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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on February 20, 2009, 09:15:57 am
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So who's going to be there Friday night? Saturday night? I'll be there tonight!
We were bored, there was nothing going on.
Might as well stay at home and drink until we pass out again.
Then drink some more when the morning comes.
Memphis was sinking into the Mississippi.
We were doing our best just to ride it down.
Till the night G.G. Allin came to town.
"Honey, I dont believe this,"
the old man at Ferguson's Cafe kept saying to his wife.
As he read aloud The Memphis Star and their account of what went down that night
"It says He took a shit on the stage and started throwing it into the crowd.
But He was gone before the cops could come and shut him down."
Gone before the shit came down.
The Night G.G. Allin Came to Town.
The Night G.C. Allin Came to Town.
Antenna Club, Memphis, 1991.
Punk Rockers Paid $12.00 to be Shit On!
The Night G.G. Allin Came to Town
"It says He took the microphone and shoved it up his ass!"
The old man and his wife were aghast
The Night G.G. Allin Came to Town.
The Night G.G. Allin Came to Town.
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Me. Both nights!
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I saw a GG concert once and am glad I got to see it. If you're a fan of the absurd it was a hilarious experience.
He was icky though. A friend of mine got into a fist fight with him during the set. A total laugh riot.
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My college roommate in 1988-1989 used to pore through phone books to find the listed phone numbers of semi-obscure punk rock figures. He'd then call them, pretend he was a writer for a fanzine, and conduct a mock interview with them. I'd be laughing my ass off on the other side of the room. I'm not sure how my roommate always managed to keep a straight face.
One of the people I do remember him talking to was GG Allin. I wish I could remember the content of the conversation, but all I remember is my roommate mentioning a show that GG had done at the QE2 Club in Albany, NY and GG commenting that yes indeed, he did remember that show, and that he liked the club. I emailed my roommate, who seems to have a much better long term memory than me, to get some details.
Needless to say, neither of us had a girlfriend at the time.
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saturday. my liver couldn't take back-to-back nights of DBT.
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Drama at last night's show in Charleston...
I think Company I Keep was the second or third song Patterson sang. Toward the end of the song, he kinda stopped for a few seconds , guitar in hand (which I thought was just for dramatic pause or whatever) but then I could see his eyes kinda rolling back and then he just went down. He didn't fall forward or anything, just collapsed down to the floor. He didn't fall too hard, but it definately scared everybody for a few seconds. Damon immediately came out and Shonna went over to check on him. Everybody kept playing and Patterson just looked real confused for a few seconds and picked right back up with "Sometimes I DEFINATELY feel like SHIT!", kinda just strumming on his guitar sitting on the floor. I don't think he was drunk. He even said at the beginning of the show something like "Yall don't be mad if I just fall out up here. I've been sick for three weeks and haven't even been drinking because I've been so sick". Something like that. I felt soooo sorry for him. After he fell out, he was sitting in his chair and he kept apologizing and said "I'm gonna sit here and rest for awhile so I can give yall a kick ass encore. This is gonna be like a Dirt Underneath show for me" Cooley went up to him afterwards and probably asked if he needed to stop the show. Patterson just shook his head, smiled and said "No, I'm alright". He wasn't able to give us his encore, so Cooley rocked it out for us. He did sing several more songs sitting down and had a smile on his face for most of the show. It was definatley scary for a few minutes and I think it says a lot that he finished the show for us.
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i kind of wrote off "A Blessing and a Curse"... listened to it twice today, and while it's still not my favorite, i'm coming around on it
am i right in assuming that DBT no longer plays any cooley songs?
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Iknow y'all wanted to hear more of this story...
