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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: azaghal1981 on August 06, 2009, 10:06:01 pm
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Here's this (http://www.freesofree.net/albumdetail.php?AlbumID=196&sid=c297c08d32e8848c9b3b4dfe2e0a3024)
Can't believe it's already been over four years.
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nice try azag . . . but that is the worst set i have ever fucking seen. j. even puts in the ear plugs when that comes on and dreams of the day when he can get away with nothing but songs from green mind, where you been, without a sound and hand it over.
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Sounds great to me so far.
The solos in The Lung and Forget the Swan are pure perfection.
P.S. Those albums may have 3-4 good songs between them.
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Sounds great to me so far.
The solos in The Lung and Forget the Swan are pure perfection.
P.S. Those albums may have 3-4 good songs between them.
::) ;D ::) ;)
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You were the only one on this board who didn't like this show if my memory serves me correctly.
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You were the only one on this board who didn't like this show if my memory serves me correctly.
call me strange, cause i bleed dinosaur jr, but those first three albums make we want to scream until my lungs cave in. the singing is god awful, the guitariness has not yet elevated into messiah pie, and the overall experience makes we want to listen to sebadoh . . . and nobody should have to listen to sebadoh.
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You don't like Sebadoh either?
Yeah, strange.
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You don't like Sebadoh either?
Yeah, strange.
i used to. even folk implosion. even sentridoh. i thought i had to, because of my devotion to dinosaur. then i realized, like the first three albums of dinosaur . . . it was all a waste of time. but i still have everything released, because again, i am strange.
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In walkie's defense, I'm pretty sure Joe was unimpressed as well. I'd be I still have some old emails to prove it.
In their offense, they're both way wrong.
You were the only one on this board who didn't like this show if my memory serves me correctly.
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This is the only guy on earth who thinks the first 3 dino records are garbage. I'm all for loving Green-WAS, but to hate the first 3? Holy shit.
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Hah...Joe.
Knowing him, he probably read a bad review on a blog somewhere and adopted it as his opinion.
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I wonder if the blogger wrote the review without actually seeing the show....
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This is the only guy on earth who thinks the first 3 dino records are garbage. I'm all for loving Green-WAS, but to hate the first 3? Holy shit.
This is like saying Emotional Rescue or Steel Wheels is better than Aftermath, 12x5 or Beggars Banquet. WTF Walkie?
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I wonder if the blogger wrote the review without actually seeing the show....
Subtle dig, but still awesome.
To be fair, since FreeFest was announced and the blinkidiots have made their way here, he hasn't been that annoying at all.
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Wasn't he banned?
I think that's why he's been so quiet.
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Wasn't he banned?
Nakatestes got banned? For what? Where was I? How quick does it take champagne to cool? (Last one was rhetorical: I actually know.)
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This would be a shocking development. First Juian's America, and then Rhett? What's next....A moratorium on sarcasm?
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It had something to do with a Michael Jackson rape joke soon after his death or so Joe told me.
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Wow. I remember his posts getting deleted about that, but I missed the banning. I could've sworn he's posted since then.
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His acct does still look active. Maybe his posting priveleges got suspended but he can still do the few other things a member can do?
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Not much to say really... I know at least Chaz saw the post, Sonik saw the post and unregistered in protest, warnings and deleting took place that day. Maybe the decision was heavy handed, but seeing as over 2000 people showed up that night to celebrate Jackson's music, it would be in very poor form to allow the continued postings of that nature on the forum.
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This is the only guy on earth who thinks the first 3 dino records are garbage. I'm all for loving Green-WAS, but to hate the first 3? Holy shit.
sorry, i take that back . . . the first two sucked (due to poor like quality compared to the rest). bug has its moments.
Not much to say really... I know at least Chaz saw the post, Sonik saw the post and unregistered in protest, warnings and deleting took place that day. Maybe the decision was heavy handed, but seeing as over 2000 people showed up that night to celebrate Jackson's music, it would be in very poor form to allow the continued postings of that nature on the forum.
actually, i saw them as well. and i posted two pictures going along with the joke, that were deleted as well as the jokes. then sonick yelled at charlie and i, called us names, then quit in protest. god . . . i love this place.
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FREE RHETT!
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This is the only guy on earth who thinks the first 3 dino records are garbage. I'm all for loving Green-WAS, but to hate the first 3? Holy shit.
sorry, i take that back . . . the first two sucked (due to poor like quality compared to the rest). bug has its moments.
