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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Christine Moritz on July 15, 2009, 10:05:43 am
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Since the other thread (http://www.930.com/forum/index.php?topic=5271.0) (i.e., the one that began as a roll call for MBV's shows in NYC and at ATP last year) has sunk a bit...
Who else is going to the MBV show in Richmond at the end of the month?
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I'm in!! Had to sell my TOOL *FLOOR* ticket too!!
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Me!
There will be an exclusive Julian's America cocktail party preceding the event AND an after-party for boardies judged to be of sufficient quality. Invites going out this week!
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I'm going..still need to find a place to stay overnight though, the richmond marriot is wayyy pricey that weekend
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alas, i'll be staying in the NYC area that weekend for APW and seeing MBV there. julian's invite makes it damn tempting, i can only imagine how fabulous/debaucherous that get-together might get. hope y'all have fun.
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I'll be there along with a few friends of mine. I haven't been this excited for a show since... I don't even know.
I also may need an extra ticket - does anyone have one to spare?
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i'd go if i had a ticket.
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i'll be there, i'm really excited. it'll be my first time in richmond.
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I am going; looking forward to it!
(Also, I have a few extra tickets and have messaged those who said they were looking..)
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Distance -- if you get a ticket and can go, are you going to tape?
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I will be there. I can not wait.
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They have early entry
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I'll be there then right after the show driving to Jersey for APW
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i'll be there
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I'll be there too
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i would of love to have gone, just to see if i could snag one of those ultra rare julian's america rsvps. sorry, but mbv (to me) is nothing more than moaning at loud frequencies through a fan to ultra pulse light strobe.
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Have been avoiding this thead since I can't go due to various crap in my life and it being too flipping far away from north of Baltimore. :'( :'( :'( (You regulars know I'm crying over that.) But damnit Walkie, I had to respond to your comment. I flipping love your description. Yes, I fully understand what you are saying and why it doesn't appeal to all. That's cool. As it is, that's the kind of sound that sometimes completely enraptures me with complete ecstasy. I would absolutely love to experience the blissful sonic massage of MBV. For what it's worth, I sometimes describe my radio station as sounding like 'a herd of psychedelic cows shoegrazing'.
Can't help but wonder if Seth's bitch about the Live Nation exclusivity contracts has something to do with MBV not playing in either DC or Baltimore. Well, any band skipping this neck of the woods.
Seriously, this one's killing me!
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I think MBV are a band that can play wherever they want and probably made that clear with LN from the getgo. At least I'd like to think that.
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I think MBV are a band that can play wherever they want and probably made that clear with LN from the getgo. At least I'd like to think that.
Never underestimate the evil that is Live Nation!
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Maybe they just wanted to play somewhere more low-key?
Bands who do tours of mostly LN venues still play 930 all the time.
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Someone asked on The National's facebook page how Richmond got a MBV show when other major east coast cities haven't seen them in 18 years and they responded that "several bands including Dinosaur Jr" told Kevin that The National was the best venue in the country and that's why they picked there. I'm sure that's mostly promotional hyperbole, but apparently J Mascis' recommendation (they had just played there in April) had something to do with The National getting that show.
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hmm not sure it's the best but it's pretty good. Sound wise 930 is much better then the national.
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i would of love to have gone, just to see if i could snag one of those ultra rare julian's america rsvps. sorry, but mbv (to me) is nothing more than moaning at loud frequencies through a fan to ultra pulse light strobe.
That's really funny that you think you'd get one.
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i would of love to have gone, just to see if i could snag one of those ultra rare julian's america rsvps. sorry, but mbv (to me) is nothing more than moaning at loud frequencies through a fan to ultra pulse light strobe.
That's really funny that you think you'd get one.
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Jaguar, you cant make it? You will be missed...
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I'll be there. Really looking forward to it. Have to say I'm bummed Jaguar won't be there, since she's really the one who turned me on to shoegaze and MBV.
This will be my first show at the National and my first trip to Richmond. If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know.
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my first trip to Richmond. If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know.
leave as soon as possible.
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If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know.
As far as what? Where to eat? Hotel recommendations?
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hmm not sure it's the best but it's pretty good. Sound wise 930 is much better then the national.
As with most venues that all depends on where you are in the house when listening to the show. The sound at 930 kicks ass especially with the new system. The National has sounded better over the last few months than it did when it first opened. I have no idea if they got new sound people or if the people in place simply learned the equipment better, etc.
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This will be my first show at the National and my first trip to Richmond. If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know.
The city itself sucks. Take the bad parts about DC and magnify them 10x then take the good parts about DC and eliminate them, now you have the city of Richmond. The slip (a few blocks south east of the venue) is the bar scene, but it can be a tad hoity toidy. The only decent place for food close by, Gibson's Grill, is partnered with the venue. It is on the same block as the venue at the corner of 7th and Broad. They have an early entry deal going for most show. As far as parking goes, driving west on Broad Street, take a right on 7th and get in your left lane. There is a deck that the club uses as its 'official' parking. I believe it is $10 to park.
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The only decent place for food close by, Gibson's Grill, is partnered with the venue. It is on the same block as the venue at the corner of 7th and Broad.
Wow, I couldn't disagree more. Not about Gibson's quality (its ok), but that it's the only decent place close by. Guess it depends on your definition of close by but Tobacco Company, LuLu's, Capital Ale House, Comfort, Chez Foushee (lunch only, admittedly), Bistro 27 and Popkins Tavern are all within 10 blocks.
And that parking garage is $5. Someone can go south on 8th to Cary, then loop back around to 7th and going north and find parking after 6 for free within 2-3 blocks of National. No point in paying AT ALL.
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if you don't want to pay for parking all those metered parking areas should be good spots to catch.
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the tobacco comp. is horrible. such a shame, too . . . the decor was delightful.
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the tobacco comp. is horrible. such a shame, too . . . the decor was delightful.
Oh? How do you figure, sport? I haven't been in a year (not a meat eater and not a particularly vegetarian friendly menu) but several of my friends with discerning palettes go frequently and it's a perennial "top 10 restaurants in richmond" list entry from the Times-Dispatch and Style Weekly.
Also I left off Lemaire (Virginia's only 5 star restaurant) and TJ's, both in the Jefferson. FABULOUS.
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anyone have a good hotel to stay at that won't break the bank?
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the tobacco comp. is horrible. such a shame, too . . . the decor was delightful.
Oh? How do you figure, sport? I haven't been in a year (not a meat eater and not a particularly vegetarian friendly menu) but several of my friends with discerning palettes go frequently and it's a perennial "top 10 restaurants in richmond" list entry from the Times-Dispatch and Style Weekly.
Also I left off Lemaire (Virginia's only 5 star restaurant) and TJ's, both in the Jefferson. FABULOUS.
i did only eat there once, and it was atleast a year ago. both my partner and i ordered apps, salads, drinks, totally different meals, and even dessert. after we walked out, we were like
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perhaps it was a case of "bad night" but the food was just not good compared to what i like to eat in dc, especially when it's rated as "one of the town's best." and i stayed at the jefferson once, and fabu is such an understatement, sweetie britches.
