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Title: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: sweetcell on January 12, 2011, 01:31:31 pm
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Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage (http://edition.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/01/12/maryland.same.sex.marriage/index.html)
 
Maryland is poised to become the sixth state to recognize same-sex marriage as proponents say they believe they have enough support to pass such a measure in the upcoming legislative session.

The expansion of gay rights appears to have gained significant traction as Maryland's General Assembly begins its 90-day session Wednesday. Not only are Democrats optimistic about their chances of approving same-sex marriage, but a leading Republican, sensing momentum on the issue, has instead countered with a proposal to grant civil unions to gay couples.

Democratic Gov. Martin O'Malley has publicly stated that he would sign a marriage bill into law. Maryland then would join Massachusetts, Connecticut, Iowa, New Hampshire, Vermont and Washington, D.C., in sanctioning same-sex marriages.

(continued (http://edition.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/01/12/maryland.same.sex.marriage/index.html))


wo0t :)

(as a sarcastic gay friend of mine once pointed out, "great - now we have the right to be as miserable as straight couples!" ;D)
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: walkonby on January 12, 2011, 02:20:30 pm
i would say, here's hoping virginia is next . . . but they still like to throw stones at us and call us fricking queers down here.  that is after asking us to blow them when their wife isn't home, that is.
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: nkotb on January 12, 2011, 02:25:45 pm
Jesus, I was bored and it was just ONE TIME!!!!  Let it go!!!!

i would say, here's hoping virginia is next . . . but they still like to throw stones at us and call us fricking queers down here.  that is after asking us to blow them when their wife isn't home, that is.
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: sweetcell on January 12, 2011, 02:31:27 pm
news such as this, the legalization of marijuana, tax reforms, etc, gives me hope that someday this state will be progressive enough to allow the sale of beer and wine in grocery stores...  ::)
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: runwhiteyrun06 on January 12, 2011, 02:52:47 pm
news such as this, the legalization of marijuana, tax reforms, etc, gives me hope that someday this state will be progressive enough to allow the sale of beer and wine in grocery stores...  ::)

Stores in PG county can. Going to the grocery store during college was much better than regular shopping because alcohol was there.


It's nice to see that Maryland may legalize it. It will most likely only help the economy and it's nice to know that the numerous gay friends I have will legally be able to get married.
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: walkonby on January 13, 2011, 09:57:29 pm
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Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: azaghal1981 on January 13, 2011, 10:19:54 pm
Germantown Shoppers has alcohol.
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: shemptiness on January 14, 2011, 09:57:33 am
From the MoCo site:

Why can?t I purchase beer and wine in my grocery store?


Maryland State law prohibits this. Four Montgomery County grocery stores sell beer and wine today because they were licensed before the law changed.

Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: K8teebug on January 14, 2011, 11:37:06 am
They are working on getting wine mail delivery in MD as well.

Yay for MD! 
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: sweetcell on January 14, 2011, 12:22:27 pm
From the MoCo site:

Why can?t I purchase beer and wine in my grocery store?


Maryland State law prohibits this. Four Montgomery County grocery stores sell beer and wine today because they were licensed before the law changed.


reading up on this, i learned:

- MoCo is one of four counties in MD that have control over their liquor laws.  don't blame the state.
- MoCo Dept of Liquor Control also has a monopoly on the wholesale distribution of liquor (hence why beer and wine is cheaper at the county-run liquor stores).  all retailers, including independent beer-and-wine only stores, to buy from the county.  so if the county doesn't carry a brand (like, say, bell's), they you can't buy it in MoCo.
- the justification for the prohibition of sales by chain grocery stores, and the ban on sunday sales (currently suspended, i believe) is that it protects the small mom-and-pop businesses.  if giant and whole foods started selling beer and wine, a lot of independent retailers would go bankrupt.
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: RatBastard on January 16, 2011, 03:15:41 pm
I am going to post this at the extreme risk of being judged by my response.  The thing I don't like about this whole issue is that if one's beliefs are that gay marriage ought now be allowed, they are automatically assumed by many people to be anti-gay, gay haters, or whatever degree of that ideology is being thrust upon them.  (This is true of a lot of other issues as well BTW.)  I personally am opposed to gay marriage.  It, however, has nothing to do with being anti anything other than I am against gay marriage.  In whatever choices and decisions I make in life, the sexual orientation, preference, life style choice of others is of no concern.  Maybe I am in a small minority here, but it does suck that merely because of my believe on a particular issue I am easily labeled and judged by others.
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: walkonby on January 16, 2011, 04:05:03 pm
I am going to post this at the extreme risk of being judged by my response.  The thing I don't like about this whole issue is that if one's beliefs are that gay marriage ought now be allowed, they are automatically assumed by many people to be anti-gay, gay haters, or whatever degree of that ideology is being thrust upon them.  (This is true of a lot of other issues as well BTW.)  I personally am opposed to gay marriage.  It, however, has nothing to do with being anti anything other than I am against gay marriage.  In whatever choices and decisions I make in life, the sexual orientation, preference, life style choice of others is of no concern.  Maybe I am in a small minority here, but it does suck that merely because of my believe on a particular issue I am easily labeled and judged by others.