Not much to say really... I know at least Chaz saw the post, Sonik saw the post and unregistered in protest, warnings and deleting took place that day. Maybe the decision was heavy handed, but seeing as over 2000 people showed up that night to celebrate Jackson's music, it would be in very poor form to allow the continued postings of that nature on the forum.
actually, i saw them as well. and i posted two pictures going along with the joke, that were deleted as well as the jokes. then sonick yelled at charlie and i, called us names, then quit in protest. god . . . i love this place.
he's probably still around lurking :o
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FREE RHETT!
Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Let's not get ridiculous.
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Not much to say really... I know at least Chaz saw the post, Sonik saw the post and unregistered in protest, warnings and deleting took place that day. Maybe the decision was heavy handed, but seeing as over 2000 people showed up that night to celebrate Jackson's music, it would be in very poor form to allow the continued postings of that nature on the forum.
he's really banned for one post in poor taste? seems pretty harsh
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he's really banned for one post in poor taste? seems pretty harsh
Complaining about Nakatestes getting banned for this is sort of like complaining that Al Capone's tax-evasion charges were specious.
His entire tenure was trolling and flame-baiting and trying to get a rise out of people. Just because the final nail in the coffin was ticky-tack doesn't warrant complaint.
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Thatguy backed me up, it wasn't the first time he was on thin ice
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flame-baiting and trying to get a rise out of people
I'm just grateful that he was the only boardie that participated in this kind of cruel and intolerable behavior.
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wow, Rhett skirted the line sooo much over the years its kind of hard to believe he actually got banned.....
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he's really banned for one post in poor taste? seems pretty harsh
Complaining about Nakatestes getting banned for this is sort of like complaining that Al Capone's tax-evasion charges were specious.
His entire tenure was trolling and flame-baiting and trying to get a rise out of people. Just because the final nail in the coffin was ticky-tack doesn't warrant complaint.
Oh look who speaks.. Mr. Nice guy.. He poster of such great wisdom as:
"Sweet Jesus, go use to a mirror to find your penis, sever it with a spoon, then choke on it, k?"
Go fuck yourself asshole.
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wow, Rhett skirted the line sooo much over the years its kind of hard to believe he actually got banned.....
but he never seemed psychotic, like certain people who have been banned on here
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Go fuck yourself asshole.
And here I thought the scourge of negative energy on this board had been dealt with.
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he's really banned for one post in poor taste? seems pretty harsh
Complaining about Nakatestes getting banned for this is sort of like complaining that Al Capone's tax-evasion charges were specious.
His entire tenure was trolling and flame-baiting and trying to get a rise out of people. Just because the final nail in the coffin was ticky-tack doesn't warrant complaint.
Oh look who speaks.. Mr. Nice guy.. He poster of such great wisdom as:
"Sweet Jesus, go use to a mirror to find your penis, sever it with a spoon, then choke on it, k?"
Go fuck yourself asshole.
The difference between Rhett and myself is that Rhett will take a certain position SIMPLY to be contrarian and piss off the maximum number of people possible, regardless of his actual feelings on whatever the issue is. I, on the other hand, ardently defend my actual beliefs whether they happen to be the minority opinion (as is rarely the case) or they solicit high-fives from the overwhelming majority of boardies, which is the usual outcome since I'm pretty much the voice of a generation.
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That's a buzzkill. I figured he was just busy or something. Those are the breaks when a forum is linked to a business, I guess. Still, while I missed his post, I can't believe it would be worse than other people we have around here.
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bummer
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i assumed that charlie wasn't posting here because he, you know, got a life. banning makes much more sense.
charlie got a life... as if. can't believe i actually thought that!
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Rhett had like 15,000 posts or something. He was very prolific.
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agreed, I actually became quite fond of him, much as you learn to appreciate a curmudgeonly relative
wow, Rhett skirted the line sooo much over the years its kind of hard to believe he actually got banned.....
but he never seemed psychotic, like certain people who have been banned on here
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rhett was a dick, but he mostly made fun of people's taste in music and, often, deservedly so. yeah it was a bit much sometimes but he rarely resorted to personal attacks. and he got banned for making a MICHAEL JACKSON JOKE. think about that. but whatever.
somebody warn the robbie fulks message board....
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rhett was a favorite of mine. i found his schtick funny
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So yeah...
