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Title: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: rich_WDC on January 14, 2009, 04:53:37 pm
http://www.rockhall.com/induction2009
ROCK & ROLL HALL OF FAME - 2009:
The performer inductees are:
Jeff Beck
Little Anthony & the Imperials
Metallica
Run-D.M.C.
Bobby Womack

Early Influence Category Inductee:
Wanda Jackson

Sidemen Category Inductees:
Bill Black
DJ Fontana
Spooner Oldham

Title: Re: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: dave24 on January 14, 2009, 05:33:47 pm
JEFF FREAKIN' BECK!!!!


that's all I have to say about that.
Title: Re: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: walkonby on January 14, 2009, 06:48:23 pm
i really wanted to snag rerelease ticketmaster where did these come from tickets online for this, but since it was now and the amount of people in town and i guess some of the fans of the show can be questionable, but i'm having a hard time finding a band without that pleasure, i said well maybe not.  but metallica live to me i know would blow me the f away.  (rim shot to anyone needing to make a joke at that last part)
Title: Re: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on January 14, 2009, 06:54:54 pm
What are you, like 60 or smething?

JEFF FREAKIN' BECK!!!!


that's all I have to say about that.
Title: Re: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on January 14, 2009, 07:14:08 pm
What are you, like 60 or smething?

JEFF FREAKIN' BECK!!!!


that's all I have to say about that.

i was going to guess 23
Title: Re: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on January 14, 2009, 07:49:06 pm
Jeff Beck is an incredibly underrated guitarist.  I'm glad to see him get this (pretty much worthless) honor.
Title: Re: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: dave24 on January 14, 2009, 08:11:33 pm
Somewhere between 23 & 60, but closer to 23... a long-time guitar player.  You just gotta listen to him.  His newer releases are just as good as his older ones.  Would you wonder any of the same things if I said ERIC FREAKING CLAPTON or JIMMY FREAKING PAGE, he was another of the original Yardbirds guitar players, along with Clapton and Page.  He's not as decorated, but possibly as good or better.  Take a listen for yourselves if you get a chance.  Jeff Beck rocks.  (his show at 9:30 around 2001 was one of the tougher tickets the club has seen)
Title: Re: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: Herr Professor Doktor Doom on January 14, 2009, 08:54:04 pm
Jeff Beck is a legend, I'm not sure what "underrated" means in that context.

As for Metallica...  it's been hard to have any respect for them since Lars Ulrich's crusade against Napster.

Title: Re: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on January 14, 2009, 09:00:27 pm
how about NELS FREAKING CLINE?

I guess I'm just not into the whole guitar god thing.

My 58 year old father in law loves Jeff Beck though.

Somewhere between 23 & 60, but closer to 23... a long-time guitar player.  You just gotta listen to him.  His newer releases are just as good as his older ones.  Would you wonder any of the same things if I said ERIC FREAKING CLAPTON or JIMMY FREAKING PAGE, he was another of the original Yardbirds guitar players, along with Clapton and Page.  He's not as decorated, but possibly as good or better.  Take a listen for yourselves if you get a chance.  Jeff Beck rocks.  (his show at 9:30 around 2001 was one of the tougher tickets the club has seen)
Title: Re: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on January 14, 2009, 09:20:42 pm
how about NELS FREAKING CLINE?

I guess I'm just not into the whole guitar god thing.

My 58 year old father in law loves Jeff Beck though.

Somewhere between 23 & 60, but closer to 23... a long-time guitar player.  You just gotta listen to him.  His newer releases are just as good as his older ones.  Would you wonder any of the same things if I said ERIC FREAKING CLAPTON or JIMMY FREAKING PAGE, he was another of the original Yardbirds guitar players, along with Clapton and Page.  He's not as decorated, but possibly as good or better.  Take a listen for yourselves if you get a chance.  Jeff Beck rocks.  (his show at 9:30 around 2001 was one of the tougher tickets the club has seen)

Nels is the best guitarist I've ever seen, and is probably my personal favorite.  I really want to get to one of his solo shows someday.

