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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: DavidWG on January 31, 2011, 08:37:35 am
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So I went to the Dylan LeBlanc concert last night. Who the hell is Lissie by the way? Lissie's fans talked all the way through Dylan's set as if he wasn't there. They couldn't shut their mouths for one second and give a man singing his heart out in front of them a little respect. Dylan LeBlanc is one of the most gifted singer-songwriters to come along in decades. He's beloved in other countries. It's a shame he's not treated the same way in his own country. Lissie's fans are obviously self-centered, rude, obnoxious and wouldn't know talent if it hit them in the face.
Dylan if you are reading this, you were superb last night. I left the show after your set. Keep making great music.
Also it would have been nice if 9:30 Club announced Dylan before he came on. That might have helped. They also rudely started breaking down his set before Dylan had the chance to walk off the stage. I think he was going to do an encore but decided otherwise when the house lights came on and people started walking onto the stage. I doubt I'll come back to this place.
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In a larger club such as this one or the Black Cat, people are going to talk through the openers. I can name countless instances of this getting to me but it's a fact of life. The only thing you can do is to try to make the best of it.
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Signed, Dylan's Mom.
So I went to the Dylan LeBlanc concert last night. Who the hell is Lissie by the way? Lissie's fans talked all the way through Dylan's set as if he wasn't there. They couldn't shut their mouths for one second and give a man singing his heart out in front of them a little respect. Dylan LeBlanc is one of the most gifted singer-songwriters to come along in decades. He's beloved in other countries. It's a shame he's not treated the same way in his own country. Lissie's fans are obviously self-centered, rude, obnoxious and wouldn't know talent if it hit them in the face.
Dylan if you are reading this, you were superb last night. I left the show after your set. Keep making great music.
Also it would have been nice if 9:30 Club announced Dylan before he came on. That might have helped. They also rudely started breaking down his set before Dylan had the chance to walk off the stage. I think he was going to do an encore but decided otherwise when the house lights came on and people started walking onto the stage. I doubt I'll come back to this place.
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opening acts very rarely ever get or take encores and it's not unique to the 930 club either....
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who the hell is Dylan LeBlanc? FYI, it's not his concert...he is an opener!
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So I went to the Dylan LeBlanc concert last night. Who the hell is Lissie by the way?
let's be clear: this wasn't a dylan leblanc concert. who the hell is lissie? the headliner, and the person your dylan agreed to open for. the majority of people go to the show to see the main act. unfortuantely, one cannot expect openers to get start treatment. and as kosmo pointed out openers don't get encores.
one cannot blame the club for the behavior of it's patrons. what did you expect the 930 to do? send out a manager and shush the crowd? have security throw out every person who wasn't absolutely silent? so, you're statement "I doubt I'll come back to this place" comes across like a spoiled child.
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Which boardie regular signed up with a new screen name and started this thread hoping to give us some Monday morning entertainment.
Nice job! I wish I had thought of that.
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I swear the announcement/encore stuff was not there when I first read this thread. That is pure hilarity.
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one cannot blame the club for the behavior of it's patrons. what did you expect the 930 to do? send out a manager and shush the crowd? have security throw out every person who wasn't absolutely silent? so, you're statement "I doubt I'll come back to this place" comes across like a spoiled child.
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Uh, where in my message did I say the management should have done something about the crowd noise? You have the attention span of a Lissie fan. Is it too much for Lissie fans to act like adults and allow a far more talented musician to perform his set?
If you find nothing wrong with the way the crowd treated Dylan, you're a waste of air.
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Uh, where in my message did I say the management should have done something about the crowd noise?
i'm assuming, possibly wrongly, that you're intelligent enough to realize that all sorts of acts play the 930 thus attracting all sorts of crowds. saying you won't go back to venue because of one crowd is placing the blame on the wrong party. would have been more logical for you to say that you won't be going to lissie shows anymore.
Is it too much for Lissie fans to act like adults and allow a far more talented musician to perform his set?
no, that's quite a reasonable ask, but it'll fall on deaf ears. lissie fans aren't the only ones who talk through openers. sorry that they ruined your evening of fanboydom.
