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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: mdh9857 on May 08, 2009, 11:11:34 am
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I know on Just Announced people were mentioning shows that were very sparsly attended (i.e. the mentioned Ben Folds at MPP). I was just curious as to what the attendance was, and what shows have board members been to that had really low attendance whether it be MPP/ 9:30 etc...
Just out of curiosity.
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High Strung at Black Cat backstage - about 10 people?
Juan MacClean at Black Cat mainstage - about 60?
Soulwax at 930 - less than 80 people
Castanets at Red and Black - 5 people
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Primal Scream at 9:30 was just about empty. That was one of the more sparsely attended 9:30 shows I've been do, along with Charlatans UK a couple of years back.
Past shows...
V Fest last year seemed pretty empty to me. Maybe that was just perception - but I could walk up to the first few rows for every set.
One of the best I've ever seen was Azure Ray/Crooked Fingers at the Black Cat. There were probably about 50 people upstairs for the mainstage show, maybe 100 tops. Amazing set.
Now Its Overhead at IOTA was very empty.
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Stellastarr*/The Killers/Ambulance Ltd @ Alley Katz - <25 people
Manchester Orchestra @ Relative Theory Records - <10 people
Sparklehorse (circa It's A Wonderful Life) @ Plan 9 Records - <50 people
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Do in-stores count?
Alejandro Escovedo: Me, a friend, and the apologetic employees at DCCD.
Feist: Maybe 10-15 people at Tower Records in Foggy Bottom.
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I remember seeing the Datsuns at 9:30 5-6 years ago and I'd estimate there were between 100-200 people there max. They still played like it was a sold-out Giants Stadium though, so bless'em for that.
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Last night at 930 was really empty. A place like that just isn't the right location for a dj showcase for an under-the-radar hip-hop label.
Peter Brotzmann may have drawn more people to Velvet (that was a surprising, awesome turnout)
APTBS last year was sparse as well.
As was The Notwist.
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Stellastarr*/The Killers/Ambulance Ltd @ Alley Katz - <25 people
Hmmm...I was at this show with two other people, and I don't remember it being that sparsely attended. Funny that we made up that much of the crowd, in that case.
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High Strung at Black Cat backstage - about 10 people?
I was one of those 10 people.
Last night's Dears show at black cat was pretty sparse. I'm bad with estimating crowds though...
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Stellastarr*/The Killers/Ambulance Ltd @ Alley Katz - <25 people
i saw this same show in San Diego, the night before Coachella and it was sold out, hardcore....probably just because of Coachella though.
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There were maybe 40 people at this 930 club show:
Hope of the States / Inouk 10/8/04 (coming soon)
Looks like it was me, a few friends, and kosmo (http://www.hi-fipop.com/p16.html) ;D
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Low, the last time they did 930 a couple of years ago. Seemed to be mayne 100 people total in the building that night. Great show though, getting to be directly in front of the stage with plenty of room and great music.
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I know on Just Announced people were mentioning shows that were very sparsly attended (i.e. the mentioned Ben Folds at MPP). I was just curious as to what the attendance was, and what shows have board members been to that had really low attendance whether it be MPP/ 9:30 etc...
Just out of curiosity.
the Ben Folds w/ BSO show was low, for MPP standards, maybe 3000 people. but half were on the lawn that holds 10,000 and the other half in the pavilion which holds 7000. made it look empty!
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Primal Scream at 9:30 was just about empty.
It wasn't as well-attended as the last one, but "just about empty"?? I'd describe the attendance as "respectable."
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I remember when QOTSA opened for VAST a few years back at the 930 Club (2000 I think?) and there was maybe 150-200 tops at that show. They came back around about 6 months later when "Songs for the Deaf" was released and Grohl was drumming (Amazing what that can do for attendence) and the show was beyond sold out!
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Primal Scream at 9:30 was just about empty.
It wasn't as well-attended as the last one, but "just about empty"?? I'd describe the attendance as "respectable."
Respectable would be an overstatement, I think. I'd ballpark attendance between 300-500, just as a guess. Just about empty might have been an exaggeration, but it certainly wasn't full. The stage was all the way forward and there was still plenty of room on the floor.
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the Ben Folds w/ BSO show was low, for MPP standards, maybe 3000 people. but half were on the lawn that holds 10,000 and the other half in the pavilion which holds 7000. made it look empty!
Sounds similar to when I saw The Kinks at MPP in 93, although I'd guess even fewer people. We sat about 10 rows behind the pit and we pretty much had the row to ourselves. We could have easily moved up to the first few rows, but there was really no point. Maybe 1K people on the lawn.
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A few I remember...
