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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on January 02, 2009, 09:48:18 pm
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OK, so me and the girlie have lived here since August and never really got to know our neighbors, other then seeing them in the yard or some nonsense like that. They're middle-aged, and we've never had a problem with them other than that they don't dress well and look like burnt out hipsters.
Well, recently I started driving a new way home from the office because I got Smart Tag and at the corner of this one side street are these two bums who are always panhandling cars and the guy holds a sign saying "homeless." I never really paid that much attention to them because I was driving and they're filthy. I mean, if I was walking down the street, I'd probably give them something, but not while I'm driving.
So anyway, earlier today, I got stopped at the traffic light there for the first time, and I looked over and realized that these bums who are camped out on this same corner everyday are, in fact, my neighbors, who live just a few blocks away. I thought I had to be mistaken so once I got home I parked and went over to the neighbors house to see if anyone was home. Nope. So, then, I decided I had to be proactive because, fuck, I'm in my mid-twenties and in a committed relationship and have to think about more then just myself. If I was 22 and wanted to live next to vagrants, that's one thing, but I have the girl to think about, and this is not what she signed up for.
Anyway, I walked back over there, and they were still there and I called out my neighbors name and the guy asked what was up. I asked him what the hell he was doing and he was like what do you mean? I was like, um, you're holding a homeless sign and asking people for money and you live next door to me. He said they'd been doing it for years and it was better than working construction -- ew!! -- because as long as he did it in Cary Town it was consistently like $25/hour and more on the weekends. I asked him if he had any qualms about lying because he was purporting to be homeless when he in fact had a home, and he told me to fuck off and mind my own business.
Needless to say, I am pretty freaked out. I called my friend Ricky who's an appraiser and had him pull up the property info since he has access to the cities database and all that jazz, and sure enough they own the house and have for 2.5 years and it's worth over $400,000, which probably isn't alot in you guys' area, but is definitely above-average for metro Richmond.
So, I guess, I don't know what to do. I mean, this is my neighborhood, and we chose to move here because we liked the Cary Town community, so I cannot, in good conscience, just watch people like this live on my own street. It's like living next to a child molester. I called the police non-emergency line and asked if they could be arrested on some sort of fraud charge or tax evasion thing because they are collecting money under false pretenses and clearly not paying taxes which I'm sure is some sort of defrauding the charitable spirit of others law or something, and the officer laughed at me.
I just don't know where to go from here. Obviously I have to tell my girlfriend eventually, because she has a right to know, but she's going to freak out even more than me so I need an action plan. I don't really want to move, but I guess we're going to have to unless we figure out someway to stop these people or force them to move. I suppose I have to tell the other neighbors, and maybe we can all take shifts hanging out on the same corner as these people telling everyone who comes by that they're not homeless and they're big frauds and after a few days of no money maybe they'll quit. I dunno, they'll probably just go to another side of town and still live there though, and they might get belligerent or something.
So, does anyone have any advice -- legal or otherwise -- about how I should proceed? Has anyone ever found themselves in a situation like this before?
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that's insane, but why would you move because of it? i mean, it is a crazy story and all, and you can certainly try to stop them, but how does it tamper with your living situation?
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What? I don't see how you can even ask something like that. We have criminals, unsavory vagrant panhandlers, living mere feet from where we sleep, where we dine, where we store our champagne handbags. We could wake up one morning and these people could have bashed in one of our cars windows and be claiming squatters rights over our backseat. Our picturesque, trendy bohemian neighborhood has had the foul stench of urban blight come rushing onto our front porch; we cannot continue to live here and put ourselves and everything we hold dear in jeopardy unless these people are forced to go. My question is how do we do that.
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You're the mid to late 20 something living with a 19 year old. I'd say they're the ones living next to a child molestor. ;D
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It's just awful when property renters are forced to live with the transient, nomadic ways of homeowners. The value of your month-to-month lease must be plummeting.
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I live in Richmond too. What corner are they on?
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check your privates (email) julian. ;)
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I live in Richmond too. What corner are they on?
