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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: HoyaSaxa03 on March 17, 2009, 08:43:23 pm

Title: Hey Seth!
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on March 17, 2009, 08:43:23 pm
$9 guinness?! :o
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: wml7 on March 17, 2009, 09:22:25 pm
god damn
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: sweetcell on March 17, 2009, 09:30:07 pm
i was going to get all up in arms about someone starting another "hey seth" thread... but $9 guinness is reason enough for such a breach of protocol.

$9?!?!?  seriously?!?!?

someone please confirm before i start ranting. i'm not saying any day is a good one for this kinda news, but march 17th is probably the worse one of all.
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: walkonby on March 18, 2009, 09:20:03 am
go for the music . . . or drink something else besides that shite.
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on March 18, 2009, 01:47:21 pm
Last time I was there I paid $16 for a double Stoli and Cranberry. When did Stoli become Jean Marc XO? I'm just going to DC9 or Duffy's and drinking before I go to any show at 9:30 because the prices having gotten ridiculous and completely incommensurate with any other place I go to see a show. You're a music venue, not Russia House.
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: Sage 703 on March 18, 2009, 02:10:41 pm
At least a Miller Lite costs $6.

Oh...wait... :-\
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: wml7 on March 18, 2009, 02:19:53 pm
yeah PBR 6 bucks, can't beat that.
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: redsock on March 18, 2009, 02:28:32 pm
The 3.50 draft PBR or the 4.00 Red Room Ale both at the black cat continue to be the best deals around IMHO.
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: Vas Deferens on March 18, 2009, 02:33:49 pm
they were handing out beer at comet ping pong last Friday night at the Homosexuals show...

too bad someone here was too much of a chicken to try it...
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on March 18, 2009, 04:14:40 pm
The 3.50 draft PBR or the 4.00 Red Room Ale both at the black cat continue to be the best deals around IMHO.

or the $2 PBR at solly's and a million other places  ::)
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: redsock on March 18, 2009, 04:20:19 pm
Those are cans though right?

The 3.50 draft PBR or the 4.00 Red Room Ale both at the black cat continue to be the best deals around IMHO.

or the $2 PBR at solly's and a million other places  ::)
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: Got Haggis? on March 18, 2009, 04:40:00 pm
makes me glad I live in Baltimore....$1.50 PBRs and $1 - $1.50 Bohs
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on March 18, 2009, 05:12:24 pm
Those are cans though right?

yeah, fair enough
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: Seth Hurwitz on March 19, 2009, 07:46:17 am
$9 guinness?! :o

what was it?
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: Shadrach on March 19, 2009, 11:10:57 am
$9 guinness?! :o

Just to clarify, a Guinness draft is $7.00. However the Pub Can, which is 14.9 oz. as compared to our 12 oz. tap draft does run $9.00. We have Guinness on tap at the Backbar and VIP bar, but not on the main floor. If you want a Guinness from either of the main floor bars you'll have to get it in the Pub Can.
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: Shadrach on March 19, 2009, 11:13:34 am
Last time I was there I paid $16 for a double Stoli and Cranberry. When did Stoli become Jean Marc XO? I'm just going to DC9 or Duffy's and drinking before I go to any show at 9:30 because the prices having gotten ridiculous and completely incommensurate with any other place I go to see a show. You're a music venue, not Russia House.

Stoli is $8.00 and if you order a double you get a true double and therefor pay for two shots.
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: bellenseb on March 19, 2009, 11:19:48 am
More of a general question...is a price list available anywhere? Is it just a policy of bars and clubs in general to try to keep prices of alcohol on a need-to-know basis? Just curious.

I don't really drink at shows and therefore it's not much of an issue for me, but it just seems like a funny quirk of the club/bar/restaurant business - you often see posted prices for food but not drinks...for example take the 930 menu (http://www.930.com/menu/) - why not post prices for beer?
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: sweetcell on March 19, 2009, 11:21:16 am
$9 guinness?! :o

Just to clarify, a Guinness draft is $7.00. However the Pub Can, which is 14.9 oz. as compared to our 12 oz. tap draft does run $9.00.

ah, thanks for confirming that.  although slightly above average, those prices aren't horrible.  i was afraid that pints were $9.... a tempest in a solo cup.
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on March 19, 2009, 11:23:15 am
I've always wondered the same thing.

My general thought was that people would buy less or choose something less expensive if they knew the price in advance. If they don't, their more likely to just choose what they want, then potentially suffer the consequences.

That's just the opinion of Mr. Thrifty here.

More of a general question...is a price list available anywhere? Is it just a policy of bars and clubs in general to try to keep prices of alcohol on a need-to-know basis? Just curious.

