A Perfect Circle 8/2 @ 930

[ggw]

Say what you will about Tool, but in reviewing a Clear Channel list of prices for various concerts that they promote (and who don't they promote these days), Tool was at the top.  $250k per show, if I recall correctly.

[SPARX]

Originally posted by ggw™:
  Say what you will about Tool, but in reviewing a Clear Channel list of prices for various concerts that they promote (and who don't they promote these days), Tool was at the top.  $250k per show, if I recall correctly.

Just goes to show,some people have no common sense,or taste for that matter,IMHO of course.Crap bands seem to always make a boat load of money.It's the real gems that struggle in these days of Clear channel.

[jadetree]

all you old fogeys need to settle down in here

[ggw]

Originally posted by SPARX:
   

Originally posted by ggw™:
  Say what you will about Tool, but in reviewing a Clear Channel list of prices for various concerts that they promote (and who don't they promote these days), Tool was at the top.  $250k per show, if I recall correctly.

Just goes to show,some people have no common sense,or taste for that matter,IMHO of course.Crap bands seem to always make a boat load of money.It's the real gems that struggle in these days of Clear channel. [/b]

I'd largely agree with you, but I think Tool might be an exception.  I don't really care for them, but they seem to draw from a far more diverse and musically sophisticated audience than your run-of-the-mill Korn, Limp Bizkit, nu-Metal, date-raping lunkheads.

[SPARX]

Originally posted by Robert Pollard:
  all you old fogeys need to settle down in here

Ok uncle Bob,i'll be good : ) Just giving the facts as i see em.

[paige]

i just want to know why everyone thinks they suck... honestly. they dont have to be the best band ever, but for all the people here who have "good taste" in music, you think that you could appreciate talent even if it doesn't fall in your realm of familiarity

[ggw]

Originally posted by paige:
  i just want to know why everyone thinks they suck... honestly. they dont have to be the best band ever, but for all the people here who have "good taste" in music, you think that you could appreciate talent even if it doesn't fall in your realm of familiarity

That was kind of my point -- although I didn't spell it out very well.
 
 Tool isn't a gold or platinum selling artist, yet they can demand as high a concert fee as any Billboard #1 or TRL artist.  So the fans must be pretty hardcore.  Moreover, they don't seem to draw the backwards-baseball-cap wearing half-breeds that jump on the latest nu-Metal bandwagon. They appear to draw a more diverse crowd of traditional head-bangers, prog-rock enthusiasts, punks, and hard-rock fans. From this, I would assume they must be talented, despite the fact that I don't elect to listen to them.

[kosmo vinyl]

well jack osborne loves tool so i guess they must be "good"... ain't tool such a great name for a band, there are just so many meanings for that word none of them sexual in nature.

[SPARX]

Originally posted by paige:
  i just want to know why everyone thinks they suck... honestly. they dont have to be the best band ever, but for all the people here who have "good taste" in music, you think that you could appreciate talent even if it doesn't fall in your realm of familiarity

i've seen them,wasn't impressed.just not my cup o tea I suppose.They must be doing something right,if they make 250 grand a pop.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

talented...or strategically marketed...
 
 

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
   

Originally posted by paige:
  i just want to know why everyone thinks they suck... honestly. they dont have to be the best band ever, but for all the people here who have "good taste" in music, you think that you could appreciate talent even if it doesn't fall in your realm of familiarity

That was kind of my point -- although I didn't spell it out very well.
 
 Tool isn't a gold or platinum selling artist, yet they can demand as high a concert fee as any Billboard #1 or TRL artist.  So the fans must be pretty hardcore.  Moreover, they don't seem to draw the backwards-baseball-cap wearing half-breeds that jump on the latest nu-Metal bandwagon. They appear to draw a more diverse crowd of traditional head-bangers, prog-rock enthusiasts, punks, and hard-rock fans. From this, I would assume they must be talented, despite the fact that I don't elect to listen to them. [/b]

[ggw]

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  talented...or strategically marketed...
 

It must be the greatest focused marketing campaign ever.  It's not like you see Tool appearing everywhere.  Leads me to believe it must be organic.

[Venerable Bede]

well. . i thought tool put on a hell of a show when i saw them, granted, it was in 1994.

[paige]

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  That was kind of my point -- although I didn't spell it out very well.
 
 Tool isn't a gold or platinum selling artist, yet they can demand as high a concert fee as any Billboard #1 or TRL artist.  So the fans must be pretty hardcore.  Moreover, they don't seem to draw the backwards-baseball-cap wearing half-breeds that jump on the latest nu-Metal bandwagon. They appear to draw a more diverse crowd of traditional head-bangers, prog-rock enthusiasts, punks, and hard-rock fans. From this, I would assume they must be talented, despite the fact that I don't elect to listen to them.

exactly.. they aren't even close to bands like limp bizkit.. their fans are very hardcore, and their music goes much deeper than a lot of other bands's... in my opinion.
 
 sure, they may be a little "weird" (aka maynard, the singer) but who cares? their lyrics and music are original, honest, and not nearly as shitty as bands like linkin park's.

[walkman]

These nu-metal comparisons are totally off...Tool are a prog rock band, pure and simple.  Their sound is very heavy, but it is played by extremely accomplished musicians.  If you really want to knock 'em, they're more like the metal version of Pink Floyd.  Which still isn't a good thing in my book...but it's better than Linkin Park.
 
 P.S.  A Perfect Circle still kinda suck.

[Jaguär]

Tool make me want to killllllllllllllllll!!!!!!!  :mad:    :mad:    :mad:  
 
 Of the 3, I'll take A Perfect Circle which I can actually like now and then.