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Title: loudest show at the club?
Post by: sweetcell on July 19, 2010, 10:45:23 pm
loudest show i've experienced at the 930: iggy and the stooges.  runners-up: LCDSS.

et tu?
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Post by: azaghal1981 on July 19, 2010, 10:55:17 pm
Dinosaur Jr.
Black Pus
The most recent Mogwai show

That last BRMC show was unnecessarily loud and muddy.
I do remember the hi's being uncomfortably loud at that LCDSS show.
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Post by: sweetcell on July 19, 2010, 11:12:38 pm
Dinosaur Jr.

which time?  or every time?

and indeed, the highs were slicing my head off at the LCD show.  really distorted and piercing.
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Post by: ggw on July 19, 2010, 11:20:23 pm
Dead Meadow opening for Fugazi many years back. It was awesome.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on July 19, 2010, 11:35:03 pm
I've only caught them at the club once (09).

The 2nd Black Pus set there when he opened for ratatat was the funniest loud show experience. The front row consisted of myself (wanted a good spot for Black Pus) and HS kids probably at their first show. Needless to say, they were not equipped with the proper ear protection. Chippendale comes out and hits something that causes some of the highest shards of feedback I ever heard to ring out throughout the room. I turned to one of the kids and said "oh yeah...you may have wanted to bring earplugs." Chippendale then proceeds to do irreparable damage to their hearing for 30 minutes almost non-stop. As agonizing as it must have been, they did stand there and take it.

That Ratatat set was unnecessarily loud as well. And it sucked. I think I left 15 minutes in.
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Post by: Justin Tonation on July 19, 2010, 11:56:45 pm
loudest show i've experienced at the 930: iggy and the stooges.  runners-up: LCDSS.

et tu?

I was at both. LCDSS louder. But Dream Syndicate (@ F St.) loudest.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on July 20, 2010, 12:19:38 am
The first Animal Collective show at the club was piercing.

I can still hear those "Peace Bone" shrieks now.
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Post by: serpent boy on July 20, 2010, 12:26:24 am
That last BRMC show was unnecessarily loud and muddy.

Seconded. I haven't been to enough shows at the club to compare, but BRMC's recent show in April was fucking loud. I've only felt ear pain during three shows in my life, and this was one of them (others: Iron Maiden at MPP standing next to the speakers in the pit; Pantera in Hampton, VA in 1998).
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Post by: chancegardener on July 20, 2010, 12:37:52 am
Placebo ... maybe 8 years ago or so. It was a cheap show, as I recall. I could handle only about 3 songs.
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Post by: Vas Deferens on July 20, 2010, 01:50:32 am
Twilight Sad (opening for Mono) were unnecessarily loud you couldn't make out the songs they were playing.

The loudest show I've enjoyed was the last Mogwai show.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on July 20, 2010, 04:31:33 am
That Twilight Sad set was a mess.


Possibly the ugliest thing I've ever heard come out of the club's PA.
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 20, 2010, 07:04:54 am
I find a lot of "IT" brit bands to be un-necessarily loud,  Cooper Temple Clause was one of the most painful...
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Post by: lagas on July 20, 2010, 07:36:38 am
melvins this year, that was evil
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Post by: nkotb on July 20, 2010, 08:04:03 am
Iggy's last solo show at the club was brutal in the best way possible.  I remember being afraid for my hearing the drummer sat at his kit and hit the kick drum once.  And that JSBX show when the new club first opened was insane too.  I remember calling a friend three days later to make sure I wasn't the only one with ringing ears.

I still don't think i've ever experienced anything like Mogwai at the Ottobar, though.  It was like that Memorex ad.
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Post by: Sir HC on July 20, 2010, 08:38:52 am
Hmmm, several:

Garbage.  The guy was mixing from a semi in the parking lot.  Not even in the same room.  I was there the second night and it was too loud, but I was told it was quieter than night one.

Love and Rockets, forget which tour (maybe Hot Trip to Heaven).  When they would hit a bass note, all other sounds were just "lost", nothing else got through.

Then there was the Prodigy:

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/c-martin/th_SSPX0284.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/c-martin/?action=view&current=SSPX0284.flv)
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Post by: K8teebug on July 20, 2010, 08:50:31 am
Fugazi
Mogwai
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Post by: azaghal1981 on July 20, 2010, 08:52:29 am
I was in the 2nd row during the Melvins and found that pretty tame.

And yeah, Prodigy had unnecessary volume. And I forgot my earplugs.
Spent most of that night in the backbar.
Title: Re: loudest show at the club?
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 20, 2010, 08:54:17 am
A friend tried to tape that Mogwai Ottobar show and told me that it came out as one long block of distortion. He's got great mics that can withstand just about anything, too.
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Post by: Mr.Whippy on July 20, 2010, 09:13:26 am
I'd have to go with BRMC in April '10 and Iggy and the Stooges in April '07.  Something about April?
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Post by: bearman🐻 on July 20, 2010, 09:34:11 am
At the old club I saw Helmet and Jawbox...that was insanely loud. Believe it or not, Oasis' volume at the old club show was pretty insane too. They had so many amps on stage that you couldn't see Tony McCarroll behind the drum kit. If you were near the stage, you were blasted away.

At the new club, I'd say the loudest shows have been the Prodigy (even in 1998 the volume and bass was just insane), Ministry in '04 (my ears were slightly ringing the next day even WITH ear plugs in).

I've seen loads of other shows that were beyond loud (Sugar, Dinosaur Jr., Beastie Boys w/L7 come to mind), just not at the club.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on July 20, 2010, 09:40:47 am
I wonder how MBV at the club in '92 compared to the volume on their last tour.
Anyone?
Title: Re: loudest show at the club?
Post by: bearman🐻 on July 20, 2010, 09:48:29 am
I wonder how MBV at the club in '92 compared to the volume on their last tour.
Anyone?


From what I understand, the volume intensity was pretty comparable, the thing was the sound system they used on the last tour provided cleaner low end and less shrill highs. So in a sense, just a more balance, better-sounding show but still with the rocket fuel-punch.
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Post by: Brian_Wallace on July 20, 2010, 10:10:19 am

I never understood the preoccupation with volume.  It's like a macho thing.  HOW MUCH CAN YOU TAKE?!?!?  There's nothing sadder than a deaf thirty year-old.

It's seems like the bands are overcompensating for two things:  1.) The obvious.  2.) The band not being that good.  And, YES, I'm including Iggy and the Stooges and LCD in that group.   That reissue of "Raw Power" is quite possibly the shittiest sounding CD I've ever heard.   

Brian
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Post by: eltee on July 20, 2010, 10:11:07 am
I can't remember all right now, but I swear they used to be louder before the year 2000. ;)
I do remember most of you commented on the last BRMC (already mentioned) and for others, the last Twilight Singers' show (plus the smokiest I also heard; before the club when to non)
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Post by: eros on July 20, 2010, 10:26:22 am
Prodigy in 1998.  I just remember feeling my clothes vibrating on me.

IIRC, it was also the same night the Caps got swept in the Stanley Cup finals.
Title: Re: loudest show at the club?
Post by: Shadrach on July 20, 2010, 10:37:43 am
And the winner is: Motörhead (in a landslide of brain melting, ear splitting thunder)
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Post by: killsaly on July 20, 2010, 03:03:01 pm
My loudest show at the club was the most recent Prodigy gig.  Even with my -25db earplugs and being in the back of the club, it was pretty brutal.
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Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on July 20, 2010, 03:19:34 pm
For me personally it was definintely The Raconteurs. I went both nights last time they came and the first night was SO loud, i walked and realized how loud it was because everrryyything was so muffled. The 2nd night wasn't as bad until Jack played his screechy guitar, but that could have been because my ears were pulvarized the night before.
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Post by: wml7 on July 20, 2010, 03:27:52 pm
My loudest show at the club was the most recent Prodigy gig.  Even with my -25db earplugs and being in the back of the club, it was pretty brutal.

That too is my loudest.  I haven't been to a lot of shows at the club that were ear shattering to compare to but The Prodigy were pretty loud  ;D
Title: Re: loudest show at the club?
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 20, 2010, 03:44:23 pm
Predicting that Boris will rank up there.
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Post by: nkotb on July 20, 2010, 03:47:44 pm
Shit...you just reminded me that I have to miss them...again.  I swear, some bands I'm just never meant to catch live.  Thankfully I managed that Ottobar show a few years back, but still...they've been around half a dozen times since then it seems, and I've missed every single one.

Predicting that Boris will rank up there.

Title: Re: loudest show at the club?
Post by: Sir HC on July 20, 2010, 03:55:52 pm

I never understood the preoccupation with volume.  It's like a macho thing.  HOW MUCH CAN YOU TAKE?!?!?  There's nothing sadder than a deaf thirty year-old.

It's seems like the bands are overcompensating for two things:  1.) The obvious.  2.) The band not being that good.  And, YES, I'm including Iggy and the Stooges and LCD in that group.   That reissue of "Raw Power" is quite possibly the shittiest sounding CD I've ever heard.   

Brian

Different ways to look at it, J Mascis said it was as a drummer to try and get that visceral feel of drumming in guitar.  Others it is just deafness, others sadism (when the engineer wears ear protection, that is just wrong), some it is just to get over the stage volume.

Also it is just fun to do once in a while.
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Post by: wml7 on July 20, 2010, 04:05:05 pm
This wasn't at the club but the MBV in Richmond was amazing.  My ears rang for days and in a good way since it was so awesome  ;D  I saw them again at All Points West a few days later, but the show at the National was tops.
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Post by: radley17 on July 20, 2010, 04:18:40 pm
old club - Husker Du
new club- another vote for Motorhead
not at the club-Chemical Bros.
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Post by: walkonby on July 20, 2010, 06:47:03 pm
when brian comes out of retirement . . . he really comes . . . a lot.  impressive.
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Post by: RatBastard on July 20, 2010, 10:03:36 pm
Huh?
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Post by: wml7 on July 20, 2010, 10:14:39 pm
Oh walky is just being walky  ;D
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Post by: atomicfront on July 20, 2010, 11:01:54 pm
whatever band opened for Jesus and Mary Chain back in 1985.  They used saws on their guitars and they had ear plugs on.  They were filming the audiences reaction.  Seems like it was just a bunch of local guys who decided to annoy the audience. 
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Post by: smittyhines on July 21, 2010, 03:01:16 am
motorhead
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Post by: MindCage on July 21, 2010, 08:46:06 am
And the winner is: Motörhead (in a landslide of brain melting, ear splitting thunder)

This was the same year as a very loud Ministry Show, actually the following night!
Title: Re: loudest show at the club?
Post by: MindCage on July 21, 2010, 08:47:27 am
melvins this year, that was evil

Seriously? If anything, I thought it was too quiet.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on July 21, 2010, 08:49:40 am
^And the crowd was fucking lame.
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Post by: smakawhat on July 22, 2010, 12:25:44 am
Ministry...  hell they are just the loudest band no matter where they friggin play...
Title: Re: loudest show at the club?
Post by: smakawhat on July 22, 2010, 12:27:36 am
Predicting that Boris will rank up there.


Can't wait for that show...
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Post by: RatBastard on July 22, 2010, 07:36:45 am
I cannot believe no one has mentioned The Deftones
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Post by: Shadrach on July 22, 2010, 09:56:49 am
There was nothing alarmingly loud about them when they played here.

I cannot believe no one has mentioned The Deftones
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Post by: Sir HC on July 22, 2010, 11:08:02 am
Years back Hatebreed played on Easter sunday.  They had The Crystal Method's engineer mixing them.  I mixed the first three bands, and I thought it was loud.  He came and showed me a whole new level of loud, even with tired ears and ear plugs, he was hurting me.
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Post by: nkotb on July 22, 2010, 11:11:16 am
Hatebreed or Hatebeak?  Cuz that parrot can shred!

Years back Hatebreed played on Easter sunday.  They had The Crystal Method's engineer mixing them.  I mixed the first three bands, and I thought it was loud.  He came and showed me a whole new level of loud, even with tired ears and ear plugs, he was hurting me.
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Post by: serpent boy on July 22, 2010, 12:21:04 pm
I cannot believe no one has mentioned The Deftones

I've seen them a half dozen times. Five (98-04) were not too loud; the other (2000) was punishing. Of course their shows are hit-or-miss as well.
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Post by: Bags on July 22, 2010, 01:26:57 pm
Buzzcocks at the old club.
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Post by: RatBastard on July 23, 2010, 05:41:31 am
There was nothing alarmingly loud about them when they played here.

I cannot believe no one has mentioned The Deftones

Maybe the loud show I attended of theirs was at the Norva.  At my age and all the chemical experimentation I did in the 60s/70s, details sometimes escape me.
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Post by: Firebutt McGee on July 23, 2010, 07:05:13 am
Is no one going to mention that pummeling Iron & Wine show?!?! All of that bass and distortion and white noise...totally killer.
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Post by: profile14 on July 23, 2010, 11:40:52 am
Some of those mentioned -- Raconteurs, BRMC, Stooges -- were loud alright, but any of the Dino Jr. shows I've been to were louder. I always bring my ear plugs for J, even though I'm prolly gonna be deaf soon anyway.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on July 23, 2010, 03:35:50 pm
Dino shows are some of the loudest for sure but they're also well mixed/balanced.

That BRMC was anything but.
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Post by: Venerable Bede on July 26, 2010, 02:04:01 pm
I still don't think i've ever experienced anything like Mogwai at the Ottobar, though.  It was like that Memorex ad.

any mogwai show. . .

the show that was probably the most damaging to my hearing was sugar "file under easy listening" tour at liberty lunch in austin.  halfway through the set i couldn't tell what songs they were playing anymore. . .
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Post by: bearman🐻 on July 26, 2010, 02:13:06 pm
Sugar, April 30th, 1993...the Beaster tour at the Aragon Ballroom. I actually think that was louder at many moments than My Bloody Valentine a couple years ago. I'll never forget that wall of a PA they had. Very intimidating. When they started "the Act We Act" I immediately could feel it slam all of the organs in my body. That's pretty much the definition of "loud".
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Post by: MindCage on July 26, 2010, 04:03:30 pm
There was nothing alarmingly loud about them when they played here.