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For parking near the National, you're fine on-street wise. Nearly all of the meters aren't in use after 6 PM - its all 2 hr parking from 8 to 6. When I saw SY last week, I parked on 8th st one block from the venue without having to pay a meter.
Also, what is the price range for Gibson's Grill? My group have been thinking about where to eat beforehand.
And Julian, what are the price ranges of some of those restaurants? I know that Tobacco Company and Capital Ale aren't the cheapest, so which ones are?
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anyone have a good hotel to stay at that won't break the bank?
http://www.lindenrowinn.com/
$120, and it's about 7 blocks from The National. Gorgeous building... not The Jefferson, but I think you'd be pleased.
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And Julian, what are the price ranges of some of those restaurants? I know that Tobacco Company and Capital Ale aren't the cheapest, so which ones are?
Capital Ale House is definitely alot cheaper than Tobacco, Lemaire or TJs. You can get a burger and beer for, idk, $15 with tip.
LuLus, Comfort, or Bistro 27 are all going to run you 15-20 for entrees. Popkins Tavern is a gastropub and a definite good value. Really cool building and food whose quality far exceeds its pricetag.
So, in short, Gibson's, Popkins and Capital Ale would be your bottom tier price wise, Comfort, LuLu's, and Bistro 27 the middle tier, and Tobacco, Lemaire and TJ the upper tier. (Because it's been a while since I've busted out some tier rankings!)
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Also, if you're interested in trying Popkin Tavern, this site (http://www.halfoffdeals.com/show-deal.php?promo_id=72167) is selling $50 gift certificates for $25, and you can use them for alcohol too. Pretty good liquor selection as well, I know they have Hendrick's Gin, a personal favorite.
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I second capital ale house. Very good place to go before the show, because of the very nice beer selection (if only it were monday for dollar burger night, it'd be heaven). I also second the notion that there is a whole lot of good food in the area.
However, if you're going to go anywhere further than that, tobacco company et al, you're probably gonna wanna drive (it's only a few blocks, but still, why walk when you can drive and it's easy.. unless you've been drinking).. and if you're going to drive. You need to make your way to the bottom to 17th and Dock street and go to Bottom's Up Pizza. Soooo good. Of if you're in the mood for generic bar food, there's a BW3's right down there too.
It's really not far away, Total of 13 or so blocks from the club.
Anyway, once you're in the bottom, it's not too rough to get back to the National.. just make your way up Main Street for about 10 blocks to 7th and then find somewhere to park. Anywhere between there and Broad street, anywhere on (9th, 8th, 7th running north/south and Grace, Franklin or Main running East/west) is only a one-two block walk to the club and is free street parking.
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I was with you through paragraph 1. Then you told people to go to Bottom's Up Pizza and Buffalo Wild Wings, wtF?
If we're going to get people to drive, send them west towards Carytown and check out Verbena, Avalon, Bacchus or Mezzanine.
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Ha.. I like Bottom's up.. what can i say. Not the best pizza, but i've been hammered way too many times in the bottom to not enjoy it.
Oh... that makes me think of Sin-e. If anyone has the hankering for an irish resaturant pre-MBV.
As for BW3's.. i surely wouldn't go there, but some people may. I know a decent number of people who wouldn't want to stray from their comfort level and stick to chains. It's not me, but it happens.
I also specifically avoided sending people the other way towards the fan and carytown for the reason you mentioned.. waaay too many food options. It'd be very hard to narrow it down to only a few. Avalon and Bacchus are both great places to go, but for my money I'd be heading to Sticky Rice for a delicious bucket of tots before the show. I probably lost you with that one too.
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but for my money I'd be heading to Sticky Rice for a delicious bucket of tots before the show. I probably lost you with that one too.
Nah, we do the Rice every couple of weeks, and that sauce they put on the tater tots is like crack. It's not classy, and the sushi and sashimi is a bit lacking, but always a fun evening. Always.
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The only decent place for food close by, Gibson's Grill, is partnered with the venue. It is on the same block as the venue at the corner of 7th and Broad.
Wow, I couldn't disagree more. Not about Gibson's quality (its ok), but that it's the only decent place close by. Guess it depends on your definition of close by but Tobacco Company, LuLu's, Capital Ale House, Comfort, Chez Foushee (lunch only, admittedly), Bistro 27 and Popkins Tavern are all within 10 blocks.
And that parking garage is $5. Someone can go south on 8th to Cary, then loop back around to 7th and going north and find parking after 6 for free within 2-3 blocks of National. No point in paying AT ALL.
Well I guess our definitions of close vary. TC, Sine, and the others are OK. WAY overpriced, especially TC, but not exactly what I would call close in the sense of walking distance. A lot of those 10 blocks are huge hills and not exactly great places to walk. I did forget about the Ale House. That is just 2 blocks away (on 7th street south of the venue). You are right about parking now that I think about it. It is some other club *cough* that is $10! :)
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...not exactly what I would call close in the sense of walking distance. A lot of those 10 blocks are huge hills and not exactly great places to walk...
Well, with all due respect, dear friend, your particular medical issues might limit the area you wish to walk. I have walked many a time from Shockoe Bottom to The National with other people, and never thought twice about the distance.
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Yeah different definitions of close! :)
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And Julian, what are the price ranges of some of those restaurants? I know that Tobacco Company and Capital Ale aren't the cheapest, so which ones are?
Capital Ale House is definitely alot cheaper than Tobacco, Lemaire or TJs. You can get a burger and beer for, idk, $15 with tip.
LuLus, Comfort, or Bistro 27 are all going to run you 15-20 for entrees. Popkins Tavern is a gastropub and a definite good value. Really cool building and food whose quality far exceeds its pricetag.
So, in short, Gibson's, Popkins and Capital Ale would be your bottom tier price wise, Comfort, LuLu's, and Bistro 27 the middle tier, and Tobacco, Lemaire and TJ the upper tier. (Because it's been a while since I've busted out some tier rankings!)
Cool. Thanks for the heads up.
Also - for anyone venturing to Carytown - eat (even if only for desert) at galaxy diner. Nuff said.
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but for my money I'd be heading to Sticky Rice for a delicious bucket of tots before the show. I probably lost you with that one too.
Nah, we do the Rice every couple of weeks, and that sauce they put on the tater tots is like crack. It's not classy, and the sushi and sashimi is a bit lacking, but always a fun evening. Always.
I just go with their vegan and vegetarian rolls. I enjoy them quite a bit, but it's kinda hard to screw up vegetarian sushi. Agree on the tater tots, quite addicting, and it is always a good time.
Now I just wish the new-ish one up here on H. street was remotely comparable to the one back in Richmond.
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Thanks everyone for the parking and restaurant suggestions in Richmond. Much appreciated. Keep 'em coming if you have more.
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dunno if this has been posted...
NEW (OLD) MY BLOODY VALENTINE SONGS (NOT FAKES, THE REAL DEAL) Kevin song http://www.mediafire.com/?zmygjz2d3lc
Bilinda Song http://www.mediafire.com/?wgwzaom5qmn
Cowboy Song http://www.mediafire.com/?j1mwoxyttnm
these are confirmed to be real and are/were slated for a rarities release sometime in the future
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I think Cowboy Song has been talked about for a while but this is the first link I've seen to it. Thanks.
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Hey! The invites have been sent out, so check your PMs, people!!