That last Dinosaur show at the club was very solid.
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So yeah...
That last Dinosaur show at the club was very solid.
:D
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Thatguy backed me up, it wasn't the first time he was on thin ice
the last drop of water is not what broke the dam.
not open for debate. discuss all you want, but the decision stands.
lesson to be learned from this: if a moderator gives you a chance and warns you about something, take the hint. over the years, the ice has been thin under several regular posters. i usually put up a sign of some sort before it breaks.
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Thatguy backed me up, it wasn't the first time he was on thin ice
the last drop of water is not what broke the dam.
not open for debate. discuss all you want, but the decision stands.
lesson to be learned from this: if a moderator gives you a chance and warns you about something, take the hint. over the years, the ice has been thin under several regular posters. i usually put up a sign of some sort before it breaks.
i wonder who is treading on the thinnest side of the frozen lake now . . . julian or myself??
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i wonder who is treading on the thinnest side of the frozen lake now . . . julian or myself??
i put up a BIG sign recently.
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If it were up to me, the blasphemy you've committed in this thread would've done you in.
Thatguy backed me up, it wasn't the first time he was on thin ice
the last drop of water is not what broke the dam.
not open for debate. discuss all you want, but the decision stands.
lesson to be learned from this: if a moderator gives you a chance and warns you about something, take the hint. over the years, the ice has been thin under several regular posters. i usually put up a sign of some sort before it breaks.
i wonder who is treading on the thinnest side of the frozen lake now . . . julian or myself??
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If it were up to me, the blasphemy you've committed in this thread would've done you in.
Thatguy backed me up, it wasn't the first time he was on thin ice
the last drop of water is not what broke the dam.
not open for debate. discuss all you want, but the decision stands.
lesson to be learned from this: if a moderator gives you a chance and warns you about something, take the hint. over the years, the ice has been thin under several regular posters. i usually put up a sign of some sort before it breaks.
i wonder who is treading on the thinnest side of the frozen lake now . . . julian or myself??
seen enough to eye you . . . . .
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i wonder who is treading on the thinnest side of the frozen lake now . . . julian or myself??
i put up a BIG sign recently.
I'm going to assume that is in reference to me.
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not open for debate. discuss all you want, but the decision stands.
Debate it? If I could figure out you or kosmo's mailing addresses, you'd both have some single malt headed your way. This is the best thing either of you have ever done on here; anyone who'd dare debate your greatness on this banning will have hell, highwater, and Julian to mess with!
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Debate it? If I could figure out you or kosmo's mailing addresses, you'd both have some single malt headed your way. This is the best thing either of you have ever done on here; anyone who'd dare debate your greatness on this banning will have hell, highwater, and Julian to mess with!
Julian - Check your PMs for Kosmo and thatguy's mailing addresses.
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I didn't get anything, chaz. Can you resend?
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all of this, this whole thing, all of it, leaves me with a funny feeling
kind of like sliding down a bannister while being observed by a poor family I've never met. there's pleasure involved, all signs point to bliss, but a dank sourness hangs over it. I will spend time with my thoughts, reflecting. first point of action: a new metaphor!
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I didn't get anything, chaz. Can you resend?
Please check your Internet connection.
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I didn't get anything, chaz. Can you resend?
I'm pretty sure anything addressed to
c/o 9.30 Club
9th and V Sts NW
Washington DC 20001
would get to the right people
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Yes, I'm going to FedEx a package with ALCOHOL stickers to...
ThatGuy
c/o 9:30 Club
9th and V Sts NW (not the actual numerical address, just the intersection)
WDC 20001
...and assume it'll all work out alright. Sure! Perhaps if I had their last names....
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if this is a serious offer, why not contact them via PM?
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somehow, i feel that thatguy (how funny it sounds to say "that thatguy") does not drink alcohol.
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if this is a serious offer, why not contact them via PM?
Both of them are clearly reading this thread, they can PM me if they want it.
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Having moved from Richmond to the DC area in the past few years, and being a big fan of the single malt..
I'd highly recommend buying it up here (significantly cheaper) and possibly just making the delivery in person.
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Wait. Rhett's gone? Again? I didn't even notice....
But I sure noticed when Celeste was gone....
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everyone knows you can't make michael jackson rape jokes . . .its 'alleged' rape
but in any case, that's far less offensive than saying you don't care for you're living all over me
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That would've been bad enough but to go further and say Hand it Over is better is criminal.