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Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: azaghal1981 on January 16, 2011, 06:58:50 pm
Exactly how does gay people being able to marry each other affect you personally? We don't exactly live in a theocracy. Your religious beliefs (which you have every right to) should have no bearing on the laws of the land. Certain religious groups disagree with the eating of certain meats; you never see Muslims or Jews or Hindus trying to outlawing the consumption or pork or beef.

Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on January 16, 2011, 10:36:33 pm
I've never really understood how you can have nothing against gay people, but still be against gay marriage. Seems like one of those statements is just a way to make yourself feel slightly better about the other.
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: azaghal1981 on January 16, 2011, 10:43:16 pm
It is like people who say "I'm not racist; I have three black friends!"
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on January 16, 2011, 10:54:55 pm
And the fact that "lifestyle choices of others" are "of no concern" makes it all the more ridiculous to still be opposed to gay marriage. They aren't of any concern, exactly. So why does it matter?
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: RatBastard on January 17, 2011, 01:22:52 pm
Exactly how does gay people being able to marry each other affect you personally? We don't exactly live in a theocracy. Your religious beliefs (which you have every right to) should have no bearing on the laws of the land. Certain religious groups disagree with the eating of certain meats; you never see Muslims or Jews or Hindus trying to outlawing the consumption or pork or beef.




My views are not based on religion at all.
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: RatBastard on January 17, 2011, 01:24:09 pm
I've never really understood how you can have nothing against gay people, but still be against gay marriage. Seems like one of those statements is just a way to make yourself feel slightly better about the other.

Simple.  Just as I have nothing against gun ownership but i don't think anyone at all shoudl be allowed to buy any gun on demand. 
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: RatBastard on January 17, 2011, 01:25:03 pm
It is like people who say "I'm not racist; I have three black friends!"



LOL actually I intentionally did not mention any family or friends who are gay just for that reason.
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: walkonby on January 17, 2011, 01:57:08 pm
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Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: walkonby on January 17, 2011, 01:59:38 pm
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Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: walkonby on January 17, 2011, 02:00:45 pm
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Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: walkonby on January 17, 2011, 02:01:45 pm
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Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on January 17, 2011, 02:08:45 pm
I've never really understood how you can have nothing against gay people, but still be against gay marriage. Seems like one of those statements is just a way to make yourself feel slightly better about the other.

Simple.  Just as I have nothing against gun ownership but i don't think anyone at all shoudl be allowed to buy any gun on demand. 
But that is something you have against gun ownership.
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 17, 2011, 02:33:13 pm
if i buy a gun i can shoot you

gay marriage has 0 effect on your life
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: walkonby on January 17, 2011, 02:39:58 pm
maybe nobody will marry him, so he's mad that gays should get to marry.  or maybe he's mad that the bfiftytwos are playing.  or maybe he's mad that the jets won and most people consider them gay.  or maybe he's a florist in maryland and think of all the extra work he'll have to do now.  or maybe he was locked in prison and was somebody's wife for awhile. 

or maybe only what he wants applies to him . . . and everybody else.  maybe he makes crazy youtube videos where he denounces currency and the government and gays.  maybe he will show up at a pride event and make the papers.  maybe.
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: walkonby on January 17, 2011, 02:57:18 pm
now back to being silly


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Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 18, 2011, 09:47:50 am
So when a mule marries a transxexual will that be considered a same sex marriage?

Just ask'n......
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 18, 2011, 09:54:33 am
no
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: walkonby on January 18, 2011, 10:08:33 am
So when a mule marries a transxexual will that be considered a same sex marriage?