And when I called Jeff Beck underrated, I meant that he's a name that doesn't come up often enough when "great rock guitarists" are discussed.  I personally put him above guys like Hendrix, and think more people should as well.  Problem is, many people who are into "guitar gods" probably don't look to deep into the music Beck played.  The average classic rock loving kid is most likely NOT going to acknowledge the greatness of an album like Blow By Blow.  Which is a huge shame...
Title: Re: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: diediemydarling on January 15, 2009, 04:28:47 pm
spooner oldham rules!
Title: Re: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: walkonby on January 15, 2009, 04:30:57 pm
is the forum where all the threadjackers go to die?
Title: Re: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: Relaxer on January 16, 2009, 10:44:02 am
How was the show last night?
Title: Re: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on January 16, 2009, 10:53:11 am
Is he still playing keys for the Drive By Truckers?

spooner oldham rules!
Title: Re: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: Vas Deferens on January 16, 2009, 10:55:00 am
Hard to assess a show when you are not that familiar with the band (I'm only familiar with the Black album). My buddy was very disappointed with the show due to the setlist. He said "nothing from St. Anger, nothing from Load, nothing from ReLoad...they basically just played all their '80s hits and ignored the albums that they've put out within the last 10 years. It's the same show from exactly 15 years ago. New songs are terrible."
Title: Re: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: Relaxer on January 16, 2009, 10:59:10 am
Hard to assess a show when you are not that familiar with the band (I'm only familiar with the Black album). My buddy was very disappointed with the show due to the setlist. He said "nothing from St. Anger, nothing from Load, nothing from ReLoad...they basically just played all their '80s hits and ignored the albums that they've put out within the last 10 years. It's the same show from exactly 15 years ago."

That's funny because if I would've gone, I probably would have said "It was AWESOME, nothing from St. Anger, nothing from Load, nothing from ReLoad...they basically (and awesomely) just played their [cough cough] '80s hits and awesomely ignored the shitty albums that they've put out within the last 10 years."
Title: Re: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: Vas Deferens on January 16, 2009, 11:09:00 am
He likes St. Anger for some reason. It's experimental he says??

Something is stuck in my mind now after the show, and it is:

OBEY YOUR MASTER!  I've been singing that line this morning...

Can't complain about the show since I got in free. I thought the Black album songs sounded great and that OBEY YOUR MASTER song!!!
Title: Re: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: Vas Deferens on January 16, 2009, 11:21:27 am
relaxer, do you like the butt on my signature?
Title: Re: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: Relaxer on January 16, 2009, 11:24:02 am
I like it very much, and no, it does not look fat in those jeans.
Title: Re: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: Vas Deferens on January 16, 2009, 11:28:37 am
 :P

I like it very much, and no, it does not look fat in those jeans.
Title: Re: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: Relaxer on January 16, 2009, 12:26:22 pm
Wait, that's not what you originally posted. Are you censoring yourself? Don't do it, run free little lamb, run free and nuzzle where you like
Title: Re: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: Vas Deferens on January 16, 2009, 12:29:41 pm
It's inappropriate... ;)
 
Wait, that's not what you originally posted. Are you censoring yourself? Don't do it, run free little lamb, run free and nuzzle where you like
Title: Re: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: chaz on January 16, 2009, 01:01:17 pm
Hard to assess a show when you are not that familiar with the band (I'm only familiar with the Black album). My buddy was very disappointed with the show due to the setlist. He said "nothing from St. Anger, nothing from Load, nothing from ReLoad...they basically just played all their '80s hits and ignored the albums that they've put out within the last 10 years. It's the same show from exactly 15 years ago."

That's funny because if I would've gone, I probably would have said "It was AWESOME, nothing from St. Anger, nothing from Load, nothing from ReLoad...they basically (and awesomely) just played their [cough cough] '80s hits and awesomely ignored the shitty albums that they've put out within the last 10 years."

Ditto.  And BTW, "Obey your master" is Master of Puppetts.
Title: Re: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: nkotb on January 16, 2009, 01:06:08 pm
Honestly, who wants to hear shit from the last few albums?  Give me Battery, Master of Puppets and One and that would be ticket money well-spent.

Hard to assess a show when you are not that familiar with the band (I'm only familiar with the Black album). My buddy was very disappointed with the show due to the setlist. He said "nothing from St. Anger, nothing from Load, nothing from ReLoad...they basically just played all their '80s hits and ignored the albums that they've put out within the last 10 years. It's the same show from exactly 15 years ago."

That's funny because if I would've gone, I probably would have said "It was AWESOME, nothing from St. Anger, nothing from Load, nothing from ReLoad...they basically (and awesomely) just played their [cough cough] '80s hits and awesomely ignored the shitty albums that they've put out within the last 10 years."

Ditto.  And BTW, "Obey your master" is Master of Puppetts.
Title: Re: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: Vas Deferens on January 16, 2009, 01:12:46 pm
Master nkotb: They did all 3!   ;D  I think my buddy has seen them way too many times in the past that he wanted a different setlist this time around..

chaz: I know it's called Master of Puppets, but I just want to tell Relaxer to OBEY HIS MASTER!

Honestly, who wants to hear shit from the last few albums?  Give me Battery, Master of Puppets and One and that would be ticket money well-spent.

Hard to assess a show when you are not that familiar with the band (I'm only familiar with the Black album). My buddy was very disappointed with the show due to the setlist. He said "nothing from St. Anger, nothing from Load, nothing from ReLoad...they basically just played all their '80s hits and ignored the albums that they've put out within the last 10 years. It's the same show from exactly 15 years ago."

That's funny because if I would've gone, I probably would have said "It was AWESOME, nothing from St. Anger, nothing from Load, nothing from ReLoad...they basically (and awesomely) just played their [cough cough] '80s hits and awesomely ignored the shitty albums that they've put out within the last 10 years."

Ditto.  And BTW, "Obey your master" is Master of Puppetts.
Title: Re: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: Relaxer on January 16, 2009, 04:30:08 pm
but I just want to tell Relaxer to OBEY HIS MASTER!

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Title: Re: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: sweetcell on January 29, 2009, 07:04:24 pm
That's funny because if I would've gone, I probably would have said "It was AWESOME, nothing from St. Anger, nothing from Load, nothing from ReLoad...they basically (and awesomely) just played their [cough cough] '80s hits and awesomely ignored the shitty albums that they've put out within the last 10 years."

that's certainly what i'm hoping for this saturday - just scored myself some 6th row seat for the show in newark.  a metallica show in the heart of jersey - please pray for me.

for those who attended: who went on first, sword or machine head?  i definitely want to catch the sword, but could do without machine head (or are they good live?)
Title: Re: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: Relaxer on January 29, 2009, 10:05:29 pm
I have no knowledge on this, but I would suspect that the Sword would be first, followed by MH.

Hope the show is good and you have a ball. Report back, ya corn!

ONE! TWO! [riff] [riff] [rock] [rock] [own] [own]
Title: Re: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: lagas on January 30, 2009, 08:32:08 am
sword, machine head, metallica...
mh was good, after the first three songs the singer had to get a little bit of oxygen at the side of the stage because of the physical effort...

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Title: Re: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: Mr.Whippy on January 30, 2009, 04:49:47 pm
That's funny because if I would've gone, I probably would have said "It was AWESOME, nothing from St. Anger, nothing from Load, nothing from ReLoad...they basically (and awesomely) just played their [cough cough] '80s hits and awesomely ignored the shitty albums that they've put out within the last 10 years."

that's certainly what i'm hoping for this saturday - just scored myself some 6th row seat for the show in newark.  a metallica show in the heart of jersey - please pray for me.

for those who attended: who went on first, sword or machine head?  i definitely want to catch the sword, but could do without machine head (or are they good live?)


From my experience at the DC show, I suggest getting there early and seeing all 3 bands.  The Sword is first, and they are great with a real 70's Sabbath vibe.  Machine Head isn't my thing but they were really entertaining.  They really go over the top to get people involved, and their drummer is clearly from some superior alien race.  Plus, they did an awesome Maiden cover.  I won't spoil it and say which one.

It was my first time seeing Metallica, so I don't have anything to compare it to, but it was everything I could have hoped for.  Lots of the new album, which is great in my opinion, and then just classics otherwise, acting like the last decade never happened.

Best thing I overheard at the show from some guys behind me:  "Seriously dude, one of the best shows I've ever seen is Jimmy's Chicken Shack."
Title: Re: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: sweetcell on January 30, 2009, 05:08:13 pm
right-o then, we'll be seeing all three bands.  thanks for y'allz inputs.

last question, i promise: TM has a time of 7:00 - anyone remember if the show in DC started at the time (or whatever the printed time was)?  what were set times like - 7:00/8:00/9:00?
Title: Re: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: Mr.Whippy on January 31, 2009, 09:51:58 am
right-o then, we'll be seeing all three bands.  thanks for y'allz inputs.

last question, i promise: TM has a time of 7:00 - anyone remember if the show in DC started at the time (or whatever the printed time was)?  what were set times like - 7:00/8:00/9:00?

The DC show started on time at 7.  I got there about 7:10 and The Sword were already playing.  7, 8, 9 is probably pretty close for the set times, though Metallica might have come on closer to 9:15 if I remember correctly. 
Title: Re: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: sweetcell on February 04, 2009, 01:20:47 am
Hope the show is good and you have a ball. Report back, ya corn!

yup, yup, and you asked for it...