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Hey, I think something's wrong with my account...I don't have any PMs ???
Hey! The invites have been sent out, so check your PMs, people!!
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I saw this on another board in reference to the leaked tracks:
Feed The Collapse (from the MBV board) said:
"Yeah, okay so i admit I'm the one who made the tracks. As has been mentioned, the main song of Cowboy Song is Slim Whitman's "Indian Love Call", the looped feedback is Third Eye Foundation's "Sleep"."
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I saw that, too.
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Hey, I think something's wrong with my account...I don't have any PMs ???
Hey! The invites have been sent out, so check your PMs, people!!
he probably sent them all to himself. ;D
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I live six blocks from the National. anyone trying to burn some doob?
In any case, here are my recommendations for food in Richmond . . .
821 Cafe (821 W. Cary St, good burgers, good vegetarian sammiches, charming, very much a relic of GRUNGE 90's)
Comfort (200 W. Broad, walking distance from the National, trendy "American Cuisine" but done proper, good vibes for yuppie fuckwads, PROLIFIC WHISKY COLLECTION, good mac'n'cheese, fish, noveau-meatloaf, et al)
Kuba Kuba (1601 Park Ave, dope Cuban restaurant, tight seating but chill vibes, good strong coffee, cuban sammich, awesome tostones, pasta dishes are pretty rad and huge enough for date sharing)
Alladins (801 W. Broad St, I used to live on top of this joint when I was 19, stoner/drunk fried food, excellent shwarma/gyro/baba ganoush/falafel. You can even get falafel on pizza, open crazy late, tapestries and hookahs to trip out on. kinda sketchy about some additional tax they charge, but good for blazed gyros and curly fries)
Perlys (111 E Grace St, for lunch, breakfast, closes at 3:00 PM, fucking great though, inexpensive short order diner, always playing good jazz, the friendliest cute southern waitresses, awesome sandwiches)
Little Mexico Burrito Chop (Broad and Laurel, next to Alladins, similar aesthetic to Chipotle, but more authentic flavors and cooks, local, free guacamole and chips, good vibes, real tender meat, better selection of vegetarian options for burrito (mushroom, spinach, peppers and onions, a couple more kinds of fresh salsas than Chipotle)
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Hey, I think something's wrong with my account...I don't have any PMs ???
Hey! The invites have been sent out, so check your PMs, people!!
I know what you said about me to Mr. Pretentious last year! Julian's America has a long memory!
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Comfort (200 W. Broad, walking distance from the National, trendy "American Cuisine" but done proper, good vibes for yuppie fuckwads, PROLIFIC WHISKY COLLECTION, good mac'n'cheese, fish, noveau-meatloaf, et al)
This is the only place you listed I like, but it's a definite winner. Excellent liquor selection all around.
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I've been to a decent amount of places that have hookahs and the gratuitous taxes seem to be a uniform thing with them. Wonder why that is.
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Comfort ... trendy "American Cuisine" but done proper, good vibes for yuppie fuckwads, PROLIFIC WHISKY COLLECTION,
This is the only place you listed I like
any regular on this board could have guessed as much.
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I live six blocks from the National. anyone trying to burn some doob?
In any case, here are my recommendations for food in Richmond . . .
821 Cafe (821 W. Cary St, good burgers, good vegetarian sammiches, charming, very much a relic of GRUNGE 90's)
Comfort (200 W. Broad, walking distance from the National, trendy "American Cuisine" but done proper, good vibes for yuppie fuckwads, PROLIFIC WHISKY COLLECTION, good mac'n'cheese, fish, noveau-meatloaf, et al)
Kuba Kuba (1601 Park Ave, dope Cuban restaurant, tight seating but chill vibes, good strong coffee, cuban sammich, awesome tostones, pasta dishes are pretty rad and huge enough for date sharing)
Alladins (801 W. Broad St, I used to live on top of this joint when I was 19, stoner/drunk fried food, excellent shwarma/gyro/baba ganoush/falafel. You can even get falafel on pizza, open crazy late, tapestries and hookahs to trip out on. kinda sketchy about some additional tax they charge, but good for blazed gyros and curly fries)
Perlys (111 E Grace St, for lunch, breakfast, closes at 3:00 PM, fucking great though, inexpensive short order diner, always playing good jazz, the friendliest cute southern waitresses, awesome sandwiches)
Little Mexico Burrito Chop (Broad and Laurel, next to Alladins, similar aesthetic to Chipotle, but more authentic flavors and cooks, local, free guacamole and chips, good vibes, real tender meat, better selection of vegetarian options for burrito (mushroom, spinach, peppers and onions, a couple more kinds of fresh salsas than Chipotle)
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opening act - Dinosaur Jr
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For the MBV show?!?!?!?!
opening act - Dinosaur Jr
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Hmmm, I don't think I've ever met Mr. Pretentious, and if I had, I'd think the only person I'd complain about on this board would be Joe and him stalking me.
But I digress...my trip to Richmond will be in and out...no time for champagne coolies on my drive. Plus, I'd be worrying too much about what to wear!
I know what you said about me to Mr. Pretentious last year! Julian's America has a long memory!
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opening act - Dinosaur Jr
I can't find this anywhere. Source?
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Hmmm, I don't think I've ever met Mr. Pretentious, and if I had, I'd think the only person I'd complain about on this board would be Joe and him stalking me.
But I digress...my trip to Richmond will be in and out...no time for champagne coolies on my drive. Plus, I'd be worrying too much about what to wear!
It is possible that the fabled-long memory of Julian's America has swapped you with Joe Marshmellow in the recesses of its catacomb of knowledge!
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Totally ouch ;D
It is possible that the fabled-long memory of Julian's America has swapped you with Joe Marshmellow in the recesses of its catacomb of knowledge!
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opening act - Dinosaur Jr
I can't find this anywhere. Source?
I hope this is correct. They would definitely be a good opener.
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Pretty sure it's not them since they just played there like a month or so ago. I don't think there is an opening band.
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Pretty sure it's not them since they just played there like a month or so ago. I don't think there is an opening band.
It does say "with a special guest," which is standard language on the venue's website for "opener TBA." I'm sure there'll be somebody, but Dino Jr would probably be hoping for too much.
Then again, on the National's facebook page someone asked why MBV was playing there instead of somewhere else and they said Dino Jr. told them it was the best venue in the country, so maybe??
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hmmm could be. no other band listed on pollstar playing that night so who knows.
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This would be incredible!
So how many other boardies does Joe regularly stalk? Nkotb makes two that I know of.
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He told me I was the only one :(
So how many other boardies does Joe regularly stalk? Nkotb makes two that I know of.
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This would be incredible!
I don't usually believe non-regular members saying something when I can't find any outside verification and they don't tell us where they heard it from. ESPECIALLY when their user name is a Billie Joel song! Eww!
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You're not although he'll deny it. I have the creepy texts about another that prove otherwise.
He told me I was the only one :(
So how many other boardies does Joe regularly stalk? Nkotb makes two that I know of.
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don't wear a shirt, just shorts with no undies.
Plus, I'd be worrying too much about what to wear!
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opening act - Dinosaur Jr
no wai. source??