Just ask'n......

well it does make you, an ass.

just say'n . . . .
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: James Ford on January 18, 2011, 10:28:15 am
I'm opposed to the killing of animals and think you should not be allowed to eat meat.

 Please don't label me a hater.


I am going to post this at the extreme risk of being judged by my response.  The thing I don't like about this whole issue is that if one's beliefs are that gay marriage ought now be allowed, they are automatically assumed by many people to be anti-gay, gay haters, or whatever degree of that ideology is being thrust upon them.  (This is true of a lot of other issues as well BTW.)  I personally am opposed to gay marriage.  It, however, has nothing to do with being anti anything other than I am against gay marriage.  In whatever choices and decisions I make in life, the sexual orientation, preference, life style choice of others is of no concern.  Maybe I am in a small minority here, but it does suck that merely because of my believe on a particular issue I am easily labeled and judged by others.
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 18, 2011, 10:43:12 am
I'm opposed to the killing of animals and think you should not be allowed to eat meat.

 Please don't label me a hater.


I am going to post this at the extreme risk of being judged by my response.  The thing I don't like about this whole issue is that if one's beliefs are that gay marriage ought now be allowed, they are automatically assumed by many people to be anti-gay, gay haters, or whatever degree of that ideology is being thrust upon them.  (This is true of a lot of other issues as well BTW.)  I personally am opposed to gay marriage.  It, however, has nothing to do with being anti anything other than I am against gay marriage.  In whatever choices and decisions I make in life, the sexual orientation, preference, life style choice of others is of no concern.  Maybe I am in a small minority here, but it does suck that merely because of my believe on a particular issue I am easily labeled and judged by others.

The problem we have to deal with is reverse prejudice and wildly false accusations from these so called 'minority groups'

For example Walkonby thinks I'm an ass. That's fine, it's his opinion and he's entitled to it. If I was to say I think walkonby is a fucking moron the next comment is directed towards me is "HOMOPHOBE" when nothing is further from the truth. It used to piss me off but now I just don't care. If walkonby is a fucking moron, he's a fucking moron right?

For the record, I don't care wether a transexual marries a mule or not. What I really care about is that the mule and transexual have just the same survivor rights and spousal benefits as the rest of us. Another thing, if religions don't want to accept or acknowledge non-traditional marriages then that should be their right to do so without any recourse from society or government.

Live and let live - and treat everyone equally. (except scousers)

Just wondering....if there's two penises in a marriage and it ends up in divorce, which penis gets the royal shaft and has to give all his money to the other penis for the rest of his fucking life?
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 18, 2011, 10:49:18 am
you lost me. is mule some sort of slang or do you mean an actual animal?
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 18, 2011, 10:58:11 am
you lost me. is mule some sort of slang or do you mean an actual animal?

I was being facetious that the traditional marriage of a man and a woman will soon be just a memory, because a precedent is being set (not that I personally care Walkonby so put your homophobe card away) so once it's lawful for same sex marriage the next thing that will happen is people will want to marry their pets, or in some cases mules, should they take a shine to them. The mule/transexual just muddy's the waters because some consider a mule neither male or female as both are infertile, and a transexual is well, just that.
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 18, 2011, 11:02:16 am
it is a little hateful to draw a parallel between a relationship between two concenting adults and people fucking their pets. just sayin
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: Vas Deferens on January 18, 2011, 11:07:17 am
frank,

why would people wanna marry their pets?  that's disgusting...unless that's what you're really trying to tell us when two people of the same sex get married...?
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: James Ford on January 18, 2011, 11:09:49 am
Next thing you know, straights are going to want the right to have butt sex.
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 18, 2011, 11:12:15 am
Not hateful at all......I don't understand why you would think that.

I've made it quite clear many times. I hate nobody but scousers. And John Terry. But that's it...well you could include Keith Olbermann but nobody watches him anyway so not an issue. But that's definately it. Perhaps Chris Mathews but nobody else. Done! Not even Tevez who will go whore himself to Spain just as soon as the kisses on his Man City badge have dried.  ::)
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 18, 2011, 11:13:47 am
Next thing you know, straights are going to want the right to have butt sex.

Not in Maryland, unless they changed the law.
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 18, 2011, 11:14:29 am
Oh yeah.....That hate monger Bill Maher but that's definately it.
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: sweetcell on January 18, 2011, 11:24:10 am
I was being facetious that the traditional marriage of a man and a woman will soon be just a memory, because a precedent is being set (not that I personally care Walkonby so put your homophobe card away) so once it's lawful for same sex marriage the next thing that will happen is people will want to marry their pets, or in some cases mules, should they take a shine to them.

what we have here, folks, is a fine piece of conservative bullshit.

"i don't support the assault weapon ban, because next thing you know they'll be breaking down my door to take away my steak knives and sewing scissors".

"i don't support the right of blacks to vote, because next thing you know we'll be giving the vote to cats and dogs".

"i'm against health care reform, because it'll lead to forced drug prescriptions and death panels."

it's a common right-wing tactic: portray a change that is scary to them as a nonsensical slippery slope.  it makes sense to them, but only because they put their beliefs before logic or intellectual honesty.  bringing in animals is pure FUD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt). 
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: azaghal1981 on January 18, 2011, 11:26:25 am
I refuse to believe that that comment was no more than a joke. Maybe a bit of satire.

Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: walkonby on January 18, 2011, 11:36:30 am
i believe, that unless you are gay . . . your words/ideas/jokes means nothing to this conversation.  so go take your political based, religion based, heterosexual based opinion and fuck yourself.  we, as gay people, don't give a mule's ass what you think or need you to tell us how to live our lives.  again, unless you are gay, "shut up.  you've fucked up marriage for the past 1000 years . . . we don't need your help in what the definition is."
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 18, 2011, 11:43:32 am
I refuse to believe that that comment was no more than a joke. Maybe a bit of satire.




Thank you! My god some people have a stick up their arse...(oops! There I go again!!!)
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 18, 2011, 11:48:11 am
i believe, that unless you are gay . . . your words/ideas/jokes means nothing to this conversation.  so go take your political based, religion based, heterosexual based opinion and fuck yourself.  we, as gay people, don't give a mule's ass what you think or need you to tell us how to live our lives.  again, unless you are gay, "shut up.  you've fucked up marriage for the past 1000 years . . . we don't need your help in what the definition is."


Hee hee - He almost said it's a gay thing, I wouldn't understand!

And if you want to be 'accepted by the mainstream' give up with the fucking rainbow stickers already. I don't give a monkeys who you sleep next to at night. Oh, and your gay pride nonesense? All you're doing is making a statement that you're different while demanding you are just the same. Just what do you want exactly?

 
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: nkotb on January 18, 2011, 11:48:21 am
I think we should all agree on this point.  Because honestly, who gives a fuck?

Another thing, if religions don't want to accept or acknowledge non-traditional marriages then that should be their right to do so without any recourse from society or government.

I guess the sticking point I always have is why people that it doesn't affect give a shit.  Aside from thinking that it does sound a bit homophobic, I wouldn't jump immediately to say Rat Bastard hates gays.  But I would say, without a real clarification, his view of "I'm cool with gays as long as they don't have the same rights as me" sounds nonsensical.
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: Jaguar on January 18, 2011, 11:55:24 am
frank,

why would people wanna marry their pets?  that's disgusting...unless that's what you're really trying to tell us when two people of the same sex get married...?

This isn't the one that I was thinking of but it will do. Recently, someone else made the news for wanting to marry their pet. Think it was some woman in Japan.

http://zeldalily.com/index.php/2009/07/ghanian-woman-stops-talking-about-marrying-her-dog-and-actually-does-it/

Here's another one:

http://www.scpr.org/blogs/hettie-lynne-hurtes/2010/05/03/german-man-unofficially-marries-his-cat/
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: sweetcell on January 18, 2011, 12:08:30 pm
I refuse to believe that that comment was no more than a joke. Maybe a bit of satire.



Thank you! My god some people have a stick up their arse...(oops! There I go again!!!)

so frank, you're not serious?  you don't think that anyone will try marrying a mule?  then why did you put it forth as a argument against gay marriage? 

it's very easy to claim "JUST KIDDING!!!" when busted.
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 18, 2011, 12:11:01 pm
I was being facetious that the traditional marriage of a man and a woman will soon be just a memory, because a precedent is being set (not that I personally care Walkonby so put your homophobe card away) so once it's lawful for same sex marriage the next thing that will happen is people will want to marry their pets, or in some cases mules, should they take a shine to them.

what we have here, folks, is a fine piece of conservative bullshit.