If you find nothing wrong with the way the crowd treated Dylan, you're a waste of air.
if you had an attention span better than that of a Dylan LeBlanc fan, you would have noticed that i characterized the crowd's behavior as unfortunate. for those with a basic command of the english language, that's a negative judgement.
does your mom know you're on the computer, alone, again?
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I guess people don't care for a nobody?
If you find nothing wrong with the way the crowd treated Dylan, you're a waste of air.
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ummm he was just up here in nyc this weekend and all i know is the mercury lounge had a huge line to get into the show. there were other bands on the line-up, but just because he's yet to cross your radar - doesnt mean hes a nobody.
oh wait.....
I guess people don't care for a nobody?
If you find nothing wrong with the way the crowd treated Dylan, you're a waste of air.
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So I went to the Dylan LeBlanc concert last night. Who the hell is Lissie by the way? Lissie's fans talked all the way through Dylan's set as if he wasn't there. They couldn't shut their mouths for one second and give a man singing his heart out in front of them a little respect. Dylan LeBlanc is one of the most gifted singer-songwriters to come along in decades. He's beloved in other countries. It's a shame he's not treated the same way in his own country. Lissie's fans are obviously self-centered, rude, obnoxious and wouldn't know talent if it hit them in the face.
Dylan if you are reading this, you were superb last night. I left the show after your set. Keep making great music.
Also it would have been nice if 9:30 Club announced Dylan before he came on. That might have helped. They also rudely started breaking down his set before Dylan had the chance to walk off the stage. I think he was going to do an encore but decided otherwise when the house lights came on and people started walking onto the stage. I doubt I'll come back to this place.
Sorry for your unfortunate experience, but the harsh reality is that this is generally the type of treatment opening acts often get and why most artists strive for headliner status. Additionally opening acts have a limited length of time allotted for their set and rarely if ever do an encore. In fact that would be rather rude and might be considered upstaging the main act. Also acts are almost never introduced or announced before coming on stage, that goes for headliners as well. Sometimes the lights will dim or some intro music will play, but again this is generally reserved for the main act. The opening acts job is mostly to warm up the room and the crowd, but unfortunately this is often the time in which people are filing in, getting drinks and catching up with friends. I can see where this might be frustrating for a hardcore fan of a support act, but it's pretty standard. I think perhaps you had unrealistic expectations coming in. That being said, ruling out 9:30 based on this experience means you'll be missing out on a ton of really great live music.
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ummm, lemme guess...he played a headlining set at mercury lounge? of course he's somebody when it's his own show.
ummm he was just up here in nyc this weekend and all i know is the mercury lounge had a huge line to get into the show. there were other bands on the line-up, but just because he's yet to cross your radar - doesnt mean hes a nobody.
oh wait.....
I guess people don't care for a nobody?
If you find nothing wrong with the way the crowd treated Dylan, you're a waste of air.
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Joe, shut up and take your pwning like a man (bitch).
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Joe, shut up and take your pwning like a man (bitch).
Need I say more? Typical Lissie fan I guess. Same people that post mindless comments on YouTube.
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Joe's a super mega lissie fan.
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He will be, as soon as she gets her first positive blog write-up.
Joe's a super mega lissie fan.
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POTW
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Dylan LeBlanc was funny on "Friends" but I didn't care much for the spin-off show he did after "Friends" ended.
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Shadrach,
Thanks for your respectful and intelligent response. That's rare these days with the YouTube crowd. I understand the 9:30 Club treats all musicians equally, fair enough. That doesn't mean though the crowd can't exhibit a little respect and courtesy for all musicians. It's exciting to see a star in the making at small clubs. Lissie fans missed that thrill. If you don't believe me, read what the Wash Post had to say about Dylan when he came to the 9:30 Club last October.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/13/AR2010101307269.html
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If you find nothing wrong with the way the crowd treated Dylan, you're a waste of air.
You're VERY perceptive! He really IS. But maybe he's just getting warmed up. He hasn't reached 10,000 posts yet. It's the hipster version of Malcom Gladwell's "reps" theory.
Dylan LeBlanc is probably a very talented, young, singer-songwriter. I'm sorry he was treated poorly but that's what DC crowds ARE. Mom and Daddy paid for their massively overpriced, liberal arts educations and they go to places like the 9:30 club to do three things:
1.) Mark time.
2.) Talk on their cellphones.
3.) Loiter.
Here's a perfect example: They treated Dylan LeBlanc poorly but stood in rapt silence to watch Courtney Love practice her Mel Bay chords for 47 straight hours.
P.S. They also genuflect for Nick Cave, Radiohead, Wilco, etc. basically everyone Pitchfork used to give >9 for but now give <6 for. Hipster DC crowds....discerning they're NOT.
Brian
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brian talks all through every pink floyd and springsteen show. he's so rude.
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I think it's the coat check staff.
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He may be the next Neil Young, but he's still a dumbass who smokes cigarettes. Bought from the tobacco store!
Reaching LeBlanc on the phone, this seems even more true. He's not playing video games, he's simply out in Muscle Shoals, Ala., buying cigarettes. And not at a CVS or 7-Eleven. "At the tobacco store," he says in a soft, Southern drawl while slightly trailing off, which is how he says most things.
Shadrach,
Thanks for your respectful and intelligent response. That's rare these days with the YouTube crowd. I understand the 9:30 Club treats all musicians equally, fair enough. That doesn't mean though the crowd can't exhibit a little respect and courtesy for all musicians. It's exciting to see a star in the making at small clubs. Lissie fans missed that thrill. If you don't believe me, read what the Wash Post had to say about Dylan when he came to the 9:30 Club last October.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/13/AR2010101307269.html
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whoops wrong thread, never mind
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for the dylan leblanc fan:
http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2011/02/dylan_leblanc_p.html#comments
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I have seen this happen with the headliners not just openers. It is as if these people think that band they paid $20+ to see is background music. It sucks when it happens, but sometimes if you work your way to the front, the PA drowns out the people.
As to introducing bands, that usually is when there is some radio station or the like involved with the show or some of these battle of the bands thing. And an opener encore would have to be blessed by the headliner or the scam of leaving stage early to come back to fill their alotted time.
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Encores for headliners are stupid if they're planned...the thought of openers doing them is just sickening.
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Encores for headliners are stupid if they're planned...the thought of openers doing them is just sickening.
Can be cool if the opener has the headliner (or members of the band) come out for a song. Often bands have encores on the set list, but then if don't feel like it don't play those songs. This I am okay with, but yeah, the contrived ones (unless it is bathroom break) just mean a longer show without more music.
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Weird how it is expected at nearly every concert now.
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Weird how it is expected at nearly every concert now.
Some of my all time favorite shows had no encore (Sex Pistols at the club and The Stone Roses when it was WUST).
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I think Shadrach and Sir HC both put it very well.
It's annoying when people's talking reaches the level of a din, but this happens a lot during opening acts' sets and fairly often during headliners' sets.
I've been pleasantly surprised the times that I've seen a "quiet" act performing, like Kings of Convenience or Jonsi, and the audience is rapt and listening instead of chattering.
Sorry for your unfortunate experience, but the harsh reality is that this is generally the type of treatment opening acts often get and why most artists strive for headliner status. Additionally opening acts have a limited length of time allotted for their set and rarely if ever do an encore. In fact that would be rather rude and might be considered upstaging the main act. Also acts are almost never introduced or announced before coming on stage, that goes for headliners as well. Sometimes the lights will dim or some intro music will play, but again this is generally reserved for the main act. The opening acts job is mostly to warm up the room and the crowd, but unfortunately this is often the time in which people are filing in, getting drinks and catching up with friends. I can see where this might be frustrating for a hardcore fan of a support act, but it's pretty standard. I think perhaps you had unrealistic expