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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on August 17, 2010, 11:56:19 pm
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Anybody know how much a steak entree goes there? Friend moving here arrives Friday, thinking about taking him there. Yes, I know it is restaurant week, but I'd rather take him to Ray's. Thanks.
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there's this thing called google that will tell you just about anything, telephones are incredible inventions too.
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Anybody know how much a steak entree goes there? Friend moving here arrives Friday, thinking about taking him there. Yes, I know it is restaurant week, but I'd rather take him to Ray's. Thanks.
Both you and your friend are losers. Meat eating scum.
1. The Hunger Argument against meat-eating
Much of the world's massive hunger problems could be solved by the reduction or elimination of meat-eating. The reasons: 1) livestock pasture needs cut drastically into land which could otherwise be used to grow food; 2) vast quantities of food which could feed humans is fed to livestock raised to produce meat.
This year alone, twenty million people worldwide will die as a result of malnutrition. One child dies of malnutrition every 2.3 seconds. One hundred million people could be adequately fed using the land freed if Americans reduced their intake of meat by a mere 10%.
Twenty percent of the corn grown in the U.S. is eaten by people. Eighty percent of the corn and 95% of the oats grown in the U.S. is eaten by livestock. The percentage of protein wasted by cycling grain through livestock is calculated by experts as 90%.
One acre of land can produce 40,000 pounds of potatoes, or 250 pounds of beef. Fifty-six percent of all U.S. farmland is devoted to beef production, and to produce each pound of beef requires 16 pounds of edible grain and soybeans, which could be used to feed the hungry.
2. The Environmental Argument against meat-eating
Many of the world's massive environmental problems could be solved by the reduction or elimination of meat-eating, including global warming, loss of topsoil, loss of rainforests and species extinction.
The temperature of the earth is rising. This global warming, known as "the greenhouse effect," results primarily from carbon dioxide emissions from burning fossil fuels, such as oil and natural gas. Three times more fossil fuels must be burned to produce a meat-centered diet than for a meat-free diet. If people stopped eating meat, the threat of higher world temperatures would be vastly diminished.
Trees, and especially the old-growth forests, are essential to the survival of the planet. Their destruction is a major cause of global warming and top soil loss. Both of these effects lead to diminished food production. Meat-eating is the number one driving force for the destruction of these forests. Two-hundred and sixty million acres of U.S. forestland has been cleared for cropland to produce the meat-centered diet. Fifty-five square feet of tropical rainforest is consumed to produce every quarter-pound of rainforest beef. An alarming 75% of all U.S. topsoil has been lost to date. Eighty-five percent of this loss is directly related to livestock raising.
Another devastating result of deforestation is the loss of plant and animal species. Each year 1,000 species are eliminated due to destruction of tropical rainforests for meat grazing and other uses. The rate is growing yearly.
To keep up with U.S. consumption, 300 million pounds of meat are imported annually from Central and South America. This economic incentive impels these nations to cut down their forests to make more pastureland. The short-term gain ignores the long-term, irreparable harm to the earth's ecosystem. In effect these countries are being drained of their resources to put meat on the table of Americans while 75% of all Central American children under the age of five are undernourished.
3. The Cancer Argument against meat-eating
Those who eat flesh are far more likely to contract cancer than those following a vegetarian diet.
The risk of contracting breast cancer is 3.8 times greater for women who eat meat daily compared to less than once a week; 2.8 times greater for women who eat eggs daily compared to once a week; and 3.25 greater for women who eat butter and cheese 2 to 4 times a week as compared to once a week.
The risk of fatal ovarian cancer is three times greater for women who eat eggs 3 or more times a week as compared with less than once a week.
The risk of fatal prostate cancer is 3.6 times greater for men who consume meat, cheese, eggs and milk daily as compared with sparingly or not at all.
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Suzanne K.
April 12, 2006 4:06 PM
4. The Cholesterol Argument against meat-eating
Here are facts showing that: 1) U.S. physicians are not sufficiently trained in the importance of the relation of diet to health; 2) meat-eaters ingest excessive amounts of cholesterol, making them dangerously susceptible to heart attacks.