"i don't support the assault weapon ban, because next thing you know they'll be breaking down my door to take away my steak knives and sewing scissors".

"i don't support the right of blacks to vote, because next thing you know we'll be giving the vote to cats and dogs".

"i'm against health care reform, because it'll lead to forced drug prescriptions and death panels."

it's a common right-wing tactic: portray a change that is scary to them as a nonsensical slippery slope.  it makes sense to them, but only because they put their beliefs before logic or intellectual honesty.  bringing in animals is pure FUD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt). 

....and what we have here is your typical lefty-loonie making bold statements about what other people are thinking, while throwing in the race card at every opportunity. Even though race is not even a part of the discussion. I'm sure I shoulder some of the blame for the nutjob in Arizona recently right?

I'm not even a conservative you idiot. I don't own a gun, I don't have a concealed weapons permit, I don't belong to the NRA and I don't hunt. I believe if you go into the archives on this message board you will find I am the most outspoken when it comes to being anti 2nd amendment rights. I hate NASCAR and don't like country music (apart from Zac Brown band and a couple of Sugarland songs - great voice eh?- but we all have guilty pleasures) I don't drive a truck..(in fact I drive a classic hippy-mobile - Jeep Wrangler) I don't own a suit and I hang out in coffee shops and bookstores.

You are right on healthcare reform though...I grew up with socialized medicine and even though it sounds great in theory, and I admit it does, the truth of the matter is it does not work. America already has it anyway....so you may want to ask a veteran how socialized medicine is working out for them? All shit-slinging aside....be careful what you wish for when it comes to this issue.

Right then....back to flaming me for this comment.....(ducks)
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 18, 2011, 12:12:05 pm
I refuse to believe that that comment was no more than a joke. Maybe a bit of satire.



Thank you! My god some people have a stick up their arse...(oops! There I go again!!!)

so frank, you're not serious?  you don't think that anyone will try marrying a mule?  then why did you put it forth as a argument against gay marriage? 

it's very easy to claim "JUST KIDDING!!!" when busted.

You don't really comprehend very well do you. Please point out were I stated I was against same sex marriage?
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: Brian_Wallace on January 18, 2011, 12:47:25 pm

Is this where we post about the Kylie/Patriot Center meet-up?

Brian
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 18, 2011, 01:09:30 pm

Is this where we post about the Kylie/Patriot Center meet-up?

Brian

Details for the Kylie meet up will be finalized at the B52's show tonight...

....oops. I'm so silly, I mean tomorrow night. I must've bumped my head while I was rollerblading.
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: vansmack on January 18, 2011, 01:27:09 pm
I think we should all agree on this point.  Because honestly, who gives a fuck?

Another thing, if religions don't want to accept or acknowledge non-traditional marriages then that should be their right to do so without any recourse from society or government.


As soon as they stop sticking their religious rules in my face through the Government...

Everybody in CA knows that it was not the religious groups in CA that blocked same sex marriage here.  Stay the hell in your backwards ass church in your backwards ass state and leave us alone.  We'll get along just fine with out you...
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: walkonby on January 18, 2011, 01:41:46 pm

Is this where we post about the Kylie/Patriot Center meet-up?

Brian

Details for the Kylie meet up will be finalized at the B52's show tonight...

....oops. I'm so silly, I mean tomorrow night. I must've bumped my head while I was rollerblading.

don't you mean, "bumped your head while fucking your children" . . .  i mean that is what straight people do, isn't it?
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: nkotb on January 18, 2011, 01:42:22 pm
Oh, I agree there....they have no place in dictating the law of the land.  I was just referencing more Frank's comment about it being a church's right to not recognize it.  I'm fine with that, but agree that laws shouldn't have anything to do with the church's input or assbackward-ness.

I think we should all agree on this point.  Because honestly, who gives a fuck?

Another thing, if religions don't want to accept or acknowledge non-traditional marriages then that should be their right to do so without any recourse from society or government.


As soon as they stop sticking their religious rules in my face through the Government...

Everybody in CA knows that it was not the religious groups in CA that blocked same sex marriage here.  Stay the hell in your backwards ass church in your backwards ass state and leave us alone.  We'll get along just fine with out you...
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: sweetcell on January 18, 2011, 01:56:56 pm
throwing in the race card at every opportunity. Even though race is not even a part of the discussion.

oh, sorta like marrying an animal was never part of the discussion either? :) 

I'm not even a conservative you idiot.

fair enough, but between your defense of traditional marriage and your statements that you hated only liberal pundits (Keith Olbermann, Bill Maher), you kinda painted yourself into a corner...

