I am not even reading this whole stupid thread, but i feel like i started it sorta, since wallawalla dudes initial rant was responding to my little comment.
so let me say this:
I just said "crappy" jam bands. i didnt spend a whole 30 minutes calling them names, insulting thier fans intelligence or anything like that. I have been in and out of many music "scenes" from punk rock to electronic to rock and so have my friends. I have been to many "jam band" shows (my friend used to work at the Funk Box) and have seen STS9, Karl Denson, dark star orch, phish, oar, disco biscuits and many other ones that even jam band people dismiss, and i have generally found the crowds at these shows to be rude, overly fucked up and basically a bunch of over-privileged jerks who like to rant on about their views of the world (most of which contradict their actions)
the music is crappy. a good amount of the people who listen to them are fucking obnoxious. and its my choice, or anyone elses to feel that way.
i love how whenever someone says they dont like something, someone who does automatically dismissing them as knowing nothing about it.
face it, jam bands are like rave music, you need drugs to enjoy it. otherwise its a stagnant genre where the innovators are gone and all thats left are the uncreative leftovers.