It is strange, but true that U.S. physicians are as a rule ill-educated in the single most important factor of health, namely diet and nutrition. Of the 125 medical schools in the U.S., only 30 require their students to take a course in nutrition. The average nutrition training received by the average U.S. physician during four years in school is only 2.5 hours. Thus doctors in the U.S. are ill-equipped to advise their patients in minimizing foods, such as meat, that contain excessive amounts of cholesterol and are known causes of heart attack.
Heart attack is the most common cause of death in the U.S., killing one person every 45 seconds. The male meat-eater's risk of death from heart attack is 50%. The risk to men who eats no meat is 15%. Reducing one's consumption of meat, dairy and eggs by 10% reduces the risk of heart attack by 10%. Completely eliminating these products from one's diet reduces the risk of heart attack by 90%.
The average cholesterol consumption of a meat-centered diet is 210 milligrams per day. The chance of dying from heart disease if you are male and your blood cholesterol is 210 milligrams daily is greater than 50%.
5. The Natural Resources Argument against meat-eating
The world's natural resources are being rapidly depleted as a result of meat-eating.
Raising livestock for their meat is a very inefficient way of generating food. Pound for pound, far more resources must be expended to produce meat than to produce grains, fruits and vegetables. For example, more than half of all water used for all purposes in the U.S. is consumed in livestock production. The amount of water used in production of the average cow is sufficient to float a destroyer (a large naval ship). While 25 gallons of water are needed to produce a pound of wheat, 5,000 gallons are needed to produce a pound of California beef. That same 5,000 gallons of water can produce 200 pounds of wheat. If this water cost were not subsidized by the government, the cheapest hamburger meat would cost more than $35 per pound.
Meat-eating is devouring oil reserves at an alarming rate. It takes nearly 78 calories of fossil fuel (oil, natural gas, etc.) energy to produce one calory of beef protein and only 2 calories of fossil fuel energy to produce one calory of soybean. If every human ate a meat-centered diet, the world's known oil reserves would last a mere 13 years. They would last 260 years if humans stopped eating meat altogether. That is 20 times longer, giving humanity ample time to develop alternative energy sources.
Thirty-three percent of all raw materials (base products of farming, forestry and mining, including fossil fuels) consumed by the U.S. are devoted to the production of livestock, as compared with 2% to produce a complete vegetarian diet.
6. The Antibiotic Argument against meat-eating
Here are facts showing the dangers of eating meat because of the large amounts of antibiotics fed to livestock to control staphylococci (commonly called staph infections), which are becoming immune to these drugs at an alarming rate.
The animals that are being raised for meat in the United States are diseased. The livestock industry attempts to control this disease by feeding the animals antibiotics. Huge quantities of drugs go for this purpose. Of all antibiotics used in the U.S., 55% are fed to livestock.
But this is only partially effective because the bacteria that cause disease are becoming immune to the antibiotics. The percentage of staphylococci infections resistant to penicillin, for example, has grown from 13% in 1960 to 91% in 1988. These antibiotics and-or the bacteria they are intended to destroy reside in the meat that goes to market.
It is not healthy for humans to consume this meat. The response of the European Economic Community to the routine feeding of antibiotics to U.S. livestock was to ban the importation of U.S. meat. European buyers do not want to expose consumers to this serious health hazard. By comparison, U.S. meat and pharmaceutical industries gave their full and complete support to the routine feeding of antibiotics to livestock, turning a blind eye to the threat of disease to the consumer.
7. The Pesticide Argument against meat-eating
Unknown to most meat-eaters, U.S.-produced meat contains dangerously high quantities of deadly pesticides.
The common belief is that the U.S. Department of Agriculture protects consumers' health through regular and thorough meat inspection. In reality, fewer than one out of every 250,000 slaughtered animals is tested for toxic chemical residues.
That these chemicals are indeed ingested by the meat-eater is proven by the following facts:
Ninety-nine percent of U.S. mother's milk contains significant levels of DDT. In stark contrast, only 8% of U.S. vegetarian mother's milk containing significant levels of DDT. This shows that the primary source of DDT is the meat ingested by the mothers.
Contamination of breast milk due to chlorinated hydrocarbon pesticides in animal products found in meat-eating mothers versus nonmeat-eating mothers is 35 times higher.
The amount of the pesticide Dieldrin ingested by the average breast-fed American infant is 9 times the permissible level.
