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lionforce5

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Re: Coachella 2005
« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2005, 09:40:00 am »
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  i think i am going to pass this year. some good bands, but not enough.
Agreed.  Portishead might have sealed the deal for me on Day Two, but otherwise I've either seen or will see most of those bands when they pass through this year.

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Re: Coachella 2005
« Reply #31 on: January 31, 2005, 09:50:00 am »
CRITIC'S NOTEBOOK
 
 Coachella lineup may be its best
 
 In six years, the weekend-long music festival has become the most important, grand-scale rock music experience in the country.
 By Robert Hilburn
 LA Times Staff Writer
 
 Jan 31 2005
 
 Bono, who has taken over Pete Townshend's role of resident philosopher in rock, believes the hardest thing in pop music isn't creating hits but remaining relevant â?? and the challenge doesn't apply to just musicians.
 
 As the guiding force behind the annual Coachella Valley Music and Art Festival, Paul Tollett has built the weekend affair in just six years into the most important, grand-scale rock music experience in the country by presenting the best and most relevant, not just popular, rock acts.
 
 And this year's lineup â?? which will be announced today â?? may be the strongest yet. It's highlighted by such acclaimed veteran or upcoming acts as Coldplay, Nine Inch Nails, Gang of Four, Wilco and Bright Eyes.
 
 One sign of Coachella's hold on the pop imagination is that fans look forward to the talent lineup announcement each year with almost as much fervor as the show itself. When it comes to the festival's integrity, that talent bill is as important in many ways as the actual performances.
 
 The fear is that Tollett and his Goldenvoice team will began going for merely popular acts to help boost attendance, but there's no sign of that in the talent list for the April 30 and May 1 concerts at the Empire Polo Field in Indio. (All 80-plus acts, including the usual parade of DJs, will be announced today on the festival website: www.coachella.com.)
 
 Coldplay, the most heralded arena-level band from Britain since Radiohead, will headline the opening-day program, which also includes Wilco, Bauhaus, Cocteau Twins, the Chemical Brothers, Snow Patrol, Rilo Kiley, Sage Francis, Mercury Rev, Bloc Party and the Kills on various stages over nearly 12 hours.
 
 The second-day lineup is even more enticing â?? headed by the return to action of Trent Reznor's Nine Inch Nails, which stood alongside Nirvana as one of the most captivating groups in '90s rock.
 
 The appearances by the graceful, gently melodic Coldplay and far darker and more aggressive Nine Inch Nails are especially timely because both bands will be previewing material from much-anticipated albums. (Coldplay will also be playing a KCRW-FM benefit March 12 at the Universal Amphitheatre).
 
 There's no release date for the Coldplay album, but "With Teeth," the first new Nine Inch Nails album in six years, will be in stores two days after the Coachella show. The CD is a confident, accessible work, far more in keeping with 1994's brilliant "The Downward Spiral" than 1999's striking but sometimes impenetrable "The Fragile."
 
 Rivaling Reznor for attention Sunday will be Bright Eyes featuring Conor Oberst, whose new albums â?? the acoustic "I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning" and the electronica-based "Digital Ash in a Digital Urn" â?? are among the most widely acclaimed collections in years.
 
 Oberst performed on the second stage at last year's Coachella, but the buzz on him was in its infancy, which means this year's set will carry the extra tension of seeing if he can live up to mounting expectations.
 
 Speaking of buzz, Arcade Fire, a Canadian rock band with a wonderfully original way of looking at issues of salvation and loss, has emerged in recent months as another critical darling. It will be interesting to see how the group, a huge hit in local club shows recently, responds to the larger stage. Given the Fire's passionate, highly animated performance style, the odds are it'll be well received.
 
 Two other respected British outfits will also be reintroducing themselves to U.S. audiences: Gang of Four, the hugely influential British band from the '70s whose influence has been cited by such upcoming groups as Franz Ferdinand and the Futureheads, and New Order, the synth-pop outfit best known for such hits as "Blue Monday."
 
 The support acts on Sunday will also include the return of the Prodigy, whose 2002 appearance at Coachella failed to jump-start its comeback attempt, plus such highly touted newcomers as M.I.A., the Futureheads, British Sea Power, the Fiery Furnaces, the Dresden Dolls, Autolux and the Bravery. Tickets, priced at $80 for one day or $150 for both, go on sale Saturday.
 