Vic Chesnutt, Black Cat Mainstage, 2003? Around 50 people in a little circle around the stage. Good show, he played "Isadora Duncan" on request.
Lots of sparsely attended Iota shows I can remember over the years, as in around 20-30 people. David Dondero, Lisa Germano, Micah P. Hinson, even Bill Callahan a few years back probably wasn't much more than that.
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I remember seeing the Datsuns at 9:30 5-6 years ago and I'd estimate there were between 100-200 people there max. They still played like it was a sold-out Giants Stadium though, so bless'em for that.
I was at that show. Though I think that was the 2nd time in less than a year that they had played 9:30, so that might have had something to do with it. And yeah, still a hell of a show.
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Idlewild at the 9:30 on the 100 Broken Windows tour circa ~2000. Seemed like only 50 people were there.
Chris Whitley at the 9:30 on the Rocket House tour.
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Stellastarr*/The Killers/Ambulance Ltd @ Alley Katz - <25 people
Hmmm...I was at this show with two other people, and I don't remember it being that sparsely attended. Funny that we made up that much of the crowd, in that case.
You were at the Richmond show, not the Black Cat one? I know my friend and I went out to smoke (he smoked, I don't) and walked back in before stellastarr* and walked right up to the rail. There might have been more than 25, but I'd stake alot of money on there being less than 40.
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You were at the Richmond show, not the Black Cat one? I know my friend and I went out to smoke (he smoked, I don't) and walked back in before stellastarr* and walked right up to the rail. There might have been more than 25, but I'd stake alot of money on there being less than 40.
Yeah, I was at the Richmond show. I ate around the corner and missed the Killers. I think we stood toward the middle of the floor, but it was awhile back. To be totally honest with you I just don't remember that well.
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Alley Katz is a terrible venue.
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To be totally honest with you I just don't remember that well.
I'm not trying to be argumentative, that's just how we remember it. I know we laughed at the attendance at the time, and now that The Killers have blown up it's even more of a LOL to us. But I'm sure the actual count is somewhere between my guess and yours, as is usually the case.
Alley Katz is a terrible venue.
An absolute shithole. Viva The National and RIP Toad's Place and 929/Nanci Raygun.
The Triple is actually a nice small venue... for Richmond.
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To be totally honest with you I just don't remember that well.
I'm not trying to be argumentative, that's just how we remember it. I know we laughed at the attendance at the time, and now that The Killers have blown up it's even more of a LOL to us. But I'm sure the actual count is somewhere between my guess and yours, as is usually the case.
Alley Katz is a terrible venue.
An absolute shithole. Viva The National and RIP Toad's Place and 929/Nanci Raygun.
The Triple is actually a nice small venue... for Richmond.
I actually like Alley Katz. It is a dive, for sure, but they have good sound.
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The worse I remember is this semi-legendary Argentine band Los Ratones Paranoicos about two years ago at the State Theatre... These guys come all the way from Argentina and 20 people showed up.. It was embarassing....I think part of the problem was the promoter (whom I know) did not do his work.
They took it in stride and tore the roof off the place..But imagine being a band that has been filling up arenas and opened up for the Rolling Stones at stadiums a whole bunch of times and then you're playing in front of 20 people after traveling so far!
worked out well for me.. I even got to hang out with them backstage and talk with the guitarist (Sarcofago) about Chuck Berry.
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When I lived in Ohio I saw some shows with very few people, not really the case since i moved here.
The lowest here was probably Hayden at Iota, but that had to be 80-100 people.
In Ohio i saw:
The Comas - 30 or so people (Little Brothers)
Kevin Devine - <30 people
The Black Keys - <75 people(though the 'venue' was packed)
and my all time favorite
Afro Man - < 15 people
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Oooh, I saw Hayden at Jammin Java (couple months later) and it was about 30 people!
The lowest here was probably Hayden at Iota, but that had to be 80-100 people.
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I actually like Alley Katz. It is a dive, for sure, but they have good sound.
Alley Katz is an ok venue, they just normally book really terrible stuff.
The Triple is pretty cool. I saw Windy & Carl there last week. And it's about a 5 minute walk from my apartment in the fan.
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I never realized you lived in Richmond, betao.
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The Midnight Juggernauts show at the club last year was pretty sparsely attended
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I remember seeing Electafixion in 1996 and there were maybe 30 or 40 people there. Will Sergeant and Ian Mcculloch were doing a bunch of Echo & the Bunnymen songs and it was a real treat. The people that showed up were going wild. Great show, they treated those of us that showed up REALLY well!
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Does the BRMC show the night of Hurricane Isabel count?