As for my conversation with GG Allin, I can recall quite a few scattered lines, from my initially yelling, "I love you GG!" to his picking up the phone and yelling back, "I love you, too, motherfucker". He had just played QE2 and talked on about how the local Albany band "The Neighborhoods" sucked and how he and his friends had stuck their hands up women's dresses at the club. At that time, he was also advertising imminent plans to commit suicide on stage somewhere in NYC ("No doubt in my mind, I'm gonna do it!"), adding that he would do it in central park if he couldn't get booked elsewhere. I also identified myself as his "number one fan" (not true, to this day I have yet to listen to any of his songs), to which he replied, "Huh? I have one?". All in all, he seemed like a down-to-earth guy, albeit mentally ill. The only other punk personage I spoke with was Dennis Danell of Social Distortion.
My college roommate in 1988-1989 used to pore through phone books to find the listed phone numbers of semi-obscure punk rock figures. He'd then call them, pretend he was a writer for a fanzine, and conduct a mock interview with them. I'd be laughing my ass off on the other side of the room. I'm not sure how my roommate always managed to keep a straight face.
One of the people I do remember him talking to was GG Allin. I wish I could remember the content of the conversation, but all I remember is my roommate mentioning a show that GG had done at the QE2 Club in Albany, NY and GG commenting that yes indeed, he did remember that show, and that he liked the club. I emailed my roommate, who seems to have a much better long term memory than me, to get some details.
Needless to say, neither of us had a girlfriend at the time.
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If by "Cooley", you mean "Isbell", then you would be correct.
I think popmatters hit the nail on the head with this one:
I mean, this was the dude who had written ?Outfit? and ?Danko/Manuel? and ?Goddamn Lonely Love? and ?Decoration Day? and ?The Day John Henry Died? and ?Easy on Yourself? and? Oh, yeah, right. He wrote ?Easy on Yourself.? The single worst song on any Drive-By Truckers record since about 2001, this inert arena rock boredom-fest was probably the biggest reason for the general disdain fans felt for A Blessing and a Curse, Isbell?s final album with the band. I guess, in retrospect, this was Isbell?s resignation? His signal to the band about the direction he was headed?away from those sirens, out of the ditch, and back into the middle of the road?
i kind of wrote off "A Blessing and a Curse"... listened to it twice today, and while it's still not my favorite, i'm coming around on it
am i right in assuming that DBT no longer plays any cooley songs?
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hah, please confiscate my laminated drive-by truckers fan club card
If by "Cooley", you mean "Isbell", then you would be correct.
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i love bloodkin, but have never listened to dbt before. going sat, and i hope i enjoi the band. i will give them a chance and stay the whole set. i can't wait to see all these large hairy guys that someone on here said mainly makes up their crowd. ;D
hey, what happened to julian? maybe his homeless neighbor got him?
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I planned to go tonight but am still recovering from my and Joe's long night in NYC last night. Tomorrow for me.
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hell no, Charlie ain't happy....~~~
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how the hell are they gonna have a DBT show without Patterson? at this point I wish I was going for the sheer curiosity...
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Drama at last night's show in Charleston...
I think Company I Keep was the second or third song Patterson sang. Toward the end of the song, he kinda stopped for a few seconds , guitar in hand (which I thought was just for dramatic pause or whatever) but then I could see his eyes kinda rolling back and then he just went down. He didn't fall forward or anything, just collapsed down to the floor. He didn't fall too hard, but it definately scared everybody for a few seconds. Damon immediately came out and Shonna went over to check on him. Everybody kept playing and Patterson just looked real confused for a few seconds and picked right back up with "Sometimes I DEFINATELY feel like SHIT!", kinda just strumming on his guitar sitting on the floor. I don't think he was drunk. He even said at the beginning of the show something like "Yall don't be mad if I just fall out up here. I've been sick for three weeks and haven't even been drinking because I've been so sick". Something like that. I felt soooo sorry for him. After he fell out, he was sitting in his chair and he kept apologizing and said "I'm gonna sit here and rest for awhile so I can give yall a kick ass encore. This is gonna be like a Dirt Underneath show for me" Cooley went up to him afterwards and probably asked if he needed to stop the show. Patterson just shook his head, smiled and said "No, I'm alright". He wasn't able to give us his encore, so Cooley rocked it out for us. He did sing several more songs sitting down and had a smile on his face for most of the show. It was definatley scary for a few minutes and I think it says a lot that he finished the show for us.