I cannot believe no one has mentioned The Deftones

Exactly :) I thought they sounded fantastic for the 2004 show when they played for 2 1/2 hours.
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Post by: MindCage on July 26, 2010, 04:04:41 pm
I think it's safe to say one of the loudest shows NOT at the club would go to Jucifer.
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Post by: Vas Deferens on July 26, 2010, 04:09:30 pm
they're up there...
it's fun not wearing earplugs at their shows...

I think it's safe to say one of the loudest shows NOT at the club would go to Jucifer.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on July 26, 2010, 04:16:23 pm
Another one for the unnecessarily loud column:
I caught a couple (well parts of a couple) of the thievery shows in 2009. The first one sounded fine but the 2nd was one of the bassiest mudfests I've ever heard.
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Post by: Relaxer on July 26, 2010, 04:26:01 pm
There was a J Mascis + Fog show at the BC in the late 90s that was really loud
But the one that sticks in my head the most is the Soundtrack of Our Lives show for their 'Behind the Music' album.
I've seen Motorhead twice at the club and haven't been struck by it being overly loud.
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Post by: walkonby on July 26, 2010, 05:26:31 pm
the j show at black cat sticks out so wonderful in my mind.  the lone star j on stage proving his worth without "the one who sould not be spoken" and yes, very loud.  i somehow dragged my partner to it, who never goes to concerts with me, thinks my taste in music should have a 'dis' in front of it, hates going into dc, and saw the entire evening as "interesting."  he couldn't hear correctly the next morning, thought the bar's beer lines needed cleaning . . . and couldn't understand for the life of him why j plus that loud equals the way it has to be
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Post by: azaghal1981 on August 05, 2010, 09:36:46 am
Tuesday is in the top 10 loudest for me. All three bands were devastatingly loud but the mix was nice and crisp for each.

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Post by: Vas Deferens on August 05, 2010, 09:41:19 am
Yes, that Boris show was devastatingly loud and beautiful...........
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Post by: imbecile on August 05, 2010, 10:42:53 am
There was a J Mascis + Fog show at the BC in the late 90s that was really loud
But the one that sticks in my head the most is the Soundtrack of Our Lives show for their 'Behind the Music' album.
I've seen Motorhead twice at the club and haven't been struck by it being overly loud.

I saw J. Mascis and the Fog probably the day after at Alley Katz in Richmond.  It was brutally loud as well and about half the size of the black cat.  My ears suffered for quite a while after that one.
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Post by: Unsanity on August 05, 2010, 11:43:16 am
I thought that Boris show was the least loud they have been. Hah.

A few loud ones that stick out to me are The Locust when they opened for Fantomas, it was like a wall of jack hammers hitting you.

Deftones usually were pretty loud too.

also the Plea for Peace-Take Action tour way back when with the Dillinger Escape Plan was brutally loud.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on August 05, 2010, 11:48:13 am
I found that Boris show way louder than the BC shows and the Knitting Factory show from early '08.


And obviously, much clearer than the Black Cat shows.

I never felt low end in the pit of my stomach like that at the Black Cat.
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Post by: Sage 703 on August 05, 2010, 12:26:19 pm
Alcian Blue used to be pretty devastatingly loud, but they were never at the Club.  BC backstage, Galaxy Hut, Warehouse, Velvet.
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Post by: killsaly on August 05, 2010, 12:35:37 pm
SVI continues the Alcian Blue tradition.  I absolutely can not take out my ear plugs when i watch them play (which is 6 or so times a year, man they play a shit ton of area shows.)

None at the club though (not that I complain, i love the smaller venues way more.)
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Post by: smakawhat on August 05, 2010, 01:24:22 pm
I didn't think the Boris show was that loud either, with maybe the exceptional droney end with the lead singer Takeshi ripping out his Sunn amps...

Still doesn't beat the Ministry show I saw at the club years ago...
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Post by: mfanning on August 12, 2010, 12:04:21 am
The first night of Garbage in April '05...punishingly loud, but also crysal clear...the second night was noticeably softer...

Loudest of all time would have to be Sugar at Hammerjack's, November of '94...ears were ringin for 3 days after that...
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Post by: Justin Tonation on August 12, 2010, 12:38:13 am
Loudest of all time would have to be Sugar at Hammerjack's, November of '94...ears were ringin for 3 days after that...

I was there. Plenty loud, maybe top 10. What I remember more was the girl in the extraordinarily well-fitted white turtleneck on the catwalk above the rear of the stage.

Another loud one: Neil Young and Crazy Horse in '91 at the Capital Centre w/ Sonic Youth and Social Distortion. That was such a killer line-up I thought I'd type it again:
Neil Young
Sonic Youth
Social D