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from the fuji festival in japan on the 25th to richmond va. that would be serious. and good god, look at that line up on the slopes of naeba.
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hmm I think it's possible after the show in Japan to come to the US and play. I don't know where the thought of them playing besides the fact that they loved playing the national last time. Someone call the club and ask.
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or it could be mogwai since their us tour starts on the 31st at apw.
they did open up for mbv and dino jr at atp.
edit: nm, they'll be at field day during that time.
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oof. i'm late to the party.
i'll be there with mr. pretentious and another friend in tow.
also it will be a kind of birthday celebration for me since i have to move on my actual birthday (tomorrow).
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no one knows haha and its weird it hasn't been listend on pollstar yet as they usually always have everyone that plays that night.
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Maybe it'll be Kevin and Patti Smith doing that spoken word/guitar thing they did in London.
That would be sweet (and impossible).
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I just called The National. They don't know who the opener is, and told me that they might even know until the day of.
Doesn't really get us anywhere :-/
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it will probably all end up being some local and from Richmond
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it will be a julian's america fashion show, with waif bitches and euro dudes galore. arrive early to score some yummy foie gras and caviar nibblies. plus there will be a heidsieck rose champange dunking booth.
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pass
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it will be a julian's america fashion show, with waif bitches and euro dudes galore. arrive early to score some yummy foie gras and caviar nibblies. plus there will be a heidsieck rose champange dunking booth.
Pfft... My Bloody Valentine would be opening for us. Julian's America plays warm-up for no act.
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Blues Control would be cool. They're based in Richmond now.
it will probably all end up being some local and from Richmond
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i'm kinda sad i didn't get an invite.
boo urns.
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i'm kinda sad i didn't get an invite.
boo urns.
I don't think you'd posted in this thread that you were attending at the time invites went out. :(
Sorry, all the seats are taken at my table for the pre-show cocktail party and dinner. If you want to come after-party, you're more than welcome to, although sadly we have a "no-beards and no-people-who've-talked-crap-about-julian-in-the-past" rule so you'd have to come solo, I think.
I understand if those circumstances predicate you declining.
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who all in here is going to be at julians shin dig
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i'm not remembering the "people who've talked crap about julian in the past" moment...
i'm kinda sad i didn't get an invite.
boo urns.
I don't think you'd posted in this thread that you were attending at the time invites went out. :(
Sorry, all the seats are taken at my table for the pre-show cocktail party and dinner. If you want to come after-party, you're more than welcome to, although sadly we have a "no-beards and no-people-who've-talked-crap-about-julian-in-the-past" rule so you'd have to come solo, I think.
I understand if those circumstances predicate you declining.
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who all in here is going to be at julians shin dig
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hmmm looks too peaceful for his get together ;D
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and not enough gin.
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That doesn't appear to be a standardized formal table setting.
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Enjoy.
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I just put Strawberry Wine on for the first time in a long while. It sounds like The Pains of Being Pure at Heart listened to only this for five years before recording their album.
There's actually some really good stuff on here, though.
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Jaguar, you need to somehow make this happen!
It looks like tickets are readily available on here and according to that Dallas Observer interview w/ Kevin from a few months back, this may be your last chance to see this set. Would be a shame for you to miss it.
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Jaguar, you need to somehow make this happen!
It looks like tickets are readily available on here and according to that Dallas Observer interview w/ Kevin from a few months back, this may be your last chance to see this set. Would be a shame for you to miss it.
Would absolutely love to but, alas, I have no way of getting to Richmond. :-\
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you should try and get a ride with some of the boardies, maybe hutch will be going ;D
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you should try and get a ride with some of the boardies, maybe hutch will be going ;D
Ha ha...Its a natural DC show! I can't support that..
You guys have fun.. I'm going to Depeche Mode Tuesday and thats probably enough for me...By the time I get home it will feel like I came from Richmond..
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yeah I was offered tickets for Depeche Mode, but turned them down because I can't stand the Nisan traffic. Going to Trail of Dead Wednesday, MBV Thursday, then Dan Deacon/Deerhunter/NoAge on Friday
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In anticipation of Thursday's MBV show in Richmond, I did a My Bloody Valentine special on my radio show yesterday:
http://www.930.com/forum/index.php?topic=19268.0
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They have early entry
What time?
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Recap of parking suggestions:
As far as parking goes, driving west on Broad Street, take a right on 7th and get in your left lane. There is a deck that the club uses as its 'official' parking. I believe it is $10 to park.
And that parking garage is $5. Someone can go south on 8th to Cary, then loop back around to 7th and going north and find parking after 6 for free within 2-3 blocks of National. No point in paying AT ALL.
if you don't want to pay for parking all those metered parking areas should be good spots to catch.
For parking near the National, you're fine on-street wise. Nearly all of the meters aren't in use after 6 PM - its all 2 hr parking from 8 to 6. When I saw SY last week, I parked on 8th st one block from the venue without having to pay a meter.
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Still no opener announced? Strange.
Still hoping that there is something to Captain Jack's comment but it would be listed on the Dino website by now or at least one would think it would.
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what is a good time to leave the DC area for Richmond ??
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I'm planning 3 or 3:30 departure. Traffic always sucks heading that way, and this way I can grab a good meal and get to the venue a little early, for whoever opens the show. But I hardly know best...
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There some that would say never
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Recap of boardie attendees:
Christine Moritz
RustyOrgan
Julian, Certified WEBLEBRITY
Got Haggis?
betao
slowgraffiti
secretsquirrel
killsaly
wml7
teepo
Mobius
Darth Ed
nkotb (?)
miss pretentious (w/mr. pretentious)
Apologies if I missed anyone...
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Recap of food recommendations/discussion/disagreements:
The only decent place for food close by, Gibson's Grill, is partnered with the venue. It is on the same block as the venue at the corner of 7th and Broad. They have an early entry deal going for most show.
Wow, I couldn't disagree more. Not about Gibson's quality (its ok), but that it's the only decent place close by. Guess it depends on your definition of close by but Tobacco Company, LuLu's, Capital Ale House, Comfort, Chez Foushee (lunch only, admittedly), Bistro 27 and Popkins Tavern are all within 10 blocks.
the tobacco comp. is horrible. such a shame, too . . . the decor was delightful.
Oh? How do you figure, sport? I haven't been in a year (not a meat eater and not a particularly vegetarian friendly menu) but several of my friends with discerning palettes go frequently and it's a perennial "top 10 restaurants in richmond" list entry from the Times-Dispatch and Style Weekly.
Also I left off Lemaire (Virginia's only 5 star restaurant) and TJ's, both in the Jefferson. FABULOUS.
i did only eat there once, and it was atleast a year ago. both my partner and i ordered apps, salads, drinks, totally different meals, and even dessert. after we walked out, we were like [image: "hated it"]
perhaps it was a case of "bad night" but the food was just not good compared to what i like to eat in dc, especially when it's rated as "one of the town's best." and i stayed at the jefferson once, and fabu is such an understatement, sweetie britches.
Also, what is the price range for Gibson's Grill? My group have been thinking about where to eat beforehand.
And Julian, what are the price ranges of some of those restaurants? I know that Tobacco Company and Capital Ale aren't the cheapest, so which ones are?