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I love me some Dino Jr. I have every album, every J album, every Fog album. It's one of my 3 favorite bands. I've seen J. easily 20 times --- and for someone to defend Hand It Over on its own is dangerously asinine. To say it's better then YLAOM?? Certifiably crazy material.
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delusions of grandeur, guys....delusions...or at least that's how this comes off
Thatguy backed me up, it wasn't the first time he was on thin ice
the last drop of water is not what broke the dam.
not open for debate. discuss all you want, but the decision stands.
lesson to be learned from this: if a moderator gives you a chance and warns you about something, take the hint. over the years, the ice has been thin under several regular posters. i usually put up a sign of some sort before it breaks.
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if this is a serious offer, why not contact them via PM?
Both of them are clearly reading this thread, they can PM me if they want it.
Very kind offer, but neither Kosmette or I are big single malt drinkers. Feel free to increase a charitable donation instead.
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If you'd like to list a charity, I'll throw $100 its way. If not, my default is always National Hopeline Network.
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The whole 90's Seattle grunge thing may not have happened were it not for those first three albums...and Sonic Youth.
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The whole 90's Seattle grunge thing may not have happened were it not for those first three albums...and Sonic Youth.
yet another reason to burn the first two albums.
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The whole 90's Seattle grunge thing may not have happened were it not for those first three albums.
As someone who has always hated Grunge, you have only managed to add fuel to my contempt!
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Agree with Jaguar.. a world without grunge would have been a better world.
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a cat in flannel would be classic ;D
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a cat in flannel would be classic ;D
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_HhUjJ73jZso/ScaoSFHFWdI/AAAAAAAAMAY/wgIgfJak7Hw/s400/plaid+shirt2.jpg)
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haha thats great ;D
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Agree with Jaguar.. a world without grunge would have been a better world.
i disagree... Grunge sidelined lots of hair metal bands in it's rise
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The worst excesses of the grunge movement were far better than the worst excesses of the hair metal that proceeded it and the nu-metal/rap-rock of the early 2000's. There were also a lot of really great grunge records.
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If you'd like to list a charity, I'll throw $100 its way. If not, my default is always National Hopeline Network.
Works for me....
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Well of course its misleading to refer to what came before grunge as "hair metal"! Come on!
Thats not serious!
There was plenty of music before Nirvana broke that was not "hair metal" and unfortunately a lot of this music was thrown out with the Slaughters of the world....
Also if we call what came before "hair metal" why not call grunge "flannel heroin sludge": they are equally accurate in describing the MUSIC... actually "hair metal" is far less accurate..
There are some great grunge records for sure but overall its so boring and more importantly NOT FUN!
I think modern music is still paying for this "grunge revolution"...
The end of the guitar solo, the end of showmanship, the end of fun in rock and roll.. the end of lyrics about sex drugs and rock and roll basically is what grunge almost accomplished..I say almost because its all going to come back.. Look at the Creed show at Nissan. .They can't give the tickets away!
When you look back at what rock and roll is all about- Chuck Berry and his heirs (Stones, Flamin Groovies, ACDC)- and you compare it to grunge and nu-metal (puke) its hard not to develop an intense dislike for these..
Of course all the above probably should be tempered a few notches... There were good grunge bands. .there were grunge bands that did incorporate solos and even the ocassional smile.. but as a music movement I think grunge left us with awfully little....Not to mention that, yes, maybe MTV's decision to play "Smells Like Teen Spirit" 24-7 and never again play any videos by the very same bands they had played in the previous 5 years ad infinitum did kill "hair metal" but so what? To assume it would not or could not have been killed off by something more fun anyways seems silly to me. Lets remember that Nirvana was one of many indie bands being signed to the majors...There was plenty of great music being recorded in 89-91 that I think could have made things far more interesting than Nirvana and grunge...I think if Kurt was around today he would have been the first to admit it... heck he probably would have admitted it even before he took his life.
I mean lets call it what it is: the death of "hair metal" was a business and marketing decision... the same kids who were told that Motley Crue/Poison were cool were now told "hey kids, they're no longer cool go buy these other bands".. thats all it was!
Anyways its just an opinion... if other people like grunge then good for them...Personally I like having a good time and enjoying my life.. I think of rock and roll as a party...a celebration.. and grunge has nothing to do with that.. Do I like "unskinny bop"? Of course not...that song is garbage but you can't pick the worst stuff and say that everything that came before grunge was "unskinny bop"!