3 weeks. Is there a more serious health problem than they're letting on?
I sure hope not but that sounds odd to me.
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not sure if this "rumour" is true, but "sickness" was not the cause, and it looks like patterson may or may not show for either night. i even heard refunds might be given if people would like . . . but cannot say that is 100% true. i know nothing of this band, but i am excited already. ;D
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he is not at the show tonight sadly and it's my first DBT show...should be interesting though. bloodkin have been playing for an hour...
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he is not at the show tonight sadly and it's my first DBT show...should be interesting though. bloodkin have been playing for an hour...
how are the boys doing so far . . . and aren't you all hip and funk stylee posting at a show! ;)
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I quite like bloodkin but not a lot of people dancing. Man they played for a long time... I can't find Charlie...maybe he got his refund and then went home....
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This blows. Any info from this show regarding tomorrow's show is appreciated greatly. I hope he's there and in great health. I'd guess this would lead to quite a mixup of the typical DBT setlist as well.
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Much of the set was made up of requests. I ended up going with Joe after realizing that I'd be bored retarded by 9 if I didn't go.
It was also my first DBT show.
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yikes, was it worth it? i'll probably go get a refund tomorrow if patterson isn't going...
you guys really need to see them at full-strength, one of the best live bands around
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http://ninebullets.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=6230&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=160
"Cooley becomes the front man on the left side":
Daddy's Cup
3 Dimes Down
Panties in your purse
Women without Whiskey
I'm sorry Huston
Checkout time in Vegas
Gravity's Gone
Space City
Carl Perkins' Cadillac
Bob
Homefield Advantage
One of these days
Lisa's Birthday
Marry Me
Cottonseed
Purgatory Line
Ghost to Most
Life in the Factory (with guest)
encore
When the in hits the shell
Zip City
Shut up...
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I missed the website announcement so didn't learn of the situation until I got to the door. Since I had already invested time and money, I went in.
What a fucking trainwreck. I hated the opener, and left after 1 hour of DBT. The band really should have sent us back to Fredericksburg with our $25+.
Joe, couldn't find you. I was close to front, stage right. Sorry I didn't get to discuss Tom Petty with you, azag!
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Joe went around looking for you a couple times.
That opener played for way too fucking long!
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Jason Isbell mentioned that Patterson has pneumonia at his show tonight in Raleigh and dedicated Patterson's "Assassin" to him.
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They should just cancel tonight altogether rather than put themselves through that mess again.
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They should just cancel tonight altogether rather than put themselves through that mess again.
that is what i would think. why would a band want to represent themselves in this fashion to people who love them, and to people like myself who are seeing them for the first time to see if they are worthy of new love? feel bad for bloodkin. i'm sure they felt the staring wrath of dbt fans the entire set.
i guess i must say nevermind. just read another thread about the show from fans of dbt, and it was as if last night's show was the most epic awe inspiring performance they EVER put on EVER . . . as in "who needs patterson, they seem to be just fine without him." and "why wasn't i there? i missed the greatest thing EVER."
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Wow. I'm now regretting not going to the Towson show last month. I'm going tonight anyway. I have a feeling that I won't share the enthusiasm of the folks over at NineBullets, and it looks like Cooley did about the best damn job he could, but its going to lack the awesomeness of your typical DBT show if Patterson isn't back. I guess I can always get really, really drunk if things aren't up to par. And from what I'm hearing about Bloodkin, maybe I can show up late?
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From DBT's Facebook page.......
Patterson Hood is still ill with walking pneumonia and will not be able to perform again tonight. He?s getting lots of rest and eating chicken noodle soup and hopes to rejoin the rock show as soon as he?s feeling up to it. The show will go on, as it did last night. Cooley and the band rocked it last night and will do the same tonight. Patterson loves DC and hopes to make it up to everyone soon.
See Fan Update for refund details.