Capital Ale House is definitely alot cheaper than Tobacco, Lemaire or TJs. You can get a burger and beer for, idk, $15 with tip.
LuLus, Comfort, or Bistro 27 are all going to run you 15-20 for entrees. Popkins Tavern is a gastropub and a definite good value. Really cool building and food whose quality far exceeds its pricetag.
So, in short, Gibson's, Popkins and Capital Ale would be your bottom tier price wise, Comfort, LuLu's, and Bistro 27 the middle tier, and Tobacco, Lemaire and TJ the upper tier. (Because it's been a while since I've busted out some tier rankings!)
Also, if you're interested in trying Popkin Tavern, this site (http://www.halfoffdeals.com/show-deal.php?promo_id=72167) is selling $50 gift certificates for $25, and you can use them for alcohol too. Pretty good liquor selection as well, I know they have Hendrick's Gin, a personal favorite.
I second capital ale house. Very good place to go before the show, because of the very nice beer selection (if only it were monday for dollar burger night, it'd be heaven). I also second the notion that there is a whole lot of good food in the area.
However, if you're going to go anywhere further than that, tobacco company et al, you're probably gonna wanna drive (it's only a few blocks, but still, why walk when you can drive and it's easy.. unless you've been drinking).. and if you're going to drive. You need to make your way to the bottom to 17th and Dock street and go to Bottom's Up Pizza. Soooo good. Of if you're in the mood for generic bar food, there's a BW3's right down there too.
It's really not far away, Total of 13 or so blocks from the club.
Anyway, once you're in the bottom, it's not too rough to get back to the National.. just make your way up Main Street for about 10 blocks to 7th and then find somewhere to park. Anywhere between there and Broad street, anywhere on (9th, 8th, 7th running north/south and Grace, Franklin or Main running East/west) is only a one-two block walk to the club and is free street parking.
I was with you through paragraph 1. Then you told people to go to Bottom's Up Pizza and Buffalo Wild Wings, wtF?
If we're going to get people to drive, send them west towards Carytown and check out Verbena, Avalon, Bacchus or Mezzanine.
Ha.. I like Bottom's up.. what can i say. Not the best pizza, but i've been hammered way too many times in the bottom to not enjoy it.
Oh... that makes me think of Sin-e. If anyone has the hankering for an irish resaturant pre-MBV.
As for BW3's.. i surely wouldn't go there, but some people may. I know a decent number of people who wouldn't want to stray from their comfort level and stick to chains. It's not me, but it happens.
I also specifically avoided sending people the other way towards the fan and carytown for the reason you mentioned.. waaay too many food options. It'd be very hard to narrow it down to only a few. Avalon and Bacchus are both great places to go, but for my money I'd be heading to Sticky Rice for a delicious bucket of tots before the show. I probably lost you with that one too.
but for my money I'd be heading to Sticky Rice for a delicious bucket of tots before the show. I probably lost you with that one too.
Nah, we do the Rice every couple of weeks, and that sauce they put on the tater tots is like crack. It's not classy, and the sushi and sashimi is a bit lacking, but always a fun evening. Always.
Well I guess our definitions of close vary. TC, Sine, and the others are OK. WAY overpriced, especially TC, but not exactly what I would call close in the sense of walking distance. A lot of those 10 blocks are huge hills and not exactly great places to walk. I did forget about the Ale House. That is just 2 blocks away (on 7th street south of the venue).
Also - for anyone venturing to Carytown - eat (even if only for desert) at galaxy diner. Nuff said.
[re. Sticky Rice:]
I just go with their vegan and vegetarian rolls. I enjoy them quite a bit, but it's kinda hard to screw up vegetarian sushi. Agree on the tater tots, quite addicting, and it is always a good time.
Now I just wish the new-ish one up here on H. street was remotely comparable to the one back in Richmond.
here are my recommendations for food in Richmond . . .
821 Cafe (821 W. Cary St, good burgers, good vegetarian sammiches, charming, very much a relic of GRUNGE 90's)
Comfort (200 W. Broad, walking distance from the National, trendy "American Cuisine" but done proper, good vibes for yuppie fuckwads, PROLIFIC WHISKY COLLECTION, good mac'n'cheese, fish, noveau-meatloaf, et al)
Kuba Kuba (1601 Park Ave, dope Cuban restaurant, tight seating but chill vibes, good strong coffee, cuban sammich, awesome tostones, pasta dishes are pretty rad and huge enough for date sharing)
Alladins (801 W. Broad St, I used to live on top of this joint when I was 19, stoner/drunk fried food, excellent shwarma/gyro/baba ganoush/falafel. You can even get falafel on pizza, open crazy late, tapestries and hookahs to trip out on. kinda sketchy about some additional tax they charge, but good for blazed gyros and curly fries)
Perlys (111 E Grace St, for lunch, breakfast, closes at 3:00 PM, fucking great though, inexpensive short order diner, always playing good jazz, the friendliest cute southern waitresses, awesome sandwiches)
Little Mexico Burrito Chop (Broad and Laurel, next to Alladins, similar aesthetic to Chipotle, but more authentic flavors and cooks, local, free guacamole and chips, good vibes, real tender meat, better selection of vegetarian options for burrito (mushroom, spinach, peppers and onions, a couple more kinds of fresh salsas than Chipotle)
Comfort (200 W. Broad, walking distance from the National, trendy "American Cuisine" but done proper, good vibes for yuppie fuckwads, PROLIFIC WHISKY COLLECTION, good mac'n'cheese, fish, noveau-meatloaf, et al)
This is the only place you listed I like, but it's a definite winner. Excellent liquor selection all around.
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nice recaps ;D
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thanks, mom ;D
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LOL!
It's in large part for my own use, so I can easily copy/paste and print things like the parking info and food recommendations. (I don't know Richmond at all.) But I figured others could profit too.
;)
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I'm in provided work doesn't screw me over in the next 36 hours. We'll see...
Recap of boardie attendees:
Christine Moritz
RustyOrgan
Julian, Certified WEBLEBRITY
Got Haggis?
betao
slowgraffiti
secretsquirrel
killsaly
wml7
teepo
Mobius
Darth Ed
nkotb (?)
miss pretentious (w/mr. pretentious)
Apologies if I missed anyone...
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I want to meet everyone*!!
*And by "everyone," I mean "Christine Moritz, Got Haggis, Mobius, Darth Ed, and nkotb, and the rest of you can rot in hell!"
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great, just great :'(
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If anyone wants to go but doesn't have a ticket, they just released a handful of tickets on ticketmaster.
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I want to meet everyone*!!
*And by "everyone," I mean "Christine Moritz, Got Haggis, Mobius, Darth Ed, and nkotb, and the rest of you can rot in hell!"
How come I didn't get an invitation to your shindig, then?
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How come I didn't get an invitation to your shindig, then?
If you're ok with sitting on the loveseat while you eat, and are willing to DJ, you can come!
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I want to meet everyone*!!
*And by "everyone," I mean "Christine Moritz, Got Haggis, Mobius, Darth Ed, and nkotb, and the rest of you can rot in hell!"
How come I didn't get an invitation to your shindig, then?
a ha :o
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How come I didn't get an invitation to your shindig, then?