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The worst excesses of the grunge movement were far better than the worst excesses of the hair metal that proceeded it and the nu-metal/rap-rock of the early 2000's. There were also a lot of really great grunge records.
This.
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wow some people really need to lighten up....
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Well of course its misleading to refer to what came before grunge as "hair metal"! Come on!
Thats not serious!
There was plenty of music before Nirvana broke that was not "hair metal" and unfortunately a lot of this music was thrown out with the Slaughters of the world....
Also if we call what came before "hair metal" why not call grunge "flannel heroin sludge": they are equally accurate in describing the MUSIC... actually "hair metal" is far less accurate..
There are some great grunge records for sure but overall its so boring and more importantly NOT FUN!
I think modern music is still paying for this "grunge revolution"...
The end of the guitar solo, the end of showmanship, the end of fun in rock and roll.. the end of lyrics about sex drugs and rock and roll basically is what grunge almost accomplished..I say almost because its all going to come back.. Look at the Creed show at Nissan. .They can't give the tickets away!
When you look back at what rock and roll is all about- Chuck Berry and his heirs (Stones, Flamin Groovies, ACDC)- and you compare it to grunge and nu-metal (puke) its hard not to develop an intense dislike for these..
Of course all the above probably should be tempered a few notches... There were good grunge bands. .there were grunge bands that did incorporate solos and even the ocassional smile.. but as a music movement I think grunge left us with awfully little....Not to mention that, yes, maybe MTV's decision to play "Smells Like Teen Spirit" 24-7 and never again play any videos by the very same bands they had played in the previous 5 years ad infinitum did kill "hair metal" but so what? To assume it would not or could not have been killed off by something more fun anyways seems silly to me. Lets remember that Nirvana was one of many indie bands being signed to the majors...There was plenty of great music being recorded in 89-91 that I think could have made things far more interesting than Nirvana and grunge...I think if Kurt was around today he would have been the first to admit it... heck he probably would have admitted it even before he took his life.
I mean lets call it what it is: the death of "hair metal" was a business and marketing decision... the same kids who were told that Motley Crue/Poison were cool were now told "hey kids, they're no longer cool go buy these other bands".. thats all it was!
Anyways its just an opinion... if other people like grunge then good for them...Personally I like having a good time and enjoying my life.. I think of rock and roll as a party...a celebration.. and grunge has nothing to do with that.. Do I like "unskinny bop"? Of course not...that song is garbage but you can't pick the worst stuff and say that everything that came before grunge was "unskinny bop"!
Damn...
All I'll say is that Kurt Cobain never hesitated to give props to the bands he liked/admired that didn't make it big. He brought the fucking Meat Puppets on MTV Unplugged, for Christ's sake. Speaking of, that is a wonderful performance.
I'll also agree that there are numerous great grunge records.
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Regarding grunge (which is kind of as derogatory a term as hair metal really), and most music scenes, Warren Buffet's 3 I's of business apply . . . first you have innovators, then imitators, then idiots.
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Well of course its misleading to refer to what came before grunge as "hair metal"! Come on!
Thats not serious!
There was plenty of music before Nirvana broke that was not "hair metal" and unfortunately a lot of this music was thrown out with the Slaughters of the world....
Also if we call what came before "hair metal" why not call grunge "flannel heroin sludge": they are equally accurate in describing the MUSIC... actually "hair metal" is far less accurate..
There are some great grunge records for sure but overall its so boring and more importantly NOT FUN!
I think modern music is still paying for this "grunge revolution"...
The end of the guitar solo, the end of showmanship, the end of fun in rock and roll.. the end of lyrics about sex drugs and rock and roll basically is what grunge almost accomplished..I say almost because its all going to come back.. Look at the Creed show at Nissan. .They can't give the tickets away!
When you look back at what rock and roll is all about- Chuck Berry and his heirs (Stones, Flamin Groovies, ACDC)- and you compare it to grunge and nu-metal (puke) its hard not to develop an intense dislike for these..