You are right on healthcare reform though...I grew up with socialized medicine and even though it sounds great in theory, and I admit it does, the truth of the matter is it does not work. America already has it anyway....so you may want to ask a veteran how socialized medicine is working out for them? All shit-slinging aside....be careful what you wish for when it comes to this issue.

i too grew up with socialized medicine, and it does work.  is it perfect?  hell no.  but less problems than having the uninsured suffer from preventable ailments and having communicable diseases that we vanquished decades ago making resurgences. 
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 18, 2011, 02:14:06 pm
throwing in the race card at every opportunity. Even though race is not even a part of the discussion.

oh, sorta like marrying an animal was never part of the discussion either? :) 
I didn't flash the beastiality card, I was being sarcastic to make a point, and it is relevant to a degree that marrying an animal would be non-traditional, and people have already tried

I'm not even a conservative you idiot.

fair enough, but between your defense of traditional marriage and your statements that you hated only liberal pundits (Keith Olbermann, Bill Maher), you kinda painted yourself into a corner...
I singled those out because they are far left extremists delivering nothing but a diatribe of hate. I don't even think rational thinking liberals agree with those two

You are right on healthcare reform though...I grew up with socialized medicine and even though it sounds great in theory, and I admit it does, the truth of the matter is it does not work. America already has it anyway....so you may want to ask a veteran how socialized medicine is working out for them? All shit-slinging aside....be careful what you wish for when it comes to this issue.

i too grew up with socialized medicine, and it does work.  is it perfect?  hell no.  but less problems than having the uninsured suffer from preventable ailments and having communicable diseases that we vanquished decades ago making resurgences. 
We can debate this till the cows come home (to their spouses) and not agree. The current US health system definately needs an overhaul, but a full blown socialized system is not the answer imo. I think the government just needs to provide for catastrophic and life long injuries and diseases and for disease control (vaccinations etc.) The health insurance market needs to be opened across state lines and you will see premiums begin to drop. Especially if they don't have to cover the catastrophic stuff I just mentioned. Maybe that makes too much sense for beaurocrats? Or I'm too simplistic in my thinking. If you want to wait 5+ months to see a specialist, or 12+ months for that hip replacement/acl tear then knock yourself out. Having just had some pretty major shoulder surgery 2 weeks after it was decided it was required, I don't thank you.







walkonby - just the catholics evidently, and it's usually man/boy, which brings us full circle back the gay issue!!!  :P Your serve...
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: RatBastard on January 18, 2011, 02:20:28 pm
if i buy a gun i can shoot you

gay marriage has 0 effect on your life


Sure you can.  We all have the ability to fire a weapon and we can choose to point it at anyone when doing so.  As with everything in life, it has consequences.
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: RatBastard on January 18, 2011, 02:21:46 pm
I'm opposed to the killing of animals and think you should not be allowed to eat meat.

 Please don't label me a hater.


I am going to post this at the extreme risk of being judged by my response.  The thing I don't like about this whole issue is that if one's beliefs are that gay marriage ought now be allowed, they are automatically assumed by many people to be anti-gay, gay haters, or whatever degree of that ideology is being thrust upon them.  (This is true of a lot of other issues as well BTW.)  I personally am opposed to gay marriage.  It, however, has nothing to do with being anti anything other than I am against gay marriage.  In whatever choices and decisions I make in life, the sexual orientation, preference, life style choice of others is of no concern.  Maybe I am in a small minority here, but it does suck that merely because of my believe on a particular issue I am easily labeled and judged by others.

But you are OK with killing plants which are also living things and eating them?
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: James Ford on January 18, 2011, 02:27:21 pm
While you guys are bickering about your preferences about which gender or species it's best to fuck, you seem to have overlooked that Mankie admitted to liking the Zac Brown Band and Sugarland.

 
And I thought this was a music snob board. You guys truly disapppoint.

Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 18, 2011, 02:36:10 pm
While you guys are bickering about your preferences about which gender or species it's best to fuck, you seem to have overlooked that Mankie admitted to liking the Zac Brown Band and Sugarland.