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Suzanne K.
April 12, 2006 4:07 PM
8. The Ethical Argument against meat-eating
Many of those who have adopted a vegetarian diet have done so because of the ethical argument, either from reading about or personally experiencing what goes on daily at any one of the thousands of slaughterhouses in the U.S. and other countries, where animals suffer the cruel process of forced confinement, manipulation and violent death. Their pain and terror is beyond calculation.
The slaughterhouse is the final stop for animals raised for their flesh. These ghastly places, while little known to most meat-eaters, process enormous numbers of animals each years. In the U.S. alone, 660,000 animals are killed for meat every hour. A surprising quantity of meat is consumed by the meat-eater. The average percapita consumption of meat in the U.S., Canada and Australia is 200 pounds per year! The average American consumes in a 72-year lifetime approximately 11 cattle, 3 lambs and sheep, 23 hogs, 45 turkeys, 1,100 chickens and 862 pounds of fish! Bon appetite!
People who come in contact with slaughterhouses cannot help but be affected by what they see and hear. Those living nearby must daily experience the screams of terror and anger of the animals led to slaughter. Those working inside must also see and participate in the crimes of mayhem and murder. Most who choose this line of work are not on the job for long. Of all occupations in the U.S., slaughterhouse worker has the highest turnover rate. It also has the highest rate of on-the-job injury.
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Oh for heaven's sakes..
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Yeah, I wasn't going to respond until I started reading that..whatever it is posted above. (I knew I shouldn't have started).
It only took 24 words for the whole thing to fall apart - Claiming that meat production is a root cause for people starving to death, seriously. It's widely understood that aid programs are providing enough food to impoverished countries, but the lack of distribution networks, infrastructure and an abundance of corruption is preventing the aid from getting to where it it needed and millions of pounds of food spoil in storage every year in these countries.
The next paragraph is just as flawed - 20% of corn is consumed by people in this country and 80% used for feed. What about the 19% that is exported, or the 18% used for ethanol production. The fact the author didn't research a crop as easy to find information on as corn is just lazy and shows that this is a poorly researched glorified chain-letter at best.
Finally, 40,000 pounds of potatoes from an acre of land.. holy shit, potatoes aren't made out of lead. I think the actual figure is more like 15,000 pounds. Again, just blatantly misrepresenting facts causes people to question your entire argument.
I stopped reading at that point as I don't have all day to rip apart that entire thing.
So yes, a steak entree at Ray's will run about 20 bucks (http://dcist.com/2010/04/rays_the_steak_at_east_river.php). ..and if you can somehow find a way to turn that steak into thousands of miles of roads, several warehouses and a fleet of trucks across Africa to help get food to starving children I'd avoid eating it, otherwise, enjoy.
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but it was james ford . . . that should count for something, no?
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Meat is tasty.
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Why is it called Ray's The Steaks. That sounds so confusing.
thirsty's The Bar.
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it's a play on words, to "Raise the Stakes"
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there's this thing called google that will tell you just about anything, telephones are incredible inventions too.
Yeah, I already looked it up, asshole. Also look when I posted the thread, they weren't open at the time.
Take your sanctimonious bullshit and go fuck yourself.
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Why is it called Ray's The Steaks. That sounds so confusing.
thirsty's The Bar.
find an old girlfriend. think of what she used to call you, and there you go. the owner, michael landrum, claims that is the origin of the name he uses for his incarnations.
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it's a play on words, to "Raise the Stakes"
The name still sucks.
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there's this thing called google that will tell you just about anything, telephones are incredible inventions too.
Yeah, I already looked it up, asshole. Also look when I posted the thread, they weren't open at the time.
Take your sanctimonious bullshit and go fuck yourself.
Funny. I googled ray's the steaks menu and got a ton of results. Perhaps that's just too complicated for you. And don't get mad at me just because you're not clever enough to execute a search on the www. Maybe your mom could come over there and do it for you. But she'd probably just tell you to google that shit too.
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BTW, I've heard nothing but stellar things about this place. I'm visiting the arlington location over labor day weekend.
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Ah, ok . . .thus 'raise hell' burger as well . . .
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imbecile, thanks for the link
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imbecile, thanks for the link
Thanks for the discussion, imbecile.
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Thanks for the discussion, imbecile.
Wrong thread, cunt.
It's not about the latest phone from Japan with shiny buttons that nobody gives a shit about.
Make yourself relevant and post on a nite club web site that's at least on the same coast that you reside.
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Haha, I love these redheaded stepchild threads.
Hey, I'm supposed to meet my friend today at 7 . . .does anyone know what time it is?
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Thanks for the discussion, imbecile.
Wrong thread, cunt.
It's not about the latest phone from Japan with shiny buttons that nobody gives a shit about.
Make yourself relevant and post on a nite club web site that's at least on the same coast that you reside.
Hey, Slappy. Drop it, please. Smackie is a very long time vested member of this forum way back from when he use to live in DC. While I'll refrain from getting involved and making judgement on this 'imbecile' arguement, by looking at his vanity thread, it's very obvious that many here like and appreciate both Smackie and his thread. So please refrain from attacking Smackie so that I can retract my claws. Thanks.
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Slappy registered 10/16/2001. Vansmack registered 10/4/2001.
I reckon Vansmack does have seniority, but one could also argue Slappy is a long time vested member as well.
But you have to admit, Slappy's post was funny. Just like the times he has slapped me on here.
Thanks for the discussion, imbecile.
Wrong thread, cunt.
It's not about the latest phone from Japan with shiny buttons that nobody gives a shit about.
Make yourself relevant and post on a nite club web site that's at least on the same coast that you reside.
Hey, Slappy. Drop it, please. Smackie is a very long time vested member of this forum way back from when he use to live in DC. While I'll refrain from getting involved and making judgement on this 'imbecile' arguement, by looking at his vanity thread, it's very obvious that many here like and appreciate both Smackie and his thread. So please refrain from attacking Smackie so that I can retract my claws. Thanks.
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But you have to admit, Slappy's post was funny.
I laughed. And I would laugh twice as hard if he meant it as I was simply going for a play on words there...I think TMUL and imbecile got it.
And thanks Jag, but there's room for everybody. He's not the first and he certainly won't be the last to be jealous of my stature.
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3. The Cancer Argument against meat-eating
Those who eat flesh are far more likely to contract cancer than those following a vegetarian diet.
The risk of contracting breast cancer is 3.8 times greater for women who eat meat daily compared to less than once a week; 2.8 times greater for women who eat eggs daily compared to once a week; and 3.25 greater for women who eat butter and cheese 2 to 4 times a week as compared to once a week.
The risk of fatal ovarian cancer is three times greater for women who eat eggs 3 or more times a week as compared with less than once a week.
The risk of fatal prostate cancer is 3.6 times greater for men who consume meat, cheese, eggs and milk daily as compared with sparingly or not at all.
I'm so fucking tired of vegan acquaintances bringing this shit up... All of the studies that link meat/dairy/etc. consumption to cancer include processed deli meats, hotdogs, certain cheeses and so on which use chemical preservatives. It's the nitrites in many of these preservatives which can act as carcinogens. No study that I've seen has tested the connection of cancer to grass-fed, unprocessed livestock. A study that spans (surprise) all forms of all the things that vegans are against is not only suspiciously directed towards one conclusion, but will clearly fail to isolate the source of the problem.
What I'm saying here is that there is some obvious selection bias going on there.
The "vegans will fix world hunger/everything/war/unhappiness" point of view strikes me as extremely short-sighted, as in probably 90% of the world it's impossible to be vegan and be well-fed. Additionally, it runs counter to zillions of local traditions in zillions of places. It is also not economically viable for a significant portion of even the US population. Imposing vegan ideals on the whole world, even theoretically, is both ignorant and colonialistic.
This is the kind of self-righteous bullshit, although on a smaller scale, that has caused hundreds of wars.
To be a vegan is an imposition on the people around you, on the friends and family you love. To rant about how you're fucking saving the world through it makes it even less pleasant for us/them to tolerate your perma-teenaged bullshit.
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Thanks for the discussion, imbecile.
Wrong thread, cunt.
It's not about the latest phone from Japan with shiny buttons that nobody gives a shit about.
Make yourself relevant and post on a nite club web site that's at least on the same coast that you reside.
Hey, Slappy. Drop it, please. Smackie is a very long time vested member of this forum way back from when he use to live in DC. While I'll refrain from getting involved and making judgement on this 'imbecile' arguement, by looking at his vanity thread, it's very obvious that many here like and appreciate both Smackie and his thread. So please refrain from attacking Smackie so that I can retract my claws. Thanks.
Some facts...
1. As pointed out I have been on here as long if not longer because I re-registered after the change in forums.
2. I have never read nor intend to look at his douchey 'vanity' thread. He obviously really can't get enough of himself as my comment was referring to the iphone thread.
3. That wasn't an 'attack'. That was just seeing someone behaving as a cunt and calling them on it. An attack would be like I'm gonna beat you up after school. I have no intentions of flying across the country nor across the street to go after anyone. I'm a lover not a fighter.
Opinion...
I visit the forum mainly to find out about upcoming shows or music news with the occasional stuff on local things. It's strange that so much leeway and protection is given to a select few that have nothing better to do than post here all day long. Let them take their egos to one of the multitudes of other outlets like facebook, a blog, or twitter to masturbate.
There would probably be more local traffic on this site if you kept the playing field level instead of protecting someone thousands of miles away that has no real contribution to the 9:30 club/ DC area discussion.
If the Staph/Seth wanted to have a diverse forum with more people, they'd have moderators that had the same rules for everyone from the newbie to the douchebags that get their panties in a wad for having 3000 posts.
Try a scratching post for those claws. I think Pawticulars on the Hill has 'em.
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Thanks for the discussion, imbecile.
Wrong thread, cunt.
It's not about the latest phone from Japan with shiny buttons that nobody gives a shit about.
Make yourself relevant and post on a nite club web site that's at least on the same coast that you reside.
Hey, Slappy. Drop it, please. Smackie is a very long time vested member of this forum way back from when he use to live in DC. While I'll refrain from getting involved and making judgement on this 'imbecile' arguement, by looking at his vanity thread, it's very obvious that many here like and appreciate both Smackie and his thread. So please refrain from attacking Smackie so that I can retract my claws. Thanks.
Some facts...
1. As pointed out I have been on here as long if not longer because I re-registered after the change in forums.
2. I have never read nor intend to look at his douchey 'vanity' thread. He obviously really can't get enough of himself as my comment was referring to the iphone thread.
3. That wasn't an 'attack'. That was just seeing someone behaving as a cunt and calling them on it. An attack would be like I'm gonna beat you up after school. I have no intentions of flying across the country nor across the street to go after anyone. I'm a lover not a fighter.
Opinion...
I visit the forum mainly to find out about upcoming shows or music news with the occasional stuff on local things. It's strange that so much leeway and protection is given to a select few that have nothing better to do than post here all day long. Let them take their egos to one of the multitudes of other outlets like facebook, a blog, or twitter to masturbate.
There would probably be more local traffic on this site if you kept the playing field level instead of protecting someone thousands of miles away that has no real contribution to the 9:30 club/ DC area discussion.
If the Staph/Seth wanted to have a diverse forum with more people, they'd have moderators that had the same rules for everyone from the newbie to the douchebags that get their panties in a wad for having 3000 posts.
Try a scratching post for those claws. I think Pawticulars on the Hill has 'em.
you're type of forum sounds boring and conformist and cultish . . . like when that woman took over hogwarts in harry potter and the order of the phoenix.
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Wow. It must be male PMS day in here. :o :D :o
Here you guys. This might help.
(http://www.womenlivingnaturally.com/images/products/LargePmsEstroven50.jpg)
Slappy, I enjoyed reading your response. It made me laugh... a lot.
Walkie, I fully agree with you. You understand cats purrrfectly well. ;D
Smackie.... Cheers! ;)
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Some facts...
...douchey 'vanity' thread. He obviously really can't get enough of himself...
...behaving as a cunt....
Technically, those are opinions.
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you're type of forum sounds boring and conformist and cultish . . . like when that woman took over hogwarts in harry potter and the order of the phoenix.
Of course you don't like it, you can identify wirh one of the atributes i criticized. Sorry, i don't get the harry potter reference as i'm not 12 years old or 40 and older thinking i should watch such crap to relive my youth.
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Some facts...
...douchey 'vanity' thread. He obviously really can't get enough of himself...