Of course all the above probably should be tempered a few notches... There were good grunge bands. .there were grunge bands that did incorporate solos and even the ocassional smile.. but as a music movement I think grunge left us with awfully little....Not to mention that, yes, maybe MTV's decision to play "Smells Like Teen Spirit" 24-7 and never again play any videos by the very same bands they had played in the previous 5 years ad infinitum did kill "hair metal" but so what? To assume it would not or could not have been killed off by something more fun anyways seems silly to me. Lets remember that Nirvana was one of many indie bands being signed to the majors...There was plenty of great music being recorded in 89-91 that I think could have made things far more interesting than Nirvana and grunge...I think if Kurt was around today he would have been the first to admit it... heck he probably would have admitted it even before he took his life.
I mean lets call it what it is: the death of "hair metal" was a business and marketing decision... the same kids who were told that Motley Crue/Poison were cool were now told "hey kids, they're no longer cool go buy these other bands".. thats all it was!
Anyways its just an opinion... if other people like grunge then good for them...Personally I like having a good time and enjoying my life.. I think of rock and roll as a party...a celebration.. and grunge has nothing to do with that.. Do I like "unskinny bop"? Of course not...that song is garbage but you can't pick the worst stuff and say that everything that came before grunge was "unskinny bop"!
tl; piai; dr
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Grunge is a stupid label. But there were some great great bands to come from that scene...Mudhoney, The Fluid, Nirvana, the Melvins, Screaming Trees. Of course these bands paved the way for the Nickelbacks, Creeds and 3 Doors Downs of today. It's the way of the world kids.
And Hutch your dissertation is stupid. I'll take real over a smile or "fun" any day of the week. Sincerity is what's important, whatever the message being conveyed is.
If there's one thing in the world that pisses me it's a bunch of pollyannas telling me I should be having good time, cuz you know, life ain't all pony rides and puppy dogs.
To me life and the world are equally beautiful and fucked, equally triumphant and tragic.
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Personally, other than some Nirvana, I can't think of a single Grunge band that I've ever liked. Ugh!
Also, Hair Metal existed way before Grunge so I don't see any relationship between the two at all. Eventually, some merged Grunge and Hair Metal but blending eventually happens between all genres.
Plus, it sure doesn't help that Grunge pre-empted the Shoegaze movement which, that and Psychedelic are my all time favorite genres. Thank God for resurgances!!! Just please keep all Grunge out of my ears! Hair Metal too!
Chaz, I fully agree with you regarding music with mixed ideas. Can't stand having all of my music full of flowers and candy. Bring on Spiritualized's fucked up Johnny and Lupine Howl's cold turkey puke along with older Punk's pissy angst.
Excuse me while I switch channels.
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I saw a couple grunge retrospectives where they had some of fading fast hair metal bands moaning on about when grunge came along their careers stalled... and to be fair Nirvana weren't really a grunge band, sure they had the flannel and were from Washington, but they had different musically influences, i.e. Pixies, Killing Joke, etc.
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Kosmo, I want to apologize. I miss-read your earlier post.
Grunge was so powerful in the Rock world that I think it stopped everything else in it's tracks, both good and bad. Of course, it all boils down to your own personal likes and dislikes but it sure hurt my musical ears for a loooong time.
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The end of the guitar solo, the end of showmanship, the end of fun in rock and roll..
Spin. Doctors. Grunge was definitely fun! Just look at them smiling, soloing, and having fun on Letterman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAlQ1cR6X9Q&feature=related
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piai
Primary Immunodeficiency Association of Ireland? postoperative intra-abdominal infection? Perish in an Inferno?
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poster is an idiot
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piai
Primary Immunodeficiency Association of Ireland? postoperative intra-abdominal infection? Perish in an Inferno?
yours was better way better, sweet . . . sorry, julian. you know, this thread is the epitome of why i still enjoi this forum. first it begins as a kind offering of a show, in which i rip apart with my bashful comments of a horrible setlist which spirals into us two bickbackering between blips of why dinosuar should or should not of had those wastes of master tapes called the two first albums. then the debacle of those mighty ones of many posts who have fallen off the board, then others joining into the mix to discuss the scene of those past monkeys hurling shit and calling it grunge music and what it did it to warrant/kix/poison/guns-n-roses/etc..., which finally has morphed into where it is now. good job gang, you deserves kudos and cat treats all around!
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You forgot to mention the part where everyone except Jaguar told you how wrong and crazy you are for dissing the first two albums.
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You forgot to mention the part where everyone except Jaguar told you how wrong and crazy you are for dissing the first two albums.
touché cat is too lazy to go find a picture.
