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Re: Coldplay Presale Purchase Question
« Reply #105 on: May 26, 2005, 03:07:00 pm »
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  Because I give a lot of money to charity and now I won't have an extra $70 to give away because my Mrs. wanted to see Coldplay despite the fact that they've doubled their ticket prices, so there's one way raising ticket prices have hurt the third world.
That argument is negligible at best, and asinine at worst.

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Re: Coldplay Presale Purchase Question
« Reply #106 on: May 26, 2005, 03:08:00 pm »
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  Aha, that makes sense.  Now I get what you were getting at.  It's the Simon & Garfunkle phenomenon as well.  I'd bet that 50% of the folks in MCI Center go to one or two concerts a year, so were willing to shell out $200.
exactly ... and it's why godspeed could never get away with charging more than $25 or $30 ... i do love stereotyping and perhaps get out of control with it sometimes, but this "casual rock fan" / "early adopter" distinction is a pretty strong one
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Re: Coldplay Presale Purchase Question
« Reply #107 on: May 26, 2005, 03:10:00 pm »
if you really cared about developing nations you wouldn't refer to them with the politically incorrect term "third world"
 
 sheesh.
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Re: Coldplay Presale Purchase Question
« Reply #108 on: May 26, 2005, 03:10:00 pm »
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Re: Coldplay Presale Purchase Question
« Reply #109 on: May 26, 2005, 03:11:00 pm »
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  ... i do love stereotyping and perhaps get out of control with it sometimes, but this "casual rock fan" / "early adopter" distinction is a pretty strong one
Though I'll bet there are a lot of early adopters who go to this show.  I think folks who won't are early adopters who go to a lot of shows during the year, so don't view the current Coldplay price as in line with their normal value-chain.
 
 Okay, I know the debate has raged and may soon be over, but you have to admit, it's been a long time since we've had a real-time discussion like this.  I know, ticket prices are one of those recurrent arguments, but valid points made on all sides.  And no one was called a porky midget!

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Re: Coldplay Presale Purchase Question
« Reply #110 on: May 26, 2005, 03:11:00 pm »
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  if you really cared about developing nations you wouldn't refer to them with the politically incorrect term "third world"
 
Would you prefer undeveloped?
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Re: Coldplay Presale Purchase Question
« Reply #111 on: May 26, 2005, 03:13:00 pm »
tap tap tap tap  
 
 debate? pile on is better...
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Re: Coldplay Presale Purchase Question
« Reply #112 on: May 26, 2005, 03:15:00 pm »
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 And no one was called a porky midget!
Shut up, you porky midget!

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Re: Coldplay Presale Purchase Question
« Reply #113 on: May 26, 2005, 03:16:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:
  That argument is negligible at best, and asinine at worst.
We'll see when the show comes around.  It will be just like U2 in the spring - late 20 to late 30 somethings early in the professional career and very, very, very ,very, very white.
 
 They are also the prime candidates for fund raising for "intellectual issues" like debt relief and fair trade, that's why they have spokespersons that relate more to that generation than to thier parents generation.
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Re: Coldplay Presale Purchase Question
« Reply #114 on: May 26, 2005, 03:17:00 pm »
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Re: Coldplay Presale Purchase Question
« Reply #115 on: May 26, 2005, 03:18:00 pm »
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 And no one was called a porky midget!
Shut up, you porky midget! [/b]
Yeah, if only it were that easy to get me to leave this place....folks would have hurled such slang at me ages ago!

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Re: Coldplay Presale Purchase Question
« Reply #116 on: May 26, 2005, 03:19:00 pm »
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  if you really cared about developing nations you wouldn't refer to them with the politically incorrect term "third world"
 
Would you prefer undeveloped? [/b]
i frankly don't really care, but i became interested ...
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World
 
 These countries are also known as the Global South, developing countries, least developed countries and the Majority World in academic circles.
 
 Development workers also call them the two-thirds world and The South. Some dislike the term developing countries as it implies that economic development (industrialisation) is the only way forward, while they believe it is not necessarily the most beneficial. The term Third World is also disliked as it implies the false notion that those countries are not a part of the global economic system.
 
 The term "third world" was coined by economist Alfred Sauvy in an article in the French magazine L'Observateur of August 14, 1952. It was a deliberate reference to the "Third Estate" of the French Revolution. Tiers monde means third world in French. The term gained widespread popularity during the Cold War when many poorer nations adopted the category to describe themselves as neither being aligned with NATO or the Warsaw Pact, but instead composing a non-aligned "third world" (in this context, the term "First World" was generally understood to mean the United States and its allies in the Cold War, which would have made the East bloc the "Second World" by default; however, the latter term was very seldom actually used).
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Re: Coldplay Presale Purchase Question
« Reply #117 on: May 26, 2005, 03:20:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:
  That argument is negligible at best, and asinine at worst.
We'll see when the show comes around.  It will be just like U2 in the spring - late 20 to late 30 somethings early in the professional career and very, very, very ,very, very white.
 
 They are also the prime candidates for fund raising for "intellectual issues" like debt relief and fair trade, that's why they have spokespersons that relate more to that generation than to thier parents generation. [/b]
Simply having 70 more dollars in your pocket is not a de facto concession that said $70 is going to charity. I'm sure virutally no one sat down and made a cognitive decision "Gee, a Coldplay ticket or starving kids? Hmmm..."
 
 There's no way to measure this sort of thing, but I cannot honestly think the affect of Coldplay's ticket prices affects charitable giving in any real regard. I suppose we'll indict Starbucks of killing the rainforest next because they raised the prices on their Venti Frappuchinos by 25 cents, and that money could have been well spent on ecological charity.

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Re: Coldplay Presale Purchase Question
« Reply #118 on: May 26, 2005, 03:27:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:
  Simply having 70 more dollars in your pocket is not a de facto concession that said $70 is going to charity.
And neither is hiding behind the illusion that it's OK to give Chris Martin more money because I should "consider maybe he's using part of his fortune to help out charities."
 
 That's all I was saying.
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Re: Coldplay Presale Purchase Question
« Reply #119 on: May 26, 2005, 03:28:00 pm »
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  (that and i just bought a house, HOYA!)
great to hear! congratulations are in order!!
 
     :D   [/b]
Have you closed?  I've got a contract on a place and go to settlement June 17, but am nervous to believe I have it as I've been burned once before by a seller...
 
 CONGRATULATIONS.  I should have done it at your age; I'm an idiot (though job changes had much to do with it). [/b]
yeah, we closed last week, moved in already.
   
   funny, I am almost 28 and i am thinking "why didnt i do this 5 years ago!"
 
   we had a nice seller luckily. but i have heard some bad stories.
 
   Good luck next month!