denied admission

[thatguy]

Originally posted by le sonick:
  also, i laugh really hard at anyone who ever blames thatguy for bring unfair or rude.  it just doesnt happen.

i suppose that unfair is subjective, but i do my best to avoid being rude.  sometimes i slip up and my sarcasm slips through though.  i try to keep it under control.

[thatguy]

Originally posted by vansmack:
  Clearly, you've never played Halo against him...

i don't know what you are talking about.  i'm a perfect gentleman while playing video games.
 
 it's been too long.  we need to get a game together.

[HoyaSaxa03]

in college we all knew not to even test 930 club, we'd use our fake IDs pretty much everywhere else in the city other than there ... you guys were just way to harDCore

[Che]

I understand them not letting you in but they should have given you your unused ticket back.  You did pay 30 bucks for the ticket even if they aren't going to let you use it.  The show was soldout and I don't think its illegal to sell it to someone else if you sell it for underface value.

[you be betty]

But how could he even coherently sell a ticket if he was that wasted?
 
 Listen, I understand the whole not being able to drink at shows thing.  It sucks.  But deal with it.  In a few years it'll be a non-issue.  The worst part of this whole ordeal is that he is lying.  In the first post, he tried to play it off like he was a poor kid accused of drinking who wasn't.  But you clearly WERE drinking, because you said you understood why you were denied admission.  So there you go.
 
 Listen, if you really want to drink, at least control yourself and either do it somewhere else afterwards or allow yourself enough time before you need to enter the show to sober up.  Don't sit there and drink outside the fucking club and then whine when they don't admit you.  I'm sorry, but I have no sympathy for people who drink irresponsably and then whine about it.  If you want to get wasted, by all means, get wasted, but don't do it directly outside a club that you know is all-ages for a reason.  
 
 Plus, if you liked Citizen Cope or whoever it was that much, you would've been happy enough to just be seeing him.  No buzz needed for a great night of live music...

[Urbansprite]

Originally posted by le sonick:
  i think we should also kick this guy out of the forum.

don't worry.  if you gave this kid a loaded gun, he'd put it to his head and pull the trigger just to see if it works.

[taperkat]

I too would have had to be drunk to see Citizen Cope again, while Clarence is a fascinating guy his stage show leaves much to be desired... and as for the guy bitching he got kicked, be glad you weren't arrested. I was the ballbreaker when it came to underage drinking when I worked for bands/at venues. I was often let in underage to work merch and I had to sign my life away stating they could haul me to jail no questions asked if I got caught drinking. I didn't drink in a venue until I was 21.

[bikerchickdc]

Originally posted by Che:
  I understand them not letting you in but they should have given you your unused ticket back.  You did pay 30 bucks for the ticket even if they aren't going to let you use it.  

Why on earth would the club owe a refund? It's this kid's fault that the club refused to let him in. Why would the club have to take money out of their pocket because this kid screwed up? And if they just gave him the ticket back, under the assumption he would be able to sell it himself, what would prevent him from trying to get into the show with it?  Yeah, most of us, when told we're not allowed in, would probably not press our luck but "most" doesn't mean "all."  Some fools are going to walk around the block, then back up to the door to try and get in again.
 
 The 9:30 WANTS you to come inside and see the show. Even if you're not drinking, you're going to buy a coke or a t-shirt or something. They make more money off you when you're inside, not outside. You tell your friends what a great time you had, and they sell more tickets off of that word-of-mouth. You have to be pretty unwelcome before they make you leave. And if you're that unwelcome, I don't think you deserve your money back.

[walkonby]

if only he'd smoked weed instead.
 
 "uhmm, huge dude with many cute tatts and piercings . . . that was just a cigarette butt i threw in the trash.  i swear."
 
 then the id thing wouldn't have been an issue; all ages can smoke herb.  just ask willie.

[evilizac]

As an outsider to the usual goings on I'd just like to say... Is this topic still really carrying on? ... Really?.?

[Bags]

Originally posted by bikerchickdc:
   

Originally posted by Che:
  I understand them not letting you in but they should have given you your unused ticket back.  You did pay 30 bucks for the ticket even if they aren't going to let you use it.  

Why on earth would the club owe a refund? It's this kid's fault that the club refused to let him in. [/b]

While I don't emphathize much, it is true that the kid could have sold his ticket.  He wasn't drinking in the club, he never got in.  Hence, he hadn't broken any club rules and so he should have been able to keep his ticket for a secondary sale.
 
 Alas, I have a feeling that the kids were too wasted to have been reasonable or have figured out they could sell tickets to a sold out show rather than trying to demand a refund from the club, which was in its rights to disallow entrance.
 
 As for the kids, let me tell you this -- I'm in my late thirties, and if I don't have proper ID, the club will stamp me with the underage stamp.  While it seems kind of crazy (as I'm old enough to be mother to some of the other patrons), I understand it.  It's very tough dealing with an all ages club that serves alcohol.  We've had this discussion here before -- it's a damn incredible service they're offering the under 21 crowd, so don't louse it up.

[Bags]

Originally posted by you be betty:
  But how could he even coherently sell a ticket if he was that wasted?

But that's not the club's call, whether he's capable of selling it (hell, I'm not all that capable as I'm pretty meek, but that's my deal to work with).  
 
 He can cross the street and try to sell his ticket -- hell, he might have made a jackass of himself, or worse drawn the attention of the cops that are always around the club.  That'd be his problem.  He never got in the club, so I think the ticket should have been his to deal with.

[Bags]

Originally posted by bikerchickdc:
 And if they just gave him the ticket back, under the assumption he would be able to sell it himself, what would prevent him from trying to get into the show with it?  Yeah, most of us, when told we're not allowed in, would probably not press our luck but "most" doesn't mean "all."  Some fools are going to walk around the block, then back up to the door to try and get in again.

After the scene they caused, they would never get in to that club.  No way, no how.

[you be betty]

Originally posted by Bags:
   

Originally posted by you be betty:
  But how could he even coherently sell a ticket if he was that wasted?

But that's not the club's call, whether he's capable of selling it (hell, I'm not all that capable as I'm pretty meek, but that's my deal to work with).  
 
 He can cross the street and try to sell his ticket -- hell, he might have made a jackass of himself, or worse drawn the attention of the cops that are always around the club.  That'd be his problem.  He never got in the club, so I think the ticket should have been his to deal with. [/b]

I agree fully.  Kid did a dumb thing, but don't take his ticket from him.  
 It's the club's responsibility to make sure he doesn't get in the show.  So let the guy come back and pester you at the door some more...just don't let him in.  Taking his ticket just isn't cool.  If he's "responsible" enough to be drinking, he should be "responsible" enough to deal with his own ticket.  
 
 Plus, as far as teaching him a lesson, in his way he sees his not getting into the show now as the club's fault...they took his ticket.  Letting him deal with it himself might be a better way to show that it's his issue, not yours.  That's what I say at least.

[twangirl]

 

Originally posted by you be betty:
 

So let the guy come back and pester you at the door some more...just don't let him in.  [/b][/QUOTE]
 
 
 The staph has many other things to deal with at the door. Minimizing encounters with people like this kid enables them to better serve the other customers.