...behaving as a cunt....
Technically, those are opinions.
Nope, sorry to break it to you. You have both a douchey thread and are a cunt. Go to the FAQ section and ask for yourself. Don't hate the game, hate way you're playing it.
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Wow. It must be male PMS day in here. :o :D :o
Here you guys. This might help.
Slappy, I enjoyed reading your response. It made me laugh... a lot.
Walkie, I fully agree with you. You understand cats purrrfectly well. ;D
Smackie.... Cheers! ;)
;D ;D Cute dismissive comment with lame image back at ya! Hope you laugh... alot. And shout out to all the douchebag posters by truncating thier names and adding an 'ies' to the end! ;D ;D
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unreal thread
i too have heard nothing but good things about ray's
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nothing better than somebody who wants moderators to better control the site . . . as they go around calling everybody cunts and douchebags. in the immortal words of somebody on here, "get the fuck off my internet!" "and get the fuck out of here, as well."
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can we get a cat pic ;D
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(http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq93/amandamoffattblog/Lol%20Creatures/funny-pictures-cat-asks-ted-to-get-.jpg)
outside "meow's the steaks."
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EDIT: I'll take the high road here. I'm sorry that I offended you with my joke. I apologize that I have done something (or, perhaps many things) to make you not care for my brand of entertainment here on the board. I'm not likely to change drastically, however, I will be more sensitive to your suggestions that I focus more on things that interest you. When I'm in DC in the next couple months, perhaps we can get a drink and you will see that I'm really not a bad guy. Most people who meet me find me a rather pleasant fella. I hope that you will too.
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Opinion...
I visit the forum mainly to find out about upcoming shows or music news with the occasional stuff on local things. It's strange that so much leeway and protection is given to a select few that have nothing better to do than post here all day long. Let them take their egos to one of the multitudes of other outlets like facebook, a blog, or twitter to masturbate.
There would probably be more local traffic on this site if you kept the playing field level instead of protecting someone thousands of miles away that has no real contribution to the 9:30 club/ DC area discussion.
If the Staph/Seth wanted to have a diverse forum with more people, they'd have moderators that had the same rules for everyone from the newbie to the douchebags that get their panties in a wad for having 3000 posts.
threads are usually pretty clearly titled and easy to avoid. if you don't want to read one, don't click on the link. if you are somehow required to read everything on this board (a situation that only applies to one person that i know of here), you don't have to respond to anything.
if you want more music posts and local scene related posts, make them. speaking as the only person that has to read everything here, i appreciate the variety of discussions, as long as they are carried out respectfully. the club is the common thread that brings people here, but it is not the only thing that can be discussed.
what is not appreciated is the unnecessary name calling. based on a quick forum search, you clearly have some beef with vansmack. maybe you should just not read his posts?
and maybe you should take some of your own advice, from 2003:
"hey young dude...here's some common sense. just because a person fits a stereotype doesn't make it kosher to call them a derogatory name."
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those two should fight it out across the street from 930 on the night of the tears for fears show.
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EDIT: I'll take the high road here. I'm sorry that I offended you with my joke. I apologize that I have done something (or, perhaps many things) to make you not care for my brand of entertainment here on the board. I'm not likely to change drastically, however, I will be more sensitive to your suggestions that I focus more on things that interest you. When I'm in DC in the next couple months, perhaps we can get a drink and you will see that I'm really not a bad guy. Most people who meet me find me a rather pleasant fella. I hope that you will too.
No apology needed. Like I said, I was more offended with the notion that the frequency and history of one's posting gives them more entitlement to be an ass than others.
Dude, I don't care what you post. It would just be nice to go on a thread about Ray's the Steaks and not see said brand of entertainment.
I'm sure you are rather pleasant and I'd even buy a round myself.
Kumbayah Motherfuckers!
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threads are usually pretty clearly titled and easy to avoid. if you don't want to read one, don't click on the link. if you are somehow required to read everything on this board (a situation that only applies to one person that i know of here), you don't have to respond to anything.
if you want more music posts and local scene related posts, make them. speaking as the only person that has to read everything here, i appreciate the variety of discussions, as long as they are carried out respectfully. the club is the common thread that brings people here, but it is not the only thing that can be discussed.
what is not appreciated is the unnecessary name calling. based on a quick forum search, you clearly have some beef with vansmack. maybe you should just not read his posts?
and maybe you should take some of your own advice, from 2003:
"hey young dude...here's some common sense. just because a person fits a stereotype doesn't make it kosher to call them a derogatory name."