I don't really drink at shows and therefore it's not much of an issue for me, but it just seems like a funny quirk of the club/bar/restaurant business - you often see posted prices for food but not drinks...for example take the 930 menu (http://www.930.com/menu/) - why not post prices for beer?
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on March 19, 2009, 11:25:11 am
Pints probably are around $9, since a 12 oz cup is only 75% of a pint.


$9 guinness?! :o

Just to clarify, a Guinness draft is $7.00. However the Pub Can, which is 14.9 oz. as compared to our 12 oz. tap draft does run $9.00.

ah, thanks for confirming that.  although slightly above average, those prices aren't horrible.  i was afraid that pints were $9.... a tempest in a solo cup.
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: bellenseb on March 19, 2009, 11:28:23 am
Now that I think about it, the Black Cat does post prices for bottles/draft/straightforward rail drinks on a board behind the bar (but not on their web site). Does the 930 do this? I can't remember.
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on March 19, 2009, 11:41:01 am
If you're comparing the two, it's also noteworthy that Black Cat publishes ticket prices in their print ads, and 9:30 Club does not.

Now that I think about it, the Black Cat does post prices for bottles/draft/straightforward rail drinks on a board behind the bar (but not on their web site). Does the 930 do this? I can't remember.
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: sweetcell on March 19, 2009, 11:42:50 am
Pints probably are around $9, since a 12 oz cup is only 75% of a pint.

d'oh.  imperial measurement system comprehension fail.
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on March 19, 2009, 11:53:36 am
Pints probably are around $9, since a 12 oz cup is only 75% of a pint.

d'oh.  imperial measurement system comprehension fail.

and an imperial pint (20 oz.) would be $11.67

Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: sweetcell on March 19, 2009, 01:24:22 pm
now that's just pedantic.

The United States Customary System for units of measurement, also known in the United States as English, Imperial or standard units, is the primary and most commonly-used system of units of measurement in the United States (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_customary_units)
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: Seth Hurwitz on March 19, 2009, 01:25:47 pm
last time we raised prices was maybe 3 yrs ago

rather than raise them .50 more often, we wait until it's time to raise them $1.00

obviously the wholesale costs go up more frequently than we raise prices...when it gets to the point where my bar manager says "ummm, we're getting whacked here", then we raise them and don't raise them again til that point

hey listen, you know, if it were up to me I'd give away free drinks all night, but the kids want silly things like clothes to wear to school
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: vansmack on March 19, 2009, 02:06:29 pm
hey listen, you know, if it were up to me I'd give away free drinks all night, but the kids want silly things like clothes to wear to school

Why don't they just gamble with you on stuff like that?  They're sure to win...
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on March 19, 2009, 02:20:31 pm
What are you outfitting them in, Louis Vuitton?
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: distance on March 19, 2009, 02:45:30 pm
what happened to the old 'hey seth' thread?

is it too early to put in a request for aphex twin again?
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: Shadrach on March 19, 2009, 03:14:37 pm
What are you outfitting them in, Louis Vuitton?

Nope, heat to toe 9:30 merch.
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on March 19, 2009, 03:29:52 pm
What are you outfitting them in, Louis Vuitton?
I commented in a past Julian's America about how he and his kid was dressed. I was shocked -- shocked! -- I didn't get banned.
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on March 19, 2009, 03:33:12 pm
Last time I was there I paid $16 for a double Stoli and Cranberry. When did Stoli become Jean Marc XO? I'm just going to DC9 or Duffy's and drinking before I go to any show at 9:30 because the prices having gotten ridiculous and completely incommensurate with any other place I go to see a show. You're a music venue, not Russia House.

Stoli is $8.00 and if you order a double you get a true double and therefor pay for two shots.
I cannot knock that it's a legitimate double. I've never had any issue whatsoever with 930's drinks being "watered down" or anything like that. I think my bigger issue is that $8 for Stoli is ridiculous. I'm a vodka guy, and I can say with some certainty that at other venues, I can get Grey Goose for around $6, and I can say with some confidence I have never paid $8 for Grey Goose at any other club. And a liter bottle of Grey Goose costs close to double a liter bottle of Stoli. It's an asinine price.
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: vansmack on March 19, 2009, 03:52:09 pm
You know you have the final say right?

If it's too expensive, don't buy it.
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: nkotb on March 19, 2009, 03:53:52 pm
But then I get the shakes...

You know you have the final say right?

If it's too expensive, don't buy it.
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: sweetcell on March 19, 2009, 03:54:37 pm
hey listen, you know, if it were up to me I'd give away free drinks all night, but the kids want silly things like clothes to wear to school

oh my - i had no idea that i my drinking was keeping your kids safe from hypothermia.  i shall resolve to spend more on alcohol, less the innocent youngins go without! </sarcasm>

seth, i respect your right to be rewarded for your business ventures, and if i disagree with your pricing i'll take my dollars elsewhere - but putting forward your kids as justification for above-average pricing is weak. 
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on March 19, 2009, 04:00:17 pm
You know you have the final say right?