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I'm ok with people saying Dinosaur isn't all that great. It's a classic, early-band album where they show some promise and but it comes across as very uneven. I would even put some of the later albums ahead of it, particularly Green Mind. It's the dislike for YLAOM that specifically scares the shit outta me.
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I'm ok with people saying Dinosaur isn't all that great. It's a classic, early-band album where they show some promise and but it comes across as very uneven. I would even put some of the later albums ahead of it, particularly Green Mind. It's the dislike for YLAOM that specifically scares the shit outta me.
one good song, in a jar, tops. the mere awesome power of it coming from show amps is like bill o'reily screaming "do it live!". and the bonus, just like heaven, show me the way covers ain't what all the kids think their cracked up to be (meaning, they're crap). plus poledo scars the disk with the mere presence of itself. j. knew it was time to take over the controls of the band when that song grated the grinder of a scene that would be generating grunge. the cover explains it all. "this music is making a man attempt to escape my head as i listen to this album."
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ylaom is one of my top 5 favorite albums ever. such crazy talk
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It is truly a monster of an album. J.'s playing on that album is just fucking epic.
Question: I've owned a few editions of this album, some ending with "Just Like Heaven" and one that ended with and awsome deconstruction of Peter Frampton's "Show me the Way". What is the story with this? I'm pretty sure the frampton version came first cuz I had the SST version of the album shortly after it came out but have always wondered about this.
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It is truly a monster of an album. J.'s playing on that album is just fucking epic.
Question: I've owned a few editions of this album, some ending with "Just Like Heaven" and one that ended with and awsome deconstruction of Peter Frampton's "Show me the Way". What is the story with this? I'm pretty sure the frampton version came first cuz I had the SST version of the album shortly after it came out but have always wondered about this.
source, wiki:
Dinosaur recorded much of their second album You're Living All Over Me with Sonic Youth engineer Wharton Tiers in New York. During the recording process, tension emerged between Mascis and Murph because Mascis had very specific ideas for the drum parts. Barlow recalled, "J controlled Murph's every drumbeat...And Murph could not handle that. Murph wanted to kill J for the longest time."[8] Gerard Cosloy was excited by the completed album, but was devastated when Mascis told him the band was going to release it on SST Records. Mascis was reluctant to sign a two-album deal with Homestead, but Cosloy felt betrayed; Cosloy said, "There was no way I couldn't take it personally."[9] After the album's completion Mascis moved to New York, leaving the rest of the band feeling alienated.[10]
(you see . . . this album ruined the band).
from wiki, as well:
The album was originally issued when the band were still known as Dinosaur, before a lawsuit forced the name change to Dinosaur Jr. The album was recalled by SST a few months after release, and new copies were printed crediting the band as Dinosaur Jr.
10. "Show Me the Way" (Bonus track on SST CD version) Peter Frampton 3:45
11. "Just Like Heaven" (Bonus track on 2005 Merge Records reissue & 2005 Imperial Records reissue) The Cure 2:53
12. "Throw Down" (Bonus tracks on 2005 Imperial Records reissue)
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if the band was ruined, wouldnt that mean every thing after ylaom was bad
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Loveless "ruined" MBV and that album couldn't possibly be more perfect. Sorry Walkies, you're not going to win this argument.
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(you see . . . this album ruined the band).
what I see is J's being a passive aggressive douchebag is what ruined the band.
and yet, without J, no band.
I'm not sure what to do with this conundrum
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Loveless "ruined" MBV and that album couldn't possibly be more perfect. Sorry Walkies, you're not going to win this argument.
i sort of realized this long ago. ;D
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Just for you, Walkies:
They played "Thumb" and "Get Me" at this (http://www.freesofree.net/albumdetail.php?AlbumID=462&sid=35f3b63fbf9feaa268c5e419b5b50c3f) recent show.
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Just for you, Walkies:
They played "Thumb" and "Get Me" at this (http://www.freesofree.net/albumdetail.php?AlbumID=462&sid=35f3b63fbf9feaa268c5e419b5b50c3f) recent show.
you just made me horny. (sorry . . . yes, i had to say it like that).
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(http://i35.tinypic.com/rhvpqd.jpg)
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Dinosaur Jr. asked us to do another poster for their stop off in DC. They wanted something to represent how loud the shows are so we portrayed someone drowning in noise. These will be at the show and available through us on October 9th. Two versions available.
http://www.eljefedesign.com/posters/dino09.html (http://www.eljefedesign.com/posters/dino09.html)