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not sure if they really pulled their shit together for the second show, but i thoroughly enjoyed it tonight...
john neff did his best understated dad-rock take all night... spooner oldham ripped it up in the middle of the stage, had some really fun solos and some great bottleneck guitar work towards the end
shonna's vocals needed to be turned up higher, kind of ruined "i'm sorry huston".. "purgatory line" was really great though
best part of the night was "rockin in the free world"... "space city" a close second
definitely not a normal DBT show, but i had a lot of fun
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Are you sure Spooner was there? Wasn't there Friday night.
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I was disappointed to realize that this thread wasn't actually about GG Allin... last night Ginger of the Hall Monitors closed their set with a GG Allin song, up at Chick Hall's, and it sounds like I picked the better show to go to.
I saw DBT last time they came through. Two observations: 1) they put on a great show and 2) a hella lotta fratboy types are into them.
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Are you sure Spooner was there? Wasn't there Friday night.
99% sure it was him on guitar in patterson's spot in the middle ... kind of funny to watch him play, he could really tear into a song but had none of the rock star moves, just leaned back and shredded
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Um, I'm going to go with your 1%. On Friday, the older balding guy who was in Patterson's spot who was tearing it up on guitar was the guitarist from the opening band Bloodkin.
Spooner Oldham is a keyboardist, and he's not balding.
The Bloodkin guy is the guy on the left.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3003/3299788892_7e4d639451.jpg)
This is Spooner
(http://www.claycoleshow.com/oldman.jpg)
Are you sure Spooner was there? Wasn't there Friday night.
99% sure it was him on guitar in patterson's spot in the middle ... kind of funny to watch him play, he could really tear into a song but had none of the rock star moves, just leaned back and shredded
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yeah, looks like you're right... i saw an old dude with grey hair and goatee and ran with it ;D
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that's ok. a certain other boardie who was at DBT (first time seeing them) friday and M. Ward saturday thought that patterson sings all the truckers songs on record, and that cooley was stepping to the plate as a pinch hitter. ;D
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Glad I passed on this weekends festivities. I know someone who lives in Charleston and had ticks to the show. I'll have to get a report this coming week. Hope Paterson takes care......out....
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last night was a great show. even if i never heard of or never heard the band i am about to see, i thoroughly enjoi going the 930 club. the sound is indeed bombastic, the scene is indeed a intriguing mix of youth and the elder set alike. people who only drink vodka and cranberry, and others who only chug budweiser bottle. the staff is kind (some you can tell do have problems catering to large groups of "partying people"), and professional. each bar, a different take on how people act while waiting for alcohol. never could understand why people don't flock to the basement bar during the show (four people waiting vs. ten thousand upstairs trying to cram closer to the taps. i like abitha now. 930 pale ale is not bad either. introduced myself to thatguy, and thanked him personally for "making me a nicer person here on the forum, and that i'm trying to be a better poster."
bloodkin ripped. hands down. bought a shirt. felt happy. really enjoied dbt, especially coole's middle finger salute to patterson with a "where's the video at . . . fuck you asshole, get better soon." then it happened. they did this song toward the end of the night, with a talk up of it before playing. did not know this about them, but should have expected it coming from the fact they are a "country based" act from the south. the song is "bob". i was sort of shocked by the lyrics . . . and lost the respect for them that was building up nicely until that moment. now i know i don't need to listen to them anymore. don't get me wrong, they played kick ass music that at most times rocked, and at others times entranced, mainly leaving me smiling at their obvious strength of talent. and yes, the neil young cover was classic, especially when the frat boy up front got thrown out for acting like a moshing idiot. ;D
loved this write up i just read about the song. -- The worst offender (on the album), though, is Cooley's "Bob," a character sketch that has drawn some criticism for its possible homophobia (Cooley assures that Bob "ain't light in the loafers/He might kneel/But he never bends over") and is without question the flat-out dumbest song the band has ever committed to record.
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Those lyrics definitely made me do a double-take upon hearing them, too.
And yes, 930 staff = best ever.