If you're ok with sitting on the loveseat while you eat, and are willing to DJ, you can come!
wow :o
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Recap of boardie attendees:
Christine Moritz
RustyOrgan
Julian, Certified WEBLEBRITY
Got Haggis?
betao
slowgraffiti
secretsquirrel
killsaly
wml7
teepo
Mobius
Darth Ed
nkotb (?)
miss pretentious (w/mr. pretentious)
Apologies if I missed anyone...
I will be there as well, but most of you don't care about me, which is ok, cause I don't care about most of you either.
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sounds like quite a party... someone please take pix or something..
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Recap of boardie attendees:
Christine Moritz
RustyOrgan
Julian, Certified WEBLEBRITY
Got Haggis?
betao
slowgraffiti
secretsquirrel
killsaly
wml7
teepo
Mobius
Darth Ed
nkotb (?)
miss pretentious (w/mr. pretentious)
Apologies if I missed anyone...
I will be there as well, but most of you don't care about me, which is ok, cause I don't care about most of you either.
very nice
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Recap of boardie attendees:
Christine Moritz
RustyOrgan
Julian, Certified WEBLEBRITY
Got Haggis?
betao
slowgraffiti
secretsquirrel
killsaly
wml7
teepo
Mobius
Darth Ed
nkotb (?)
miss pretentious (w/mr. pretentious)
Apologies if I missed anyone...
I will be there as well, but most of you don't care about me, which is ok, cause I don't care about most of you either.
Joe and I got left off, too.
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it's all julians fault
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can we all hold hands?
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I will be there as well, but most of you don't care about me, which is ok, cause I don't care about most of you either.
Joe and I got left off, too.
Sorry 'bout that -- I looked specifically for people who'd said "I'll be there" or something similar, and (IIRC) you'd posted in the thread but hadn't said whether you were attending.
What is Joe's forum name?
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Hello sunshine Marshmallow
It was something like "joe m" for the longest time so I assumed everyone knew who that referred to.
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He should be easy enough to find if I'm there. Just look for someone feverishly dry-humping my leg.
Hello sunshine Marshmallow
It was something like "joe m" for the longest time so I assumed everyone knew who that referred to.
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Just a heads up for anyone who has will call:
They're already allowing tickets to the show to be picked up. I was at the venue earlier today and was able to do so.
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Additional tickets just released for this show. http://www.nattickets.com or http://www.ticketmaster.com
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Additional tickets just released for this show. http://www.nattickets.com or http://www.ticketmaster.com
now if only extra julian's america ultra rare night out on the town of cary indulgence would be released.
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/115/312446139_8f0d69d078.jpg?v=0)
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Look, I can't just add more people to the dinner party. It's not possible.
That said, anyone who wants to go to the after-party can PM me their cell number and I'll get in touch with most of you sometime before the show with the location.
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Look, I can't just add more people to the dinner party. It's not possible.
That said, anyone who wants to go to the after-party can PM me their cell number and I'll get in touch with most of you sometime before the show with the location.
(http://www.freewebs.com/panho/fmj1.JPG)
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love you long time ;D
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I don't think I've met any of the boardies who are going tonight.
I will probably be wearing a "Lemur Lounge Is for Lovers" T-shirt. If you see me, say hi!
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I'll be the guy there say hi all ;D
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looks like I'll be wearing my FOETUS t-shirt since that is what i'm wearing now. Any word on the openers?
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just called the club they still don't know. They said they won't know until the bands start arriving later in the day.
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Seems to still be the status. Show is starting at 8, but when MBV goes on is still unknown. I imagine it can't be earlier than 9-9:30.
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So who will be wearing ear plugs? :o
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hopefully they will be selling them there...i forgot to bring mine :(
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they probably have them there
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So who will be wearing ear plugs? :o
hopefully, everyone.
hopefully they will be selling them there...
i'd imagine it would be a liability issue if they didn't.
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Per the lady running the box office when you call the venue:
Doors 7
Super-Secret Mystery Opener 8
MBV 9
Get there early, folks!
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So much for Dino Jr/J. Mascis rumours: Kurt Easley (of The Lilys) confirmed as the opener. :(
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Made it to the venue with 30+ minutes to spare. Now unwinding with a Magic Hat #9 draft. Tasty beer. The National is a very nice venue! I'm about 12 feet from the stage in the middle and wearing a gray athletic shirt if anyone wants to say hi.
P.S. Big thanks to Christine for the recap posts! You rock!
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Yeah I just got here myself. Left at 5 from Annapolis an took 301. I'm back by the sound booth, was hoping to get here earlier oh well, super excited for the show!
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Kurt Easley (of The Lilys) confirmed as the opener. :(
That definitely was not "very special". @nici tweeted "weak sauce"... Ha!
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number nine on draft makes you beer drinker who knows what they are doing. good job.
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I had to bail due to a late night and early morning at work tomorrow, so I couldn't be happier for the opener NOT to be Dinosaur Jr!
Enjoy kids!
Kurt Easley (of The Lilys) confirmed as the opener. :(
That definitely was not "very special". @nici tweeted "weak sauce"... Ha!
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945 and still not on stage. Need to stop ending songs mid way through like they are going to come out, then don't!!
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So much for Dino Jr/J. Mascis rumours: Kurt Easley (of The Lilys) confirmed as the opener. :(
Hey Julian, you turning Northern English on us and dropping your h's? :D It's Kurt Heasley.
Anyone else think that Kurt is morphing into Stephen Malkmus?
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Ok just got out of the national. Awesome show. Last song had to be the song where people said they threw up at coachella after hearing it. I didn't meet any boardies however I did run into Christine but I didn't introduce myself. Christine you asked me while I was in line if this was the line for will call tickets. Didn't realize it was you at first but then saw the shirt and thought thats her. I wanted to ask you about the ones and the twos ;D I hoarded the whole show on video and will upload that some time next week. Not sure how it will sound as I was left side right in front of the speaker. Hopefully it's not distorted. I must drive to NJ now for all points now. Wheres a cat photo?
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Holy. Shit.
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loudest show I've ever been to, total brain massage.
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Last song had to be the song where people said they threw up at coachella after hearing it.
in cases you want a name for it, it's called the "holocaust section" of You Made Me Realise (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Made_Me_Realise)
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loudest show I've ever been to, total brain massage.
Two girls next to me bolted after the third song with hands on ears. Then during 'Realise' a group of jockish dudes took off with defeated looks on their faces.
Not only brain massage, the hair on my arms was sticking straight up vibrating to the music.
It was cool to see/hear they really aren't just Kevin's band.
Debbie and Colm are a tight rhythm section that make them shine live.
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Words can not describe how intense that was.
Seriously - Wow.
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holy. shit. awesome as before. but a bit different ith the smaller venue. it was really nice and not super crowded and wow. wow. wow. also the lily's guy was awful. and just a complete mismatched opening act.
i managed to escape w/ shields' setlist so here it is for anyone wondering.
i swear it didn't seem like they played all that though....
i only said
when you sleep
you never should
when you wake
cigarette
come in alone
only shallow
thorn
nothing much to lose
to here knows when
slow
soon
feed me with your kiss
you made me realise
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Great show!!