 
And I thought this was a music snob board. You guys truly disapppoint.



oh come on....tell me you can't help but singalong to "stuck on you" or "I got ma toes in the water, ass in the sand, not a worry in the world, a cold beer in my hand....life is good today. Life is good today" They sound more like Jimmy Buffet than country to me - which isn't necessarily a good thing.
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: James Ford on January 18, 2011, 02:44:33 pm
Honestly, I've never heard of those songs.

I think I saw both of those bands once on an awards show or something and made a mental note that once was enough for me.

While you guys are bickering about your preferences about which gender or species it's best to fuck, you seem to have overlooked that Mankie admitted to liking the Zac Brown Band and Sugarland.

 
And I thought this was a music snob board. You guys truly disapppoint.



oh come on....tell me you can't help but singalong to "stuck on you" or "I got ma toes in the water, ass in the sand, not a worry in the world, a cold beer in my hand....life is good today. Life is good today" They sound more like Jimmy Buffet than country to me - which isn't necessarily a good thing.
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 18, 2011, 02:52:36 pm
Honestly, I've never heard of those songs.

I think I saw both of those bands once on an awards show or something and made a mental note that once was enough for me.

While you guys are bickering about your preferences about which gender or species it's best to fuck, you seem to have overlooked that Mankie admitted to liking the Zac Brown Band and Sugarland.

 
And I thought this was a music snob board. You guys truly disapppoint.



oh come on....tell me you can't help but singalong to "stuck on you" or "I got ma toes in the water, ass in the sand, not a worry in the world, a cold beer in my hand....life is good today. Life is good today" They sound more like Jimmy Buffet than country to me - which isn't necessarily a good thing.

That's were I saw them too and thought to myself, "That's odd, I don't fucking hate that with a passion" Of course, it doesn't help that I have an 8 year old son who loves to singalong just so he can get away with saying the 'ass' word. He also likes the 'rap' bit in the 'Stuck on you' song...yes, they do rap a little bit. Kind of like Debbie Harry rap, but rap nonetheless.

Luckily my child is a male and I'm straight or I'd be fucking her evidently!!!!!
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: vansmack on January 18, 2011, 03:02:06 pm
I'm very surprised the Robert's court rejected this:

Court rejects appeal over DC gay marriage law

WASHINGTON ? The Supreme Court has rejected an appeal from opponents of same-sex marriage who want to overturn the District of Columbia's gay marriage law.

The court did not comment Tuesday in turning away a challenge from a Maryland pastor and others who are trying to get a measure on the ballot to allow Washingtonians to vote on a measure that defines marriage as between a man and a woman.

Bishop Harry Jackson led a lawsuit against the district's Board of Elections and Ethics after it refused to put that initiative on the ballot. The board ruled that the ballot question would in effect authorize discrimination.

Last year, Washington began issuing marriage licenses for same-sex couples and in 2009, it began recognizing gay marriages performed elsewhere.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_supreme_court_gay_marriage
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 18, 2011, 04:46:44 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iDPw_qjhtM&ob=av2el

Go on then - I challenge you to listen to this without tapping your feet! (once you get past that annoying ad of course)

She is so darn cute too....take her home to meet your mum cute.
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: walkonby on January 18, 2011, 08:52:10 pm
ok ok . . . someone on here, who is too cute, clued me into the wide wide world of mankie and what a great guy he is and all that.  i will leave this thread alone and not comment anymore.  no hard feelings, mister frank gallager i hope.  that is all.
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: wml7 on January 18, 2011, 09:23:20 pm
and all this time I thought Frank only posted in the soccer thread  ;D
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: walkonby on January 18, 2011, 10:00:15 pm
but does power leveling approve of gay marriage?
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 18, 2011, 10:02:32 pm
but does power leveling approve of gay marriage?

what is this power leveling you speak of? ;) 
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: wml7 on January 18, 2011, 10:13:34 pm
but does power leveling approve of gay marriage?

what is this power leveling you speak of? ;) 

yes walky what is this power level?  ;D
Title: Re: Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 19, 2011, 10:01:09 am
I think we have a hacker...someone is posting as walkonby!!  ;)

No hard feelings, never had any in the first place.

I think it was Churchill (who may have stolen it from Wilde - who is reported to have nicked it from Shaw) who once said about the Brit/Yank relationship "Two nations divided by a common language" The same applies to our sense of humour/humor!