I also love the emptiness of the backbar before/during shows. From my experiences, the masses don't make it down until after shows are over and I hope it stays that way.
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I was disappointed to realize that this thread wasn't actually about GG Allin...
Me too. I tried to steer it that way and was successful for a bit......
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What is it about those lyrics that are so homophobic?
Bob
Bob goes to church every Sunday
every Sunday that the fish ain't bitin'
Bob never have to have dinner with the Preacher
cos' Bob never bothered gettin' married
He likes to drink a beer or two every now and again
He always had more dogs thn he ever had friends
Bob ain't light in the loafers
He might kneel but he never bends over
Bob takes care of his Momma
She's the only one he lets call him Robert
She don't drive anymore so he takes her to the store
and keeps her yard lookin' just like she wants it
Every week at the beauty shop Bob's Momma hears
that another woman's paid 'nother man disappears
Robert ain't exactly scared o' women
He's just got his own way o' livin'
Bob's still gotta antenna on a pole
2 channels come in 2 more comin' through
He used to watch the news but he don't anymore
Ain't none of it new it's the same as before
He figures all any of it's any good for's
keepin' averybody bored till there ain't nobody
like Bob anymore
Bob takes care of his Momma
She's a mess but he feels like he oughtta
a big a mess today as bob will say
"she's a big un and she's gonna be a lotta"
He likes to drink a beer or two every now and again
He always had more dogs than he ever had friends
Bob ain't light in the loafers
He might kneel but he never bends over
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i know people hate hearing about the gay issues in life, and on here. and unless you are gay, i can understand why you would not care or even think this is a fuss of a matter even making a print over. i feel, and believe me i know how to know that i could be wrong, that this is an observation about a gay man . . . from a straight man feeling sorry for him . . . for being gay. the stereotypes and sly references are there: never being able to get married, taking care of the mother, beauty shops, rumours from women, "hoping there aren't people like bob anymore". it is about a man who wrote a song who thinks that gay people hate being gay people. that their life is somehow useless as someone with only two channels. i'm still trying to understand the "he might kneel, but won't bend over" line. i guess that is a crack at some of these "straight guys" who will let a guy suck their dick, but there ain't no way they're a fag. oh yeah, and bob doesn't have any friends. clearly the writer of this feels sorry for gay people, and why would they want to be gay at all if this is "their life." the end.
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As someone who grew up somewhat sexually confused in small town, red state America, I can totally relate to the climate and environment that Bob lives in.
However, how is feeling sad for Bob homophobia? My take is that Cooley is simply painting a picture of the life of a closeted gay man in small town America. Is Cooley the one wishing for no more Bob's? The lyrics below are hard for me to decipher, but maybe it's Bob feeling sorry for himself? Maybe he (the narrator, who is not necessarily Cooley) is wishing for a day when a gay country Southern man doesn't feel the need to be in the closet?
Ain't none of it new it's the same as before
He figures all any of it's any good for's
keepin' averybody bored till there ain't nobody
like Bob anymore
This isn't the only song that Cooley's written that has a closeted character. Zip City has one too. And though Cooley wrote it where the narrator is the lead character, it's pretty clear that 30-something Cooley is not the narrator himself (or if he is, it's a tale told from when he was a teenager 20 years prior), but only playing the role of the narrator.