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yeah, the show was incredible - i was laughing the entire time through the holocaust section, it was simply amazing. I stayed overnight in Richmond - woke up at 6am and drove to Annapolis for work...tempted to go to all points west now just to see them again, even though it won't be anywhere near as cool as the national (that was my first time there....great venue, would make the trek down there again for the right band)
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Miss P -- I don't keep track of setlists during shows, but I have a weird uncontrollable habit of counting songs bands play, and I had 14 at shows' end, so I guess they did play everything on that setlist.
And opener aside, this was one of the best shows I've ever seen. The sound was overwhelming yet very clear where I was standing. I think the claims of The National having a bad sound system/acoustics can be put to rest. Wow.
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The sound was overwhelming yet very clear where I was standing. I think the claims of The National having a bad sound system/acoustics can be put to rest.
did MBV use the national's PA system, or their own? i thought they were touring with their own - thus, we might not be able to draw any conclusions abut the national's PA...
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Yeah, that was just as incredible as the Roseland show I caught. And they did indeed play all that. Roseland had Sueisfine but other than that, I'm pretty sure it was the same setlist. That dude from the Lilys must be good friends with them; only way I could've seen him getting that gig.
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The sound was overwhelming yet very clear where I was standing. I think the claims of The National having a bad sound system/acoustics can be put to rest.
did MBV use the national's PA system, or their own? i thought they were touring with their own - thus, we might not be able to draw any conclusions abut the national's PA...
MBV used their own equipment.
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I'm sure I'll get beat up for this, but I actually thought the sound was pretty so-so, or worse. Having never seen MBV live, I was basically hoping for something better than a wall of sound. The bass was way too powerful in the mix, when she was complaining about it on stage, i was complaining about it on the floor. I really didn't expect to hear any vocals, but I found it hilarious that they still kept trying to sing. And the "holocaust" section during Realize to me was simply self-indulgent and unnecessary.
While not a life-long MBV fan, I have always liked Loveless. And the experience of seeing them was awesome, and the show was good, but I was not blown away at all. Sorry to be the debbie downer in the room...
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I had never seen them before, and was a little surprised at the volume.. I guess when I thought everyone said MBV was loud, that it meant there would be huge blaring guitars in the mix. Instead it was REALLY loud bass and such, and that made it really overwhelming and stuff (which was awesome) but it also made songs like Only Shallow kind of disappointing. Maybe it was where I was standing? (in the middle, about half way between the sound board and stage) It just would've been nice if the bass and drums didn't totally engulf the vocals and guitars.
Great show overall though. I did not expect to like the Holocaust, but I really enjoyed it. You could pan around and see so many people smiling... excellent.
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Only Shallow is one song I don't think they have/will ever pin down live.
And the vocals sounded as audible to me as they do on the albums in most songs. I couldn't hear any in I Only Said but that was it.
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Got the first song up. In Jersey now looks like it's going to rain a shit storm for APW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZSk378Kyrs&feature=channel_page
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Wheres a cat photo?
(http://arttozen.com/images/products/incenses/Hear%20No%20Cats.JPG)
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The sound was overwhelming yet very clear where I was standing. I think the claims of The National having a bad sound system/acoustics can be put to rest.
did MBV use the national's PA system, or their own? i thought they were touring with their own - thus, we might not be able to draw any conclusions abut the national's PA...
MBV used their own equipment.
therefore claims of The National having a bad sound system cannot be put to rest - sorry jules.
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Well to be fair, claims of venues having bad sound systems can never ever be put to rest no matter what. Some people seem to think it's some sort of gloriously hipster-iffic contrarian position to tell everyone how every venue they've ever stepped in have bad sound.
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There was an awesome old British dude, mostly bald flanked by white wings of freak hair that was chilling by the soundbooth who must have been the MBV soundguy.
I did the first song without earplugs and then spent the rest of the set sort of in and out of the earplugs. Taking them out I was able to hear way more of the intense, constantly squeeling guitar feedback from Belinda's amps that was non-existent with earplugs in, but the bass and a couple of the drums were so heavy in the mix it crushed my drone feedback boner.
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Ahhhhh, that was so great!
Got to Richmond later than I hoped and after a burger and a couple of Macallan's 12 at Gibson's I got into the National at 7:45, got a legend beer and found a good spot midway back of the floor, center, and waited and waited. . . I almost never do that, but it was a solid real estate investment . . . the opener was fine background music as I relived in my head the different times i listened to MBV over the years, tried to remember where I bought Loveless, Isn't Anythiing, the Glider ep, that other ep, how much I paid etc., etc., etc., until finally it started
I took my earplugs out early in the first song and didn't put them back in until the Realise noisefest. . . didn't seem dangeroulsy loud to me and the only really jarring thing were those intermittant bass earthquakes shaking the foundation of the songs, the venue and your body . . . and the clarity of the drums and trying to hear all the nuances of the mix were too much to miss given the apparent lack of danger
One thing that often gets overlooked w/ MBV is how f*cking great Colm O'Coisig is on drums . . .clean nuclear fills driving many songs . . . driving the waves of sound, or is it riding the waves of sound . . . or more subtley providing structure
Certainly Kevin was inaudible at times, but mostly he and Bilinda could be heard . . . and anyway, the vocals floating in and out is to be expected/hoped for
When the band locked in, and Bilinda coooed over the mix, or traded vocals with Kevin . . . time disappeared and it was the greatest
The Realise 'holocaust' was cool, but had been so built up in my mind prior that the shock and awe element was diminished . . . but it was interesting just getting lost in it and trying to discern the texture of it and it struck me how particularly clear and powerful the song sounded when they dropped back into the regular verse.
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Longshot I know but what was the song they played over the PA before the Pentagram song between sets? The melody has been stuck in my head for three days but I can't place it. It was sort of an upbeat psychedelic pop song.
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I am finally catching up with forum stuff after being offline for most of Friday-Saturday-Sunday...
I didn't meet any boardies however I did run into Christine but I didn't introduce myself. Christine you asked me while I was in line if this was the line for will call tickets. Didn't realize it was you at first but then saw the shirt and thought thats her. I wanted to ask you about the ones and the twos ;D
Too bad you didn't introduce yourself!
I really enjoyed the show. Will post more detailed thoughts later...
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My thoughts on the show:
I really enjoyed it. My memory of the MBV show I attended in spring 1992 is somewhat hazy after 17.5 years, but I was really blown away by that show and was worried a bit that this one might suffer in comparison.
Like Slappy and Mobius, I was impressed with the rhythm section of Debbie and Colm (especially Colm). They really seemed to be the core of the live show -- full of energy, very kinetic, interesting to watch.
I regret to say that I thought Bilinda Butcher was almost completely lacking in stage presence -- I love her voice, but she didn't seem to manifest any energy or emotion either while singing or playing guitar. (I'm not sure if this was also the case during the 1992 show or if maybe I was too far away to tell either way.) Kevin Shields, on the other hand, did seem to be into what he was doing. So that was good.
I didn't think the sound in the venue was perfect, but I was so far up in the front (the second or third "row" of people) that it might have sounded different to me than to someone further back, more within the range of one or both banks of speakers. Bilinda's vocals were audible, but Kevin's were so low that someone near me kept yelling "Turn on your mic!" I got the impression that the balance in the monitors onstage was different than the balance in the house sound.