Idlewood and Boulevard. It might be one block up from Boulevard if you're getting off downtown expressway, but definitely on Idlewood, by that big church.
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actually, this is 2009 the last time i checked, and most people are bat shit crazy. if these people are ballsy enough to pull this off, don't doubt they'd be stupid enough to do something to you and your girlfriend if you "intervened." welcome to this great country/culture we live in. do nothing else, wait a week, go to the media with no names given; someone always loves a story like this, especially in these "hard times." it might go all the way to cnn.
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You're the mid to late 20 something living with a 19 year old. I'd say they're the ones living next to a child molestor. ;D
She's 20. Don't be mean.
It's just awful when property renters are forced to live with the transient, nomadic ways of homeowners. The value of your month-to-month lease must be plummeting.
I like how, in your mind, being a homeowner trumps how someone makes their money, and if I rent I have no cause for complaint when there's a dangerous, corrupting influence in the neighborhood, threatening my very way of life.
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do nothing else, wait a week, go to the media with no names given; someone always loves a story like this, especially in these "hard times." it might go all the way to cnn.
That's actually pretty solid.
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me . . . ? i gave good advice? :o ooh, ooh, i'm touching myself. brb.
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What did they do that's dangerous? Did I miss something?
It's just awful when property renters are forced to live with the transient, nomadic ways of homeowners. The value of your month-to-month lease must be plummeting.
I like how, in your mind, being a homeowner trumps how someone makes their money, and if I rent I have no cause for complaint when there's a dangerous, corrupting influence in the neighborhood, threatening my very way of life.
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That's a pretty funny story. Beyond that, why the urge to do anything? Part of living among neighbors is learning to live and let live. They're not harming you and until you discovered their little secret, they seemed normal. It's pretty sketchy but at least they're not on welfare and taking your tax dollars.
Furthermore, there may be more to the story that they didn't feel like sharing with you, the neighbor who previously never bothered to talk to them -- for example, maybe they can't work construction anymore because all the jobs have gone away, and they have to do this in order to continue to afford their mortgage.
Bottom line is if it's not affecting you it's none of your business -- so chillax and stop acting like a fussy old lady.
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is this whole thread a joke? Julian, you need to get a life.
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Ditto what Doom and Num said.
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Don't be so certain. There could potentially be dozens of dollar at stake here. That's dozens with a 'd' folks.
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Must suck to be you Julian. Maybe you should take up residence in a Norman Rockwell painting. My advice? Don't be such an insufferable prick.
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oh how the burberry stock do tumble.
this board is a vicious henhouse.
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suck it up. People do stupid shit all the time.
Go ask your parents. Maybe they're more open minded than you. Part of living in America is minding your own fucking business. I wasn't born here, but I learned that the moment I got here.
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youve got to be kidding, right? its not even your business what your neighbors do/are doing, unless it directly affects you. if not - just shut up and do your own thing and theyll do theirs. i mean would it bother you if instead they were making gay porn and you figured that out by seeing in their window?
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youve got to be kidding, right? its not even your business what your neighbors do/are doing, unless it directly affects you. if not - just shut up and do your own thing and theyll do theirs. i mean would it bother you if instead they were making gay porn and you figured that out by seeing in their window?
uhmmmmmm . . . .
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there's a dangerous, corrupting influence in the neighborhood, threatening my very way of life.
srsly? jules, how are these people a threat? sure, they're repugnant, scheming low-lifes - but that's a mild disturbance, not a threat. are you concerned that they'll raid your abode and steal stuff? take you hostage fro ransom? make you join them on that street corner?!? what?!?
btw, you asked "My neighbors are big, fat liars. Advice?". the only thing you can really work on is the "fat" part. i suggest you take an interest in their eating habits (cut out fats and processed carbs, up the fruit and veg), maybe invite them on your morning jogs, encourage them to seek a weight-loss support group if they're in to that kind of thing, etc.
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Sweets, this doesn't fall into the 98% of societal ills that can be solved by Julian's Americaning.