Your Daddy was mad as hell
He was mad at me and you
As he tied that chain to the front of my car and pulled me out of that ditch that we slid into
Don't know what his problem is
Why he keeps dragging you away
Don't know why I put up with this shit
When you don't put out and Zip City's so far away
Your Daddy is a deacon down at the Salem Church of Christ
And He makes good money as long as Reynolds Wrap keeps everything wrapped up tight
Your Mama's as good a wife and Mama as she can be
And your Sister's puttin' that sweet stuff on everybody in town but me
Your Brother was the first-born, got ten fingers and ten toes
And it's a damn good thing cause He needs all twenty to keep the closet door closed
Maybe it's the twenty-six mile drive from Zip City to Colbert Heights
Keeps my mind clean
Gets me through the night
Maybe you're just a destination, a place for me to go
A way to keep from having to deal with my seventeen-year-old mind all alone
Keep your drawers on, girl, it ain't worth the fight
By the time you drop them I'll be gone
And you'll be right where they fall the rest of your life
You say you're tired of me taking you for granted
Waiting' up till the last minute to call you up and see what you want to do
Well you're only fifteen, girl, you ain't got no secretary
And "for granted" is a mighty big word for a country girl like you
You know it's just your Daddy talking
Cause He knows that blood red carpet at the Salem Church of Christ
Ain't gonna ever see no wedding between me and you
Zip City it's a good thing that they built a wall around you
Zip up to Tennessee then zip back down to Alabama
I got 350 heads on a 305 engine
I get ten miles to the gallon
I ain't got no good intentions
i know people hate hearing about the gay issues in life, and on here. and unless you are gay, i can understand why you would not care or even think this is a fuss of a matter even making a print over. i feel, and believe me i know how to know that i could be wrong, that this is an observation about a gay man . . . from a straight man feeling sorry for him . . . for being gay. the stereotypes and sly references are there: never being able to get married, taking care of the mother, beauty shops, rumours from women, "hoping there aren't people like bob anymore". it is about a man who wrote a song who thinks that gay people hate being gay people. that their life is somehow useless as someone with only two channels. i'm still trying to understand the "he might kneel, but won't bend over" line. i guess that is a crack at some of these "straight guys" who will let a guy suck their dick, but there ain't no way they're a fag. oh yeah, and bob doesn't have any friends. clearly the writer of this feels sorry for gay people, and why would they want to be gay at all if this is "their life." the end.
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dear charlie, mister japanese golfer,
your arguements are indeed valued, valid, and yes . . . thought provoking. i like your interpretations of supposed lyrical meanings, and yes--me not knowing anything about coole or the band, besides the fact they rocked the house on saturday--what you said could indeed be true. thanks! ;)
"sexually confused in a red state small town" that sounds like a great title for a john cougar mellencamp song.
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;D I did enjoy 5 songs or so, esp. Carl Perkins' Cadillac. Shona should never be allowed to sing, though!!! She is HORRIBLE!
that's ok. a certain other boardie who was at DBT (first time seeing them) friday and M. Ward saturday thought that patterson sings all the truckers songs on record, and that cooley was stepping to the plate as a pinch hitter. ;D
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Apparently we're the only ones "lucky" enough to get the Cooley "solo" show...
DRIVE-BY TRUCKERS RESCHEDULE REMAINING TOUR DATES THIS WEEK
The Drive-By Truckers will be rescheduling their remaining tour dates this week. Patterson Hood was forced to sit out of this past weekend's shows due to walking pneumonia and needs some more time to recuperate. The band sends their sincere apologizes. Your original ticket will be valid for the rescheduled shows. Anyone that is unable to make the new date may obtain a refund at the point of purchase.
The following dates are postponed:
Tue Feb 24 Lexington KY THE DAME
Wed Feb 25 Milwaukee WI TURNER HALL
Thu Feb 26 St. Louis MO PAGEANT
Fri Feb 27 Memphis TN NEW DAISY
Sat Feb 28 Tuscaloosa, AL JUPITER BAR & GRILL
Rescheduled dates:
Thu March 26 Lexington KY THE DAME
Fri March 27 Memphis TN NEW DAISY
SAT March 28 St. Louis MO PAGEANT
We're working on rescheduling Milwaukee and Tuscaloosa and hope to have news on those shows soon.
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conspiracy song theories aside . . . it was a hell of a show, and i'm glad i was there. i was almost certain i saw azag out front during the bloodkin/dbt break talking to a tall black guy with a scarf. he was wearing a "contruction company" t shirt i think, with a beard and i think a hat. i wanted to say hi, but wasn't sure if was him or not. i felt bad enough staring at the guy for as long as i did.