I also thought that the bass was excessive, but that might've been what MBV was aiming for.
I loved the show overall, and I knew what was coming with the "holocaust" section of "You Made Me Realise"... but it did seem unnecessary and self-indulgent, especially given how short the show was. They could've used that time to play 2-3 other songs! I didn't find it "loud" per se (I was wearing earplugs the whole time), but the force of that sheer wall of sound made me feel somehow constricted in the throat, like I was going to choke or something. I was just waiting for it to be over.
Debbie and Colm are a tight rhythm section that make them shine live.
One thing that often gets overlooked w/ MBV is how f*cking great Colm O'Coisig is on drums . . .clean nuclear fills driving many songs . . . driving the waves of sound, or is it riding the waves of sound . . . or more subtley providing structure
Certainly Kevin was inaudible at times, but mostly he and Bilinda could be heard . . . and anyway, the vocals floating in and out is to be expected/hoped for
When the band locked in, and Bilinda coooed over the mix, or traded vocals with Kevin . . . time disappeared and it was the greatest
I'm sure I'll get beat up for this, but I actually thought the sound was pretty so-so, or worse. Having never seen MBV live, I was basically hoping for something better than a wall of sound. The bass was way too powerful in the mix, when she was complaining about it on stage, i was complaining about it on the floor. I really didn't expect to hear any vocals, but I found it hilarious that they still kept trying to sing. And the "holocaust" section during Realize to me was simply self-indulgent and unnecessary.
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Debbie is a joy to watch! ;D
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Debbie was a total badass. Hell, they all were.
The show itself was amazing. Loud and everything - I thought the sound was fine, but then again, I'm not a sound wiz or anything. But I thought the sound, especially during the holocaust, was cool. And, speaking of the holocaust, holy poo on a stick. That was the most intense noise I've ever experienced (sorry aphex twin, you're coachella set is now 2nd).
My only complaint is that Kevin's vocals weren't loud enough. Yes yes yes, I know - the vocals aren't really the highlight of shoegaze. On Loveless, you really can't tell what Kevin or Bilinda are saying. But you can still hear them, and that is what I wanted to experience. I don't want to hear what they're saying, but I do want to hear their voices, even if the words are practically indecipherable. I think that's what makes it real shoegaze - you can hear the vocals but can't understand them. Hopefully that makes some sense.
Btw, I talked to the sound engineer after the show. He said they hit 130 decibels during Realise.
And from where I was, as soon as they turned on the lights after YMMR, you could see chips of paint falling from the ceiling.
Amazing.
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Btw, I talked to the sound engineer after the show. He said they hit 130 decibels during Realise.
And from where I was, as soon as they turned on the lights after YMMR, you could see chips of paint falling from the ceiling.
Amazing.
try telling yourself that five to ten years from now when "what . . . what?" becomes a common phrase.
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well I was prepared for this with earplugs, so my ears felt totally fine afterward. I didn't have the courage to take them out.
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I thought the show was awesome, one of those "dreams come true" concerts. I've been wanting to see MBV perform for 7-8 years now, and it didn't disappoint. Anyway, it was definitely worth the ~3 hour drive back and forth.
I listened to the whole concert with earplugs (my own, not the ones they gave out), and I experienced no hearing problems after the show. I didn't think it was too loud at all. I've been to some painfully loud shows over the years, and this wasn't one of them. Maybe it was because the loudness was mostly low frequency instead of high frequency.
I wouldn't say the sound was perfect by any means, however. It was a bit muddy from where I was (middle right, about a third of the way back from the stage). I would have liked more vocals in the mix, but it's MBV so that's just not to be expected.
"Realise" was amazing. It felt like I was taking a shower, only instead of water hitting me, it was sound and light. The air was electrified and the whole experience was intense. The air wrapped around me like a blanket and massaged me. I felt connected to everyone else in the audience. It was completely unlike anything I've ever experienced before. Just wow.
After the show, I saw Christine talking to some guy. I tried to say hi, but I was too shy to interrupt their conversation.
The drive home kind of sucked. Ran into road construction on 95 around exit 161 that delayed me about a half hour. I should've taken 301 home instead. I took 301 south to get to Richmond, and it was easy driving, though a few too many traffic lights in the more populated areas.
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man, either christine is a painfully beautiful slice of woman heaven . . . or there are sure a lot of shy guys on here.
:D
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Both, I'd say. But mostly I just don't like to interrupt people.
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they were much softer in richmond than at kutchers. never thought i'd say this, but i am ever so thankful for city decibel limits. they sounded perfect imo.
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Roseland was definitely louder than Richmond, too.
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After the show, I saw Christine talking to some guy. I tried to say hi, but I was too shy to interrupt their conversation.
Ahh... that was a friend of mine from Chapel Hill. I didn't know he was going to the show, but he'd seen me mention it on Facebook and texted me when he was there, so we met up briefly afterward.
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man, either christine is a painfully beautiful slice of woman heaven . . . or there are sure a lot of shy guys on here.
:D
Both, I'd say.
These posts have made my day.
;D
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Here are my vids for you Made Me Realize from the show. Broken up into two parts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpGcbfh3ljM&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAnRvB8hxSc&feature=channel_page
they were awesome at all points too!! However Tool fans were ruthless for booing them, telling them to turn up the mics, and giving them the finger. It was a shame :o
oh yeah I suggest you listen to it with headphones sounds nice ;D
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yeah its pretty "interesting" to read the youtube comments from peoples mbv videos from APW....lots of angry tool fans saying mbv are one of the worst bands ever and the like.
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i just watched a video of this infamous "holocaust" thing at the all points show. i've never really liked them or much listened to mbv before , but after watching that, i . . . am . . . in . . . total fucking love with that band. dear god and baby jesus, that is why music was invented!!!!
edit - one of the comments was "after it was over , i wound up in a fetal position." now that's music!
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one of the comments was "after it was over , i wound up in a fetal position." now that's music!
Or trauma. ;)
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Took video of Only Shallow - missed the open because they had a false start and I wasn't sure how long they'd take to get going:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFF_KS36Yhc
Photos:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/74188640@N00/sets/72157621909702286/
Blog:
http://playmixt.tumblr.com/post/153589059/mbv2009
Cheers,
Rupe
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I'm fiending for another go-round.
Give me the same setlist again; I don't care.
Seth?
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hope MBV don't come around again. if they do, azagh will start hating them.
just ask him about Dirty Projectors, Fleet Foxes, Raveonettes, and Animal Collective.
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I have no problems with AC.
The next time they come around, they'll have a whole new batch of material.
That MBV material is timeless, though.
And yes, FF and DP are one-trick ponies while the Raveonettes wish they were JAMC.
And your comparing the mighty MBV to buzzbands like DP and FF is heretical and if there was any justice, such a crime would have you paying by having your ears cut off.
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welp MBV finally played sometimes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7LjgExybKs
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This thread bump brought back some great memories. Thanks.
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http://www.kungfunation.com/artists/107-my-bloody-valentine
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awesome.
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This thread bump is making me re-live the fact that I missed out on this. Thanks again :'(
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From the Crooked Beat email:
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My Bloody Valentine - This Is Your Bloody Valentine LP
My Bloody Valentine - Things Left Behind LP