Coldplay Presale Purchase Question

[Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface]

Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
  if a band wants to set their ticket prices at $70 a pop thats fine with me.  but to justify that price because of what brokers might charge is flawed logic.  

I agree, the ticket broker thing is ridiculous, but 90% of the people in this thread are going "the kid made points a, b, c, and d, and while a, b, and c are accurate, we'll just write the entire argument off because d is way off."

[distance]

Originally posted by GabrielG54:
  man. what kills me is that EVERYONE in here. and i mean EVERYONE, would do the exact same thing. it doesnt make you morally bankrupt to charge what you are "worth".

no.  not everyone would.  not everyone does.
 i wouldn't do it.  i think it's unethical to take your 'fans' for a ride for every cent you can possible shake out of their pockets.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by Bags:
   

Originally posted by sonickteam4:
 Coldplay is just being greedy. and sooner or later, if everyone follows thier little standard, we will all be saving up for those 3 shows a year we go to, and only people with good paying jobs or rich parents will be going to shows.

No, I disagree...not all bands are going to command and get $70.  Look, bands DON'T sell out 9:30 Club all the time, at much lower prices.  And, sometimes, a band doesn't sell out because its prices are too high.
 
 If a band can sell out at a price, why not get it.
 
 Concerts are not a public good, I hate to say, and do not need to be offered at cost-based pricing, say.
 
   

Originally posted by sonickteam4:
 the point is, if you wanna go see a show, you get tickets. and if you wanna pay more, pay more.  but dont just charge $70 to everyone. thats wikked lame.

Huh?  This just doesn't make sense (as in I don't know what you're trying to say, not that you're wrong)
  [/b]

ok, firstly. you're right, we'll still be able to see some shows, but after a while, will be be basically all new bands, cult bands, or the ever-popular reunion shows that may or may not have been a good idea?
 
   and the part you didnt understand:  of all the shows i try to go see, I almost NEVER have to buy from a scalper. if i really wanna go, i make sure i get tickets.  and if they sell out, i choose whether to just skip the show or pay a little more to get in.
 
  scalpers arent making people buy tickets. and most people wouldnt pay that much.  apparently Coldplay fans will.

[Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface]

Originally posted by distance:
  they don't HAVE to double the price from last tour.  it's not like they're struggling to get by.  i'm just saying they're in a position where they COULD charge less money.
 
 they're making that choice.  i'm making the choice not to give them any of MY money.
 

I can agree with all that, and I understand the distinction you're making.
 
 Like I said earlier, I, and yourself, and no doubt many other people took one look at $70 tickets and said no way. That's our perrogative. But to rise to the extreme of "Chris Martin is evil" or "it's unconciable to charge this much" or give some reason why Chris Martin  is wrong in exercising his perrogative over what he charges for tickets is ridiculous. Or to say other people exercising their perogative in buying Coldplay tickets are stupid is haughty as well. There's better things for moral outrage in the world then fucking Coldplay ticket prices.

[HoyaSaxa03]

Originally posted by sonickteam4:
  (that and i just bought a house, HOYA!)

great to hear! congratulations are in order!!
 
   

[Bags]

Originally posted by distance:
    if they're just in it to make as much as they can as fast as they can, that's fine.  but they won't be getting any more of my money and i think they've probably pissed more people off than i think they thought they were going to... but that doesn't mean that the shows won't sell out.

If they lose your business, but they can still sell out the venue, then your loss is of no concern, business-wise.  Your ticket is no different from anyone else who buys one to them.
 
 That seems harsh and simplistic, but thinking this is all an altruistic, for-the-music-and-the-people business is WAY simplistic.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:
  Where I'm from we fought a Cold War to stand up against that type of thinking.

arent your from Richmond? they fought a cold war?

[BookerT]

i think we all remember the clearchannel band cost list that circulates every spring..
 

i was just thinking about this ... i know it was posted here a while back, can someone post it again? sorry to take us off topic. wait, no i'm not.

[kosmo vinyl]

the only way ticket being sold via eBay will end is if people just stopped buying them that way.  of course that will never happen because people start panicing and feeling like they are missing out on something.  witness the person who bought SOAD tickets for a mint via eBay when all they had to do was check in here.

[Bags]

Originally posted by distance:
  there just comes a point where a person that seems to be as 'for the little guy' (3rd world countries) as chris martin wants people to think that would be like "no.  our shows don't need to cost that much money."  doesn't that seem a bit reasonable?

But how do you know what he does with his money?  Maybe he's feeding 27 villages with some of his proceeds -- and maybe he'd rather decide where that money goes rather than leaving it up to you or the government....

[HoyaSaxa03]

Originally posted by Bags:
  And to Hoya -- this "category of fans" thing makes no sense.  Point is, they have a LOT of fans.  Doesn't matter a toss if they're cool indie hipsters or Hootie-loving soccer moms.  Both groups are willing to pay to see this show.

no, it DOES make sense ... it explains why they can charge $60+ per ticket and it really isn't a huge logical leap
 
 as one of the biggest rock bands in the US, they have a lot of casual fans who don't often go to concerts and have no qualms spending $60+ when they go to their one concert of the season or even of the year
 
 of course their fan demographics don't really matter, but they easily explain the ticket prices.

[GabrielG54]

and to think, all i wanted was to know if my seats were any good.

[vansmack]

Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:
  No, I'm not sarcastic....And how would third world nations be helped by Coldplay lowering ticket prices?

Holy shit, you're serious!!  OK, there are 5 guys in the band, one of which is rather outspoken the other 4 I can't even name, they likely split profits so they doubled the tickets prices so that one of them can share his wealth with third world nations!?!?!?!?!  That's more assinine than arguing that they raised prices to curb scalping!
 
 If they were serious about helping third world nations by raising ticket prices, why not announce that $35 from every ticket goes to Make Trade Fair?  Because that's not the case now is it?

[Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface]

Originally posted by sonickteam4:
  arent your from Richmond? they fought a cold war?

Richmond, no, they're still trying to fight the Civil War, but America as a whole, yes.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by GabrielG54:
  and to think, all i wanted was to know if my seats were any good.

not if they're at the Coldplay show.