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i think the most sparsely attended show i've been to @ 930 was probably hank III in 2001 (june sometime?).
overall, though..
i saw mono in charlottesville back in 07 shortly after UVA had let out for the summer and there were maybe 30 people there. in the middle of mono's set i was able to walk up to the edge of the stage.
back in 2002 i saw explosions in the sky (with opening act coheed & cambria) @ hole in the wall in richmond. there were about 25 total people at the show. it was a very small room and it wasn't even close to crowded.
other than those three shows, i can't really think of anything i've been to that's been particularly empty. claypool @ the norva in 2001 right after it opened was not very crowded, but it was at least half full.. which is still ~500 or something?
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Does the BRMC show the night of Hurricane Isabel count?
I was at that (Warlocks opened?) and remember that it wasn't packed but was still acceptably attended. But that was a long time ago.
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I never realized you lived in Richmond, betao.
I've lived here all my life, currently a sophomore at VCU.
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Stellastarr*/The Killers/Ambulance Ltd @ Alley Katz - <25 people
Hmmm...I was at this show with two other people, and I don't remember it being that sparsely attended. Funny that we made up that much of the crowd, in that case.
You were at the Richmond show, not the Black Cat one? I know my friend and I went out to smoke (he smoked, I don't) and walked back in before stellastarr* and walked right up to the rail. There might have been more than 25, but I'd stake alot of money on there being less than 40.
I was one of the <25 at this show. I agree, it was criminally under-attended. Certainly no more than 40 people there.
As for Richmond Venues.. agreed, thank god for the National. I remember the flood zone was good for an occasional show years ago, but it folded and became umm.. Have a Nice Day? maybe, not sure.. has a giant smiley face on the side now instead of the flood zone logo. Also twisters.. well, I thought it was great.. for hardcore/punk/metal shows.. but once it became 929/Nanci Raygun it was complete crap. I quite enjoy Alley Katz though, even if it is a hole.. I have hearing damage to this day from seeing Jay Mascis and the Fog there a few years back, with Mike Watt on bass... absolutely ridiculous and under-attended.
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I was at that J Mascis & The Fog show at Alley Katz and still have a poster for it!! I don't remember it being crazy under-attended... we had to stay upstairs since under 21 and it looked pretty packed. AMAZING SHOW!!
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I was at that J Mascis & The Fog show at Alley Katz and still have a poster for it!! I don't remember it being crazy under-attended... we had to stay upstairs since under 21 and it looked pretty packed. AMAZING SHOW!!
Yeah, it wasn't empty by any means, I just expected it to be packed and it wasn't. Dino Jr hadn't been active for quite a while at the time, and his other projects hadn't been around for a while.
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In 2004 I saw Tackhead at the Black Cat.
There were maybe 25 people there.
I got to talk to Adrian Sherwood for 10 minutes.
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it was the same deal at the arlington in ventura. there was nobody there. the highlight by far was hearing "The Killing Moon". Ian sounded absolutely amazing. The crowd was really into them which made up for the lack of people.
I remember seeing Electafixion in 1996 and there were maybe 30 or 40 people there. Will Sergeant and Ian Mcculloch were doing a bunch of Echo & the Bunnymen songs and it was a real treat. The people that showed up were going wild. Great show, they treated those of us that showed up REALLY well!
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In 1998, I went to see Harvey Danger and The Mayfield 4 at 930 following HFStival. There were literally four people in attendance (Myself, two friends and some guy by himself) plus the staff.
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In 1998, I went to see Harvey Danger and The Mayfield 4 at 930 following HFStival. There were literally four people in attendance (Myself, two friends and some guy by himself) plus the staff.
hey, i was at that show! do i know you???
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The Waterboys at the 9:30 in 2001 was a bit sad, cannot give an estimate, but very empty.
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Primal stage was not all the way up. All the way up is second colum, barely enough room to get around the bar to the right. I was at some Fletchers shows that were pathetic when they then played the 930 to 10x the people.
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IOTA is taking a hit in the recession, perhaps other venues are too. (although, I haven't found their bookings to be as adequate after 2003)
Lisa Hannigan didn't quite fill 930, but I think it was a bit oversized venue for her.
For whatever it's worth talking about past shows: Snow Patrol's first show at 930 - about 60-80 ppl?
Jesse Valenzuela and Craig Northey at Iota on Valentine's Day years ago, I think there were 15 ppl.
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i think the most sparsely attended show i've been to @ 930 was probably hank III in 2001 (june sometime?).
Really?
Maybe my perception was skewed from my vantage point (filming upstairs in the VIP section) but I thought he filled it up pretty good. Now when Superjoint Ritual came to town the following year (the band that Hank III played bass in on the side) THAT was a seriously under attended show, maybe 200 at the most. Dio and NY Dolls definitely weren't more than half full either, plenty of room to move around.