If it's too expensive, don't buy it.
I said in my original post that I no longer do.
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: Vas Deferens on March 19, 2009, 04:01:46 pm
or buy beer at the store, park your car and drink, then go to the show ;)

You know you have the final say right?

If it's too expensive, don't buy it.
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: Rknrldr on March 19, 2009, 04:59:31 pm
I was paying $7 for Guinness @ Kegs&Eggs and I thought it was a treat..as far as parking and drinking in the lot, don't do it..they'll bust ya and take you to the station but at least they'll have you back in time for the show..
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: vansmack on March 19, 2009, 05:20:01 pm
or buy beer at the store, park your car and drink, then go to the show ;)


That was cool when I was 18...
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: vansmack on March 19, 2009, 05:21:22 pm
I said in my original post that I no longer do.

I purposely didn't quote your post.  It was just a general statement to the masses.
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: vansmack on March 19, 2009, 05:23:54 pm
But then I get the shakes...

You take drugs, Danny?
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: nkotb on March 19, 2009, 05:24:42 pm
Every day.

But then I get the shakes...

You take drugs, Danny?
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: vansmack on March 19, 2009, 05:27:12 pm
Every day.

Good. Then what's your problem?
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on March 19, 2009, 05:33:39 pm
I purposely didn't quote your post.  It was just a general statement to the masses.
I assume everyone is talking to me, all the time.
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: walkonby on March 27, 2009, 12:49:51 pm
i was going to put this in the real hey seth thread, but i like this one better.

merriweather phish show sells out on ticketmaster in one minute!  i was trying for one, was in and got the no tickets available page before the clock hit 1001.  wow.  i know you have nothing to do with this, but damn . . . will the ticket industry of greed and scalper with their programs ever stop?  lucky for some us that there are bands like phish who have lotteries where fans can request tickets directly from them.  i scored two phish shows, including a merriweather lawn through the lottery.  would love to see all bands only do this for each venue and make it a two ticket limit per person with names of buyers printed on them.   
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: wml7 on March 27, 2009, 01:05:01 pm
i was going to put this in the real hey seth thread, but i like this one better.

merriweather phish show sells out on ticketmaster in one minute!  i was trying for one, was in and got the no tickets available page before the clock hit 1001.  wow.  i know you have nothing to do with this, but damn . . . will the ticket industry of greed and scalper with their programs ever stop?  lucky for some us that there are bands like phish who have lotteries where fans can request tickets directly from them.  i scored two phish shows, including a merriweather lawn through the lottery.  would love to see all bands only do this for each venue and make it a two ticket limit per person with names of buyers printed on them.   

oh crap I completely forgot about this sale today.  I wonder if peope who were at work and had faster internet had better luck with getting tickets.
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: MonkeyPants on March 27, 2009, 01:07:01 pm
$9 guinness?! :o

Just to clarify, a Guinness draft is $7.00. However the Pub Can, which is 14.9 oz. as compared to our 12 oz. tap draft does run $9.00. We have Guinness on tap at the Backbar and VIP bar, but not on the main floor. If you want a Guinness from either of the main floor bars you'll have to get it in the Pub Can.

I think the new prices are absurd.  $8 for the can was absurd, but $9 is just ridiculous, especially since I can buy a four pack of the cans retail for less than $8, and I'm sure you guys pay less than that.  And then there's the $4 for a bottle of water that was already an absurd $3 and that probably costs the club all of 25-50 per bottle at most.  So from now on it will be tap water, or drinking @ Duffy's.  And the ticket prices this year have been wacky, too ($25 for TVOTR good.  $35 for Estelle?  yeah right).  
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on March 27, 2009, 01:13:28 pm
They have to make their money somewhere, why not make it on people desperate to drink?

They're probably not making much money on ticket sales, that money's probably going to the bands, as it's the only way band can make money these days since we're all stealing their music.
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$9 guinness?! :o

Just to clarify, a Guinness draft is $7.00. However the Pub Can, which is 14.9 oz. as compared to our 12 oz. tap draft does run $9.00. We have Guinness on tap at the Backbar and VIP bar, but not on the main floor. If you want a Guinness from either of the main floor bars you'll have to get it in the Pub Can.