SHORT VERSION:

what little of the sword that i caught was really good.  i was unimpressed by machine head, except for the iron maiden cover the the following song.  metallica totally kicked ass.

LONG VERSION:

due to train delays and slow restaurant service, we got to the venue in time to catch the sword's last two songs.  they sounded good and i would have loved to hear more, but their set was really short - they were off the stage by 7:30.

machine head just wasn't my thing.  i need a more discernible melody, MH came at me like a wall of fuzz with an occasionally lead guitar going wingly-wangly @ 200 bpm.  their cover of "hallowed be thy name" was cool (melody!) as was the following song, but other than that i would have been happier skipping them.  the singer did have an impressive set of pipes, but his attempts at fostering crowd participation generally fell flat.

if the evening had ended at this point, i would have been incredibly disappointed.  luckily metallica came out and pulled off a 2+ hour set that can best be described as blistering (for some, literally - i could feel the heat from pyrotechnics from 50 feet back, i can only imagine what is was like for those in front).  from start to finish, they had me (and about 20,000 other folks in attendance) on their feet and pumping their fists.  i went in with huge expectations.  the band surpassed them.

the opening song, "that was just your life", was incredible - the laser show that went along with it was one of the best that i've ever seen.  they only brought them back for one other song, i would have loved
them to stay on for the entire show.  other highlights for me were "cyanide", "hit the lights", "blitzkrieg", "all nightmare long", "...and justice for all", "for whom the bell tolls"... oh, who am i kidding - there wasn't a bad moment in the set.  "one" has been over-played over the years, IMO, but their rendition on saturday was thoroughly enjoyable.  ok, fine, there is no saving "enter sandman" but i needed a bathroom break by then anyways so it fit in just fine :)

from a technical standpoint, this show was top-notch: sound was amazing, lights were incredible (did i mention the lasers?), no instrument/mic eff-ups, etc. 

further proof that this show kicked (metal up your) ass: the missus, who isn't a fan of metal by ANY stretch of the imagination, thoroughly enjoyed the show and told me to put them on our must-see list.  it was infectious.  i'm glad that i got a chance to catch them at one of their career peaks. 

THE CAMERA ODYSSEY: when i picked up my ticket at the will-call window, it read "no cameras allowed".  i shrugged this off, assuming they meant no video cameras or weren't going to be serious about it (i've been to many shows where "no cameras" wasn't enforced).  unfortunately, they were serious.  it was telling that the security dude told me "sorry sir, you'll have to take your camera back to your car" - this is jersey after all, everybody drives everywhere... except me, who took the train in.  so i told the missus to head on in to our seats (it was absolutely FREEZING outside), and that i'd join her in a minute.  i walked back out, hid the camera on my person - it was either that or hide it in a snow bank and hope to find it after the show - and tried my luck with another security attendant.  got through security that time, although i had to walk a little funny as i felt the camera slipping :)  the lack of camera flashes going off during the show was noticeable.  half way through metallica's set, security came over and busted me for taking pix.  i  was getting cocky, and given my seat location i probably should have been much more conservative.  but here's the cool part: instead of ejecting me, or confiscating my camera or my storage card... they took my batteries.  given how blatantly i had broken the rules i though it was nice of them to let me off like that.  could have been much worse for me.   here are the pix i managed to sneak (http://picasaweb.google.com/sweetcell/MetallicaNewarkJan09).

p.s. anyone want to trade livemetallica.com download codes?  i've got an extra for the 2/01 newark show, i'd be interested in trading for the 1/31 show or the DC show.  PM if you've got an extra.
Title: Re: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: Relaxer on February 04, 2009, 10:10:29 am
Goddamn that looks incredible. I don't know why I opted out of seeing them this time around.
Title: Re: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: lagas on February 04, 2009, 11:01:25 am
Hope the show is good and you have a ball. Report back, ya corn!

 the laser show that went along with it was one of the best that i've ever seen. 

true that

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Title: Re: Be Sure to Congratulate Metallica When They're in DC
Post by: chaz on February 04, 2009, 11:26:32 am
I just watched that Metallica doc on VH1 the other night, the one where they are in therapy and making the record with their therapist....hilarious.  What a bunch of bed-wetters.  They should rename themselves King Baby.

I'm sure the show was good though....saw them in 89 or so and it pretty much killed.