 What makes the Coachella setting such a challenge for all these bands is that the festival crowd, which averaged 50,000 a day last year, tends to be more discriminating than the average pop audience. Thus, the word of mouth from the show â?? along with the views of critics who come to Coachella from around the country â?? can be unusually helpful or damaging to an act.
 
 In fact, Coachella compresses two months of savvy clubgoing into a weekend. You also have the luxury of just moving on to another tent or stage if one band doesn't prove interesting.
 
 As of press time Sunday, Tollett was still wrestling with adding another major American rock act to the bill before today's announcement. He also has to try to find a solution to the horrific traffic congestion that has plagued past Coachella events.
 
 Mainly, however, the biggest hurdle has been overcome. The talent is booked and Bono's challenge shifts to the musicians, both the veterans and those so new they are known to local rock fans only as names in British pop papers. Now it's their turn to prove on stage they are as relevant in today's rock world as Coachella itself.

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Re: Coachella 2005
« Reply #32 on: January 31, 2005, 11:40:00 am »
I am going...I've always wanted to see New Order and the 2002 DVD actually shows them in peak form. I have a feeling they'll be great, they're the ones I want to see most...esp. given that they play a fair amount of Joy Division songs and Barney can pull off stuff like "Transmission". It would be worth it just hear that.
 
 Gang of Four, Bauhaus, Cocteau Twins, the Chemical Brothers, even the Prodigy...what can I say. I still think I prefer last year's line-up, but this is going to be great. I had a wonderful time last year and I'm excited about this one too.

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Re: Coachella 2005
« Reply #33 on: January 31, 2005, 11:46:00 am »
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Gang of Four, Bauhaus, Cocteau Twins, the Chemical Brothers, even the Prodigy...what can I say.  
is that a good thing or a bad thing? this nostalgia kick is out of control. there are hardly any bands playing that are currently at their peak. i mean, even wilco, black star, etc. peaked a while ago. you've got arcade fire, jean grae, british sea power, wolf eyes ... if you like secret machines, fiery furnaces and ambulance, i guess. and you could see all of those bands headline their own shows at the 930 or black cat for a combined, what, $75-$80?

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« Reply #34 on: January 31, 2005, 11:50:00 am »
I am 29 years old, I missed A LOT of these bands (except for the Cocteau Twins). Besides, a band like X is better live now then they were in the early 80's (for example, even though they're not at Coachella), the Pixies played more consistently on this last tour than they did back in the day. Personally, age doesn't mean that a band will suck. I don't care about nostalgia. Good music stands the test of time, and everyone will be dead soon enough. I'm glad I saw the Ramones when I did. I say just enjoy the music for what it is, enjoy some warmth, enjoy the drugs...whatever  :)  I'll be meeting up with friends there and it will hopefully be a fun time.

Re: Coachella 2005
« Reply #35 on: January 31, 2005, 11:58:00 am »
Ironic that the progressive music of the 80's now is scorned by the trendies in the same way classic rock was scorned by trendies in the 80's.
 
 
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  I am 29 years old, I missed A LOT of these bands (except for the Cocteau Twins). Besides, a band like X is better live now then they were in the early 80's (for example, even though they're not at Coachella), the Pixies played more consistently on this last tour than they did back in the day. Personally, age doesn't mean that a band will suck. I don't care about nostalgia. Good music stands the test of time, and everyone will be dead soon enough. I'm glad I saw the Ramones when I did. I say just enjoy the music for what it is, enjoy some warmth, enjoy the drugs...whatever   :)   I'll be meeting up with friends there and it will hopefully be a fun time.

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Re: Coachella 2005
« Reply #36 on: January 31, 2005, 12:03:00 pm »
In my opinion this years lineup is not as good as last years but I am going either way.  The "headliners" of last year were much more impressive in my opinion but this years "middle tier" is leaps and bounds better..... again all my opinion.
 
 I have bought the tix and made reservations, should be a great time.  Only thing left to wish for is a little cooler temps than last year!!

