Cartel Website uo and running...

[Barcelona]

Liked the site, but the songs are not my type of music.
 Anyway, good luck.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

Why would you say that? People on the Robbie Fulks chatboard like all types of music, and they don't have a pre-formed opinion of the band based on knowing a band member. I'd say they are more capable of forming an objective opinion than people who are responding to someone they know, posting a "What do you think of my band?" posting on a chatboard on which he regularly posts. Right?
 
 

Originally posted by vansmack:
   

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  well, i tried to elicit some unbiased opinions on the robbie fulks chatboard, and sorry to say, this is the only one i got...

Why don't you try the NWA message board next and see what gangsta rap fans think?  It would be just as useful(less). [/b]

[chaz]

Yeah but they guy who replied said in no uncertain terms that if it wasn't country he could care less.....the point being that posting his response was unconstructive in the context of this thread.
 
 Not that I care, just pointing out the obvious.
 
 
 

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Why would you say that? People on the Robbie Fulks chatboard like all types of music, and they don't have a pre-formed opinion of the band based on knowing a band member. I'd say they are more capable of forming an objective opinion than people who are responding to someone they know, posting a "What do you think of my band?" posting on a chatboard on which he regularly posts. Right?
 
   

Originally posted by vansmack:
   

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  well, i tried to elicit some unbiased opinions on the robbie fulks chatboard, and sorry to say, this is the only one i got...

Why don't you try the NWA message board next and see what gangsta rap fans think?  It would be just as useful(less). [/b]

[/b]

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

Actually Chaz, it was a woman, but you do have a point (at the time I posted it, it was the only comment that had been made). Here's some more comments. These by people I know to be fans of varying types of music:
 
 Eh...not bad but not something I would probably listen to. Sounds like what Will Wheaton would be like if he had a band.
 
 I'm finding it a bit ponderous. Going over old ground that was unproductive originally. That's only my opinion.
 
 U2 for the aughts? I don't hate them as much as Eraserhead (Radiohead). I hope they don't open for anyone I have tickets for.

[Fico]

All very valid points... many thanks for taking the time to listen to the songs and following up with your opinions. If you like the songs, great, come check us out...if you don't, then that's fine too.

[chaz]

I dig it Fico.  What do you do in the band?

[Fico]

Originally posted by chaz:
  I dig it Fico.  What do you do in the band?

I play bass and do some minor background vocals live..
 
 The verses to Polly Jean and another song called "At Night" are sung by the rythm guitarist/keyboard player (Luke)
 
 the second song "Fleets" and pretty much the rest of our catalog is sung by our singer/guitarist (Brian)..
 
 Ed does the drumming and Mark the other guitar wizardry...
 
 Pictures to the website should be coming soon...

[markie]

I think Fico, should feel very positive about the criticisms..... It is their first recording and the are already getting mentioned in the same breaths as U2 and Radiohead. Things could be a lot worse than that. No one is coming back saying it sounds half-arsed or poorly done, badly produced or bad songwriting.
 
 
 For a first attempt I would take that as being hugely positive.
 
 Well done Fico and Cartel.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

I would agree. It's defintely not my thing, but I think it's well done.

[grotty]

Polly Jean is quite good. It's not often that you listen to a "hey - check out my band's songs" and come away impressed.
 
 You really nailed it with the vocals - which has to be the hardest component to find/fit.
 
 I'm giving it a second listen now. I'd be sending this out to any/all potential outlets...like WOXY. Not sure if they'd pick it up, but what a break if they did. It's surely radio ready & would fit right into their format. Maybe one of the local DC radio stations also has a local or new music segment that this would fit nicely into & really stand out.

[Fico]

First off, thanks again for your criticisms (be them accolades, slams, suggestions, etc)...
 
 We did take our time trying to get the recording right..I'm sure that a year from now and with hindsight we'll wish we'd done some things different..but with the budget at hand (which we went over), time-constraints, etc...we are as proud as we can be at the outcome of things. We will be printing the EP as soon as we finish the final mixing & mastering within the next 2 weeks, and hopefully you'll hear me blabbing in about a month about the places to buy our EP or some cd release show. We will try to get our EP in as many hands as possible and see what comes of it...I talked to redsock about getting a bigyawn review and if any of you know anyone who might be interested in doing a write-up for their blog, website, etc let me know and I'll be happy to get the cd to them ASAP...
 
 BTW, thanks to the person who some two years back told our guitar player through this forum that I played bass and was looking for people to play with who were into much of the bands people here talk about..if it wasn't for you the Cartel of today wouldn't have existed...so thanks to whoever it was(methinks Jaguar)...

[Medusa]

I can tell you I will be spinning your songs at the next upcoming ATMOSPHERE!     (Sunday 15 August 2004).
 
 Cheers
 
 DJ Medusa.

[Fico]

Originally posted by Medusa:
  I can tell you I will be spinning your songs at the next upcoming ATMOSPHERE!      (Sunday 15 August 2004).
 
 Cheers
 
 DJ Medusa.

Wow thanks a bunch...I will contact you as soon as we get a master copy back =)

[Barcelona]

Fico, did you get into rock music in the Dominican Republic or in the US. Not a criticism (actually I liked a lot the country and its people, I´d like to work there again), but there is not much rock music in the Dominican Republic. However, I remember a rock music bar in downtown Santo Domingo called Proud Mary, in the old neighborhood, close to all the historic monuments. Great bar. They played mostly rock from the seventies.

[Fico]

Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Fico, did you get into rock music in the Dominican Republic or in the US. Not a criticism (actually I liked a lot the country and its people, I´d like to work there again), but there is not much rock music in the Dominican Republic. However, I remember a rock music bar in downtown Santo Domingo called Proud Mary, in the old neighborhood, close to all the historic monuments. Great bar. They played mostly rock from the seventies.

Yes I did...as you know "rock en español" had it's heydey some 10 years ago with Soda Stero from Argentina and Caifanes/Jaguares from Mexico being the Beatles/Stones of spanish rock respectively. For some reason (and I've found it to be the latin case in general)bands like the Cure, the Police, Rush, the Smiths, New Order, U2, etc.. seemed to be massive in our spec of the woods..aside from these bands it was growing up to whatever was on MTV or FM radio...hence my poor knowledge of indie-music/college radio rock... Proud Mary is still there, actually some 2 years back my friends spotted Chris MArtin having dinner there (he was en route to Haiti for some Make Trade Fair ordeal)...I'm not sure when was the last time you were there but the city has changed a lot...the old city (Zona Colonial) has had a huge uplift and it's very hip nowadays...international DJs seem to be spinning every weekend and they opened a great small rock club which 9:30 aside blows away any DC venue.. as far as local acts Toque Profundo may be the only one around from your heydey back in 'Mingo...but some bands such as Auro&Clemt, Gonzalez, Sonico and Tribu del Sol have kept things really interesting... Assuming yer from Barcelona have you heard of a band called Aina?? they are from that area and they came to DC once with Burning Airlines and just left everyones jaw on the floor.. was never fond of Heroes del Silencio, Jarabe de Palo, Oreja de Van Gogh, etc... Mecano tho' is one of my guilty pleasures....and I absolutely luv Pedro Guerra.
 
 For those reading this thread and curios about the bands I've mentioned:
 
 Soda Stereo: seek Sueño Stereo, Dynamo or El Ultimo concierto I&II (live discs from their last show)
 
 Caifanes/Jaguares: Caifanes: El Nervio del Volcan, Historia (Greatest Hits). Jaguares: Bajo el Azul de tu Misterio (live disc included), El Equilibrio del Jaguar.