I think the new prices are absurd.  $8 for the can was absurd, but $9 is just ridiculous, especially since I can buy a four pack of the cans retail for less than $8, and I'm sure you guys pay less than that.  And then there's the $4 for a bottle of water that was already an absurd $3 and that probably costs the club all of 25-50 per bottle at most.  So from now on it will be tap water, or drinking @ Duffy's.  And the ticket prices this year have been wacky, too ($25 for TVOTR good.  $35 for Estelle?  yeah right).  
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: walkonby on March 27, 2009, 02:08:42 pm
i was going to put this in the real hey seth thread, but i like this one better.

merriweather phish show sells out on ticketmaster in one minute!  i was trying for one, was in and got the no tickets available page before the clock hit 1001.  wow.  i know you have nothing to do with this, but damn . . . will the ticket industry of greed and scalper with their programs ever stop?  lucky for some us that there are bands like phish who have lotteries where fans can request tickets directly from them.  i scored two phish shows, including a merriweather lawn through the lottery.  would love to see all bands only do this for each venue and make it a two ticket limit per person with names of buyers printed on them.   

oh crap I completely forgot about this sale today.  I wonder if peope who were at work and had faster internet had better luck with getting tickets.

faster than one minute?  somehow i doubt it.  and seeing how there are already over three hundred seperate listings for tickets to the merriweather show on ebay alone (with some even saying they have the tickets in hand, and not the ticketfaster printout ones . . . one even has a picture of the tickets) i can only hope the band attempts to step in and cancel every one of those orders.  yeah, as i slap myself in the head, right . . . sure they will.

just checked stubhub . . . . there are about 400 lawn tickets for sale at that site.  that's one site.  that pretty much means almost every lawn tickets went to a scalper.  hey seth, perhaps it is time you do step in and attempt something.  not sure what you could do though, but the effort would shine an even bigger sparkle in my eye toward you  ;)
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: sweetcell on March 27, 2009, 02:35:55 pm
just checked stubhub . . . . there are about 400 lawn tickets for sale at that site.  that's one site.  that pretty much means almost every lawn tickets went to a scalper. 

i take it that you haven't ever been to merriweather, otherwise you'd know how silly "400 = almost every lawn ticket" is...  lawn holds something like 10,000 (total venue capacity: 19,316 according to da wiki).
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: walkonby on March 27, 2009, 02:52:38 pm
just checked stubhub . . . . there are about 400 lawn tickets for sale at that site.  that's one site.  that pretty much means almost every lawn tickets went to a scalper. 

i take it that you haven't ever been to merriweather, otherwise you'd know how silly "400 = almost every lawn ticket" is...  lawn holds something like 10,000 (total venue capacity: 19,316 according to da wiki).

that is why i said "one site."  +ebay +amazon +every scalper site +ticketmaster auction +etc........  and sorry, i went back to stubhub.  there are 1000 lawn seats available.

and if merriweather lawn can hold 10000+, how does ticketmaster process that many orders in one minute?
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: sweetcell on March 28, 2009, 01:53:50 pm
that is why i said "one site."  +ebay +amazon +every scalper site +ticketmaster auction +etc........ 

chances are scalpers list tickets on more than one site, thus you can't do a simple addition of all the sites... you'd be double-counting.

and sorry, i went back to stubhub.  there are 1000 lawn seats available.

this news should make you happy: i'm not convinced scalpers will be able to sell that many tickets at those high prices.  i wouldn't be surprised if you saw a bunch of cheap tickets appear in the week before the show.

and if merriweather lawn can hold 10000+, how does ticketmaster process that many orders in one minute?

distributed computing, server farms with hundreds machines, high-speed networking... it can be done.  also, the entire order doesn't have to be processed before the show is shown as "sold out", the tickets only have to be reserved - that's the first screen after the captcha, where you're shown what seats the system is offering you.  that's a simple database hit, not very computer-intensive.  pulling up your account/entering your billing info and the credit card processing, that takes time - but the show can be sold out before then, since the tickets are taken out of the available inventory pool.
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: walkonby on March 28, 2009, 02:53:26 pm
damn . . . you're good.  ;)
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: azaghal1981 on March 28, 2009, 04:58:37 pm
It just goes to show you that thinking things through rationally always trumps gut-based reactionary posts. Don't get me wrong; I've been guilty of it, too.
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: sonickteam2 on March 30, 2009, 10:24:57 am
but arent the gut-based reactionary posts the ones that make this board worth reading?
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: azaghal1981 on March 30, 2009, 03:04:22 pm
Completely.
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: walkonby on March 30, 2009, 03:22:52 pm
but arent the gut-based reactionary posts the ones that make this board worth reading?

and here i thought your posts were the ones that made this place interesting.  :D
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: sonickteam2 on March 31, 2009, 01:28:32 pm
but arent the gut-based reactionary posts the ones that make this board worth reading?

and here i thought your posts were the ones that made this place interesting.  :D

this place isnt that interesting, actually.
Title: Re: Hey Seth!
Post by: walkonby on March 31, 2009, 01:59:01 pm
but arent the gut-based reactionary posts the ones that make this board worth reading?

and here i thought your posts were the ones that made this place interesting.  :D

this place isnt that interesting, actually.

most of the time, you are right.  but there are sometimes some people who do make it a nice break from work to glance over and have a smirk (in a good way).  you, whether you know it or not, are one of those people who please.