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« Reply #37 on: January 31, 2005, 12:05:00 pm »
I was too young to go to concerts in the 80's though I listened to a lot of that music back then. So for me it will be a fun time.

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« Reply #38 on: January 31, 2005, 12:09:00 pm »
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  Ironic that the progressive music of the 80's now is scorned by the trendies in the same way classic rock was scorned by trendies in the 80's.
 
how is it being scorned by the trendies? Bauhaus, New Order, Cocteau Twins, Gang Of four, all at the trendiest show in America!

Re: Coachella 2005
« Reply #39 on: January 31, 2005, 12:14:00 pm »
Read BookerT's post.
 
 In my high school, the rednecks who favored "nostalgia" music from the 70's like Zeppelin, etc. called people who listened to alternative music "faggots." Now, people are complaining that that which was once progressive is now "nostalgia."
 
 
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Ironic that the progressive music of the 80's now is scorned by the trendies in the same way classic rock was scorned by trendies in the 80's.
 
how is it being scorned by the trendies? Bauhaus, New Order, Cocteau Twins, Gang Of four, all at the trendiest show in America! [/b]

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Re: Coachella 2005
« Reply #40 on: January 31, 2005, 12:17:00 pm »
coldplay a headliner over bauhaus is so much worse than radiohead headlining over the pixies...the difference is that coldplay completely blows and at least radiohead is a decent act.  i'm definitely not going this year although there are a handful of bands i'd really like to see.  i'm just hoping that bauhaus and mercury rev do a full us tour in addition to the coachella gig.
 
 whoever said it earlier is exactly right...i've seen arcade fire, secret machines, fiery furnaces, etc., on their recent stops in dc and guaranteed they'll be coming back.  not going to spend $500+ this year to see them play a 30 minute set in the hot desert.
 
 bummer day tho.  i was hoping for a much better line-up.

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« Reply #41 on: January 31, 2005, 12:25:00 pm »
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Read BookerT's post.
 
 In my high school, the rednecks who favored "nostalgia" music from the 70's like Zeppelin, etc. called people who listened to alternative music "faggots." Now, people are complaining that that which was once progressive is now "nostalgia."
it's not quite that. i love new order plenty, i listen to PC&L all the time, but that record came out over 20 years ago. i'd argue that these "progressive" bands exist presently more as money-making vehicles more than artistic endeavors. frank black admitted as much with the whole pixies thing. that's not to say that the pixies didn't put on a great show or that new order isn't capable of doing the same.
 
 or maybe i did just mean what rhett said, he's never wrong.

Re: Coachella 2005
« Reply #42 on: January 31, 2005, 12:33:00 pm »
All bands exist as money making endeavors.  Even the crappy ones I listen to who don't make much money.
 
   
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Read BookerT's post.
 
 In my high school, the rednecks who favored "nostalgia" music from the 70's like Zeppelin, etc. called people who listened to alternative music "faggots." Now, people are complaining that that which was once progressive is now "nostalgia."
it's not quite that. i love new order plenty, i listen to PC&L all the time, but that record came out over 20 years ago. i'd argue that these "progressive" bands exist presently more as money-making vehicles more than artistic endeavors. frank black admitted as much with the whole pixies thing. that's not to say that the pixies didn't put on a great show or that new order isn't capable of doing the same.
 
 or maybe i did just mean what rhett said, he's never wrong. [/b]

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« Reply #43 on: January 31, 2005, 12:42:00 pm »
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All bands exist as money making endeavors.  
no shit. my point is that i'd rather see a band that's currently making its best music than a band that made good music 20 years ago.
 
 who would you rather see in 2005, bobby bare jr. or, say, roger mcguinn?

Re: Coachella 2005
« Reply #44 on: January 31, 2005, 12:46:00 pm »
You are right. I am just playing devils advocate. I actually agree with you on this one. I'd rather see the more relevant artists. As I said, I just think it's ironic that the musical trailblazers are now "nostalgia."
 
 
 
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All bands exist as money making endeavors.  
no shit. my point is that i'd rather see a band that's currently making its best music than a band that made good music 20 years ago.
 
 who would you rather see in 2005, bobby bare jr. or, say, roger mcguinn? [/b]