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i like how some people are forgetting that they are not paying taxes more than likely, and there is this little thing called unemployment that we all pay for not being used here.
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and everybody knows that homeless people are either all drunks or mental cases. five keeps the neighborhood alive.
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You're the mid to late 20 something living with a 19 year old. I'd say they're the ones living next to a child molestor. ;D
you're stupid. that is a perfectly normal age difference. i'm 18 and my boyfriend is 24. no one is molesting any children.
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So then it's all about matching intellect and shared life experiences? Are you aheaad of the curve in those categories, or is he lagging behind?
You're the mid to late 20 something living with a 19 year old. I'd say they're the ones living next to a child molestor. ;D
you're stupid. that is a perfectly normal age difference. i'm 18 and my boyfriend is 24. no one is molesting any children.
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And this is why I sometimes tend to forget that Charlie and Julian are different people.
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Haha. I always confuse you with this guy.
(http://celebrityapes.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/alan-colmes.jpg)
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I always confuse you with this product.
(http://www.mediabistro.com/prnewser/original/Douche.jpg)
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Julian- I wish I could tell a story like you.
Why aren't you concerned with the folks in your community who are dumb enough to give your neighbors money? The 'homeless' who only appear during peak traffic times just give the real ones a bum rap.
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speaking of homeless, if you're ever approached by someone selling "Street Sense," it's worth the buck to buy it, both because you'll make someone happy who is for-real homeless, and because it offers some interesting insight into another world while you're sitting on the Metro or whatever.
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speaking of homeless, if you're ever approached by someone selling "Street Sense," it's worth the buck to buy it, both because you'll make someone happy who is for-real homeless, and because it offers some interesting insight into another world while you're sitting on the Metro or whatever.
street sense - step one, drink booze. step two, talk to invisible demons everywhere you go.
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step 3, start a new thread on the 930 Forum
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step 3, start a new thread on the 930 Forum
hey . . . i only drink booze on rare occasions, and the demons i talk to are clearly not invisible.
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How do you know they aren't paying taxes? You have no clue.
If you don't think they are you could report them to the IRS.
http://www.irs.gov/individuals/article/0,,id=106778,00.html
You should mind you own business though, and fuck off. But since they already think you are a douche bag(you are) might as well go all the way.
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How do you know they aren't paying taxes? You have no clue.
If you don't think they are you could report them to the IRS.
http://www.irs.gov/individuals/article/0,,id=106778,00.html
You should mind you own business though, and fuck off. But since they already think you are a douche bag(you are) might as well go all the way.
and fernwright comes out swinging . . . a hit . . . it's back, it's back, it's, no good. sorry.
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Walkonby, on an unrelated note, I saw "Milk" this weekend and now I better understand why you're so uppity.
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wait, you rent (eww) in the city of richmond (gross) next to hipster-looking folks (gasp). do you really expect your neighbors to have proper employment?
please tell me that there is a gate surrounding your community or at least your country club is convenient
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Homeless (not) tax-evaders made for an interesting breakfast read. Initially, anyway. The story went in another direction than I anticipated. In No. VA, generally neighbors call on each other about parked cars, dog poop* and their kids entering the invisible yard line.
If the cop wanted to get them on loitering or something, they wouldn't have laughed.
If they are not on your property or threatening you, I say, leave them alone. If you do anything, they could retaliate. (*reference neighbor disputes about poop & dogs)
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Walkonby, on an unrelated note, I saw "Milk" this weekend and now I better understand why you're so uppity.
i like in the 1930's when "uppity" meant being high.
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Walkonby, on an unrelated note, I saw "Milk" this weekend and now I better understand why you're so uppity.
i like in the 1930's when "uppity" meant being high.
Or, if you were black, it meant you were dead or soon to be.
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Walkonby, on an unrelated note, I saw "Milk" this weekend and now I better understand why you're so uppity.
i like in the 1930's when "uppity" meant being high.
Or, if you were black, it meant you were dead or soon to be.
actually, the term uppity meaning high in the 1930's, came from the black jazz world.