Right on, I hear ya. But this thread was about supposedly about 'Ray's the Steaks' new joint. I (and probably others) don't care what is discussed on the forums, but the regulars can keep their banter relevant to a thread. This way people can actual do what is suggested and avoid threads.
Sorry to everyone for junking up this thread. I ate at the new Ray's a couple months ago, the half chicken was awesome.
It is a good quote...but to my defense, 2003 WAS before 'Deadwood'. Those cocksuckers changed everything!
Kidding ... it was only done for effect.
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I have eaten at Rays Arlington location (both old and new) a dozen times and they have all been fantastic. They make it an enormous pain in the ass to get a table but once you do, it as great a steak place as you will find. I have eaten at Hell Burger three times and I find it overrated. No better than any other gourmet burger joint - just more unusual toppings. I have not been to the east river one but have only heard poor reviews.
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Ray's makes the best steaks.. love their stuff!!
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mr lily and i are regular's at ray's the classics in silver spring. that crab bisque is like crack its so good and i've yet to find a better hanger steak anywhere in the metropolitan area.
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What's the beer selection like at the RTS in Arlington and Minnesota Ave? Bottles and/or drafts? IPAs? Prices? And a pre-emptive go fuck yourself to chaz.
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threads are usually pretty clearly titled and easy to avoid. if you don't want to read one, don't click on the link. if you are somehow required to read everything on this board (a situation that only applies to one person that i know of here), you don't have to respond to anything.
if you want more music posts and local scene related posts, make them. speaking as the only person that has to read everything here, i appreciate the variety of discussions, as long as they are carried out respectfully. the club is the common thread that brings people here, but it is not the only thing that can be discussed.
what is not appreciated is the unnecessary name calling. based on a quick forum search, you clearly have some beef with vansmack. maybe you should just not read his posts?
and maybe you should take some of your own advice, from 2003:
"hey young dude...here's some common sense. just because a person fits a stereotype doesn't make it kosher to call them a derogatory name."
Right on, I hear ya. But this thread was about supposedly about 'Ray's the Steaks' new joint. I (and probably others) don't care what is discussed on the forums, but the regulars can keep their banter relevant to a thread. This way people can actual do what is suggested and avoid threads.
Sorry to everyone for junking up this thread. I ate at the new Ray's a couple months ago, the half chicken was awesome.
It is a good quote...but to my defense, 2003 WAS before 'Deadwood'. Those cocksuckers changed everything!
Kidding ... it was only done for effect.
and sorry to you that i exploded such as i did . . . it was rude of me to be such an ass. i do however find it frightening this ability thatguy has to know everything we've ever said since the start.
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What's the beer selection like at the RTS in Arlington and Minnesota Ave? Bottles and/or drafts? IPAs? Prices? And a pre-emptive go fuck yourself to chaz.
Sheesh...all the kissing and making up on this thread and you still couldn't keep that tiny thing in your pants.
I, for one, apologize for my snark.
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Can we get a forum meetup at this Rays place and Seth can foot the bill? ;D
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i'll bring the catnip. :D
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What's the beer selection like at the RTS in Arlington and Minnesota Ave? Bottles and/or drafts? IPAs? Prices? And a pre-emptive go fuck yourself to chaz.
I wouldn't go for the beer, while better than most steak houses, I don't recall it being great at either. The wine selection at Courthouse is very large with something like 50 wines by the glass and pretty reasonable prices.
From what I remember the beer selection at East River was fairly regional. I think I had a Starr Hill IPA that was a decent price, like $4 or $5?
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can we get a cat pic ;D
(http://media.englishrussia.com/classmates_photos/15.jpg)
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nice . . . tail.
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(http://9gag.com/photo/33549_540.jpg)
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can we get a cat pic ;D
(http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/morrissey_cat.JPG) (http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2010/09/03/morrissey-guardian-weekend-cover-cat-on-his-head/?ref=nf)
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very cute, I'm talking about the cat not Morrissey ;D