone who prefers to join the ever tightening pasture 'deserves' to be taken advantage of like this by your phone logic.

[wml7]

 

[godsshoeshine]

if a cop ever asks me to hand over my phone, i'm just going to pull up this thread

[vansmack]

if a cop ever asks me to hand over my phone, i'm just going to pull up this thread

Or just say, "Do you have a warrant for that?", expect a little attitude, and move on.

[vansmack]

^ Geesh,... the point is not whether or not one is dumb enough to hand their phone over. It's that the cops are doing this regardless of it's legality.

I believe firmly in the process of Natural Selection.

[Jaguar]

The average person will be intimidated enough to hand anything over to a cop, especially one that might act like a bully. Not everyone is as well informed and trained in the law as you and they know it. The cops know it too and so do their bosses and will sometimes use that against you.

Pretty sad when one prefers a police department that condones such tactics rather than expecting them to operate on the up and up.

An excellent organization to keep up with what's going on regarding tech rights and has our best interests at heart.

Electronic Frontier Foundation

[James Ford]

So are you guys saying my refusal to ever own a cell phone could in essence be a good thing?

[godsshoeshine]

if a cop ever asks me to hand over my phone, i'm just going to pull up this thread

Or just say, "Do you have a warrant for that?", expect a little attitude, and move on.

youre right. no app for that yet

[wml7]

So are you guys saying my refusal to ever own a cell phone could in essence be a good thing?

no, it means you are an old coot and not with the times yet 

[Jaguar]

if a cop ever asks me to hand over my phone, i'm just going to pull up this thread

Or just say, "Do you have a warrant for that?", expect a little attitude, and move on.

youre right. no app for that yet

While technically both of you guys are correct, I'd love to be in the background watching which of you have the balls to do this, say it again when demanded, and then get away with it. You 'should' be able to do so but it may not be a nice departing if you get to 'move along, son'. May all depend on how law abiding that cop is vs one with a power-freak ego. Add the pressure from their higher ups and their agendas.

With that said, that is an excellent idea for an app. Maybe one that automatically pops up whenever things are extracted or someone other than the owner accesses the phone.

[walkonby]

cops are hot



he can have anything he wants.

[Jaguar]

All yours, Walkie! Not my type. (And, no, not because he's a cop. Too damned hairy!)