Positive effects of the DC smoking ban

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
   

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
   

Originally posted by root:
  hell what are the negative effects??          

you mean other than allowing the government to legislate away your rights and to force people to conduct themselves in ways the government sees fit?  give the govt. an inch, and they'll take a mile. [/b]

Its not time for you to convince the 70% that are for the ban that you have a right to make them breath your smoke.
 
 Go! [/b]

i bet you all wont be so "ban-happy" when they decide to go after alcohol, or the noise level of shows.  or perhaps some completely different freedom that you happen to enjoy.  but you can thank yourselves for letting the ban-ball rolling.
 
   i'm not threatening, and i am sure you dont see it now, but i agree with the Venerable one, give the govt an inch, they'll take a mile!

[sonickteam2]

this whole thing equates to: your favourite team having a horrible call go its way, to win a big game.  
 
  sure, technically the whole thing was gone about in an unfair, sour, and in a basically cheating manner, but since your team won....

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

I don't think the gov't will make a law that the majority of people aren't in favor of. That's why you'll never see abortion banned, no matter how much smoke conservatives blow out their ass.
 
 

Originally posted by le sonick:
   

Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
   

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
     

Originally posted by root:
  hell what are the negative effects??          

you mean other than allowing the government to legislate away your rights and to force people to conduct themselves in ways the government sees fit?  give the govt. an inch, and they'll take a mile. [/b]

Its not time for you to convince the 70% that are for the ban that you have a right to make them breath your smoke.
 
 Go! [/b]

i bet you all wont be so "ban-happy" when they decide to go after alcohol, or the noise level of shows.  or perhaps some completely different freedom that you happen to enjoy.  but you can thank yourselves for letting the ban-ball rolling.
 
   i'm not threatening, and i am sure you dont see it now, but i agree with the Venerable one, give the govt an inch, they'll take a mile! [/b]

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by Jack Black, Caucasian American:
  I don't think the gov't will make a law that the majority of people aren't in favor of. That's why you'll never see abortion banned, no matter how much smoke conservatives blow out their ass.
 

they better not blow that smoke at me!! i have a right to breathe clean air!!!!

[sweetcell]

the sky is falling!  the sky is faaaaaaaaaaaalling!!!
 
 all right then - let's get the ban-ball rolling already!  early targets should include:
 
 - bubblegum pop
 - people who park taking up two spaces
 - people who spill beer on you
 - stinky people in crowded club (bonus infraction for heavy perfum/cologne wearers)
 - religious funtamentalist preachers
 - tasteless beer
 
 take those "freedoms"... please!

[sweetcell]

Originally posted by le sonick:
  this whole thing equates to: your favourite team having a horrible call go its way, to win a big game.  
 
  sure, technically the whole thing was gone about in an unfair, sour, and in a basically cheating manner, but since your team won....

actually, sonick, i see it the other way: your team is on the losing end of a fair, logical call - and you're crying injustice for any reason you can attach to it  :p

[Bombay Chutney]

Originally posted by sweetcell:
 - people who spill beer on you
 

I would have gladly voted for that one at last night's Scissor Sisters show.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by sweetcell:
   

Originally posted by le sonick:
  this whole thing equates to: your favourite team having a horrible call go its way, to win a big game.  
 
  sure, technically the whole thing was gone about in an unfair, sour, and in a basically cheating manner, but since your team won....

actually, sonick, i see it the other way: your team is on the losing end of a fair, logical call - and you're crying injustice for any reason you can attach to it      

[floyd1975]

I hope they ban standing at all concerts.  I have the right to enjoy the show just as much as the taller people in front of me.  Every concert in DC should be seated only.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by floyd:
  I hope they ban standing at all concerts.  I have the right to enjoy the show just as much as the taller people in front of me.  Every concert in DC should be seated only.

but i have bad circulation and i cant sit for that long!!!!

[sweetcell]

vote?  what, you think you're in a democracy?!?   when you set up the analogy (a bad call going your way), there's no talk of voting.  when i flip the analogy around to something closer to the truth, in my opnion, all of a sudden it has to go to a vote?!?        
 
 yup, i'm a part-time smoker.  i had 2 cigs on saturday night, first ones in a week, haven't had any since.  while i enjoy an occasional cigarette, i'm not waxing over what i'm doing - it's smelly habit that kills.  doing it indoors means that i'm hurting others who never asked for my smoke.  i'm completely opposed to the notion that one has a "right" to smoke in public places or places open to the public.  i realize others disagree.  that said, i doubt that i'll completely give it up anytime soon.
 
   

Originally posted by le sonick:
  did i complain at the forum party when we stepped outside for cigarettes on occasion. personally i kinda like using the cigarette break as an excuse to step away from the party/show whatever.  
 
   besides, smoking conversation is always better, something the non-smokers just dont get            

nope, you never complained, and indeed those conversations are a lot of fun.  look at it this way - the ban makes us smokers pariahs - instant community!

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

Word.
 
 

Originally posted by floyd:
  I hope they ban standing at all concerts.  I have the right to enjoy the show just as much as the taller people in front of me.  Every concert in DC should be seated only.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by sweetcell:
  vote?  what, you think you're in a democracy?!?   when you set up the analogy (a bad call going your way), there's no talk of voting.  when i flip the analogy around to something closer to the truth, in my opnion, all of a sudden it has to go to a vote?!?      
 

exactly, because had their been a vote, it wouldn't have been a "bad call".
 
   call it down the middle and say "a questionable call"  
 
   and as much as i'd like to discuss this AGAIN...i'm going for a smoke break!

[Venerable Bede]

Originally posted by sweetcell:
   doing it indoors means that i'm hurting others who never asked for my smoke.  i'm completely opposed to the notion that one has a "right" to smoke in public places or places open to the public.  i realize others disagree.  that said, i doubt that i'll completely give it up anytime soon.
 

maybe. . but smoking isn't illegal.  
 
 frankly, what i am more upset with is the crusade that anti-smoking activists are on these days.  a vocal minority is imposing it's view and will upon a disinterested majority. each and every day, bit by bit, the ability of all of us to make our own choices is being taken away, be it from one side of the aisle or the other, in the name of national security or in the name of the children.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

Sounds like the same crusade the anti-War protestors were on when they started.
 
 I think the vast majority of Americans are disinterested in the smoking in bars issue because the vast majority of Americans don't frequent bars.
 
 Of those who do frequent bars, I would hazzard a guess that they ARE in favor of having smoking banned, but not to the point where they'd actually have to do be politically active to get it accomplished.
 
 
   

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
 

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 frankly, what i am more upset with is the crusade that anti-smoking activists are on these days.  a vocal minority is imposing it's view and will upon a disinterested majority.  [/b]