Okay Kids, Start Deleting!

[mankie]

Why not just go to the various used cd places...much cheaper and it's great feeling when you find a cd you've been wanting for ages and only pay about $7 for it.

[mjnova]

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
   

Originally posted by mjnova:
 I mean compared to chains.  Compared to real record store and it's no contest.  But say tower v. boarders v. best buy v. fye, you have the best chance of finding something at tower, I've found.

uhhh, you are aware that tower is a chain too, and that they are part of the settlement regarding manipulation of cd prices, as posted by smackie in another thread. [/b]

Yes.  That's my point.  their prices are expensive and compared to chains (of which they are a subset) their selection is good.  I'm not putting tower in the same league as say, Amoeba Music.

[Yank]

Originally posted by mankie:
  Why not just go to the various used cd places...much cheaper and it's great feeling when you find a cd you've been wanting for ages and only pay about $7 for it.

My computer is pretty much knackered and I don't do any downloading at all....but I have in the past.  I think most people would argue that downloading in the best way to hear new music Mankie.  You can download two or three songs by a band, and if you like it, go out and buy the commerical cd.  Since radio is a joke nowadays, it's hard to just go out and buy music on word of mouth and reviews.  If you couldn't download, most of us would be complaining that there is no good music out anymore!  Sound familiar?

[mankie]

Originally posted by Yank:
 

My computer is pretty much knackered and I don't do any downloading at all....but I have in the past.  I think most people would argue that downloading in the best way to hear new music Mankie.  You can download two or three songs by a band, and if you like it, go out and buy the commerical cd.  Since radio is a joke nowadays, it's hard to just go out and buy music on word of mouth and reviews.  If you couldn't download, most of us would be complaining that there is no good music out anymore!  Sound familiar? [/b]

Your point is well taken..BUT! There must be a way for the Bill Gates of the world to figure out how you can download music but as soon as it's been played it's erased and cannot be burned onto a cd.
 
 I just think it's simply out and out stealing and wrong so something must be done about it. It's the same thing as getting a concert ticket and printing it over and over to give it to your mates so they get in a show for free.

[Yank]

I don't think it's much different from when you and I were kids and borrowing a mates album and making a cassette copy of it, or taping songs from the radio.  The industry has created this problem promoting shit bands and artists and charging outrageous prices in return.  A cassette costs more to manufacture than a cd but a cd costs more than the cassette.  Why is that?  The record industry can't fool all of the people all of the time!  For my £12, the band deserves most of it and not just a rotten quid.

[thirsty moore]

They've done that as well.  And that just creates a challenge for some computer whiz kid to overcome...
 
 

Originally posted by mankie:
 Your point is well taken..BUT! There must be a way for the Bill Gates of the world to figure out how you can download music but as soon as it's been played it's erased and cannot be burned onto a cd.

[Jaguär]

Another point that is not mentioned here is that many of the files that are traded are NOT available for purchase. Not in record stores, new or used, not on ebay, not through the record companies nor even the artists. How can sharing this sort of file be hurting sales or the artists? When it comes down to it, it is a way of keeping an artist and a culture alive. Some of it is out of print while some was never even in print. Also, though most are music files, not all files that are shared are music files. This will impact more than just those who are not willing to actually buy an available CD or record.

[mankie]

Originally posted by Yank:
 
 
 I don't think it's much different from when you and I were kids and borrowing a mates album and making a cassette copy of it, or taping songs from the radio.  
 
 
 

At least the artist sold one album to be taped from...Actually I never really did that either because my cassette recorder was shite and my older sister would never let me borrow hers, the cow! I liked to have the actual record anyway so had a newspaper round to buy them..and my footie tickets of course.

[Dandy01]

well, tower is going under anyway.  and i got an amoeba magnet on my fridge!

[vansmack]

Originally posted by Jaguär:
  Another point that is not mentioned here is that many of the files that are traded are NOT available for purchase. Not in record stores, new or used, not on ebay, not through the record companies nor even the artists. How can sharing this sort of file be hurting sales or the artists? When it comes down to it, it is a way of keeping an artist and a culture alive. Some of it is out of print while some was never even in print. Also, though most are music files, not all files that are shared are music files. This will impact more than just those who are not willing to actually buy an available CD or record.

The RIAAA still views that as a copyright infringement (those are essentiall bootlegs and those have always been illegal to both record and trade).

[mankie]

Do they have Virgin Records anywhere in the states? They always had a great selection. HMV wasn't too bad either....wasn't there a HMV in G'towne one time?
 
 By the way, for you college pukes...is it "an HMV" because the letter H is pronounced with a vowel, or is it "a HMV" because the letter H is not a vowel?

[thirsty moore]

Well, there's one college puke that's a lawyer and keeps adding an extra A at the end of RIAA.  So, even we can't spell things correctly...
 
 I've always seen "an" used before "h.  Oh, and it's spelled Georgetown you pommie

[thirsty moore]

This might be a first, I'm not editing my post...
 
 I just realized.. you don't buy "an" house.  You buy "a" house.  So my rule is flawed.  I guess if it's a soft "h" you would use "an".

[Jaguär]

Originally posted by vansmack:
   

Originally posted by Jaguär:
  Another point that is not mentioned here is that many of the files that are traded are NOT available for purchase. Not in record stores, new or used, not on ebay, not through the record companies nor even the artists. How can sharing this sort of file be hurting sales or the artists? When it comes down to it, it is a way of keeping an artist and a culture alive. Some of it is out of print while some was never even in print. Also, though most are music files, not all files that are shared are music files. This will impact more than just those who are not willing to actually buy an available CD or record.

The RIAAA still views that as a copyright infringement (those are essentiall bootlegs and those have always been illegal to both record and trade). [/b]

And not all files that are not blatant burns are bootlegs.
 
 For instance, what about the artist who willing makes his or her music available to the downloading public and even encourages it? Some of them use this method of free advertising. They can't afford the advertising agents and such and it gets their work out and possibly establishing a fan base. Lord knows the Clear Craps and the like won't do shit to promote them!
 
 I know the bean counters and the lawyers all want their cake but too often those are the very people who kill a culture. Look at all the Beatle documentation that would be lost if those such as the RIAA had their way with every tiny thing.

[mankie]

Originally posted by thirsty moore:
  This might be a first, I'm not editing my post...
 
 I just realized.. you don't buy "an" house.  You buy "a" house.  So my rule is flawed.  I guess if it's a soft "h" you would use "an".

Ah zank-yoo glass hopper...yoo so wize!
 
 (I'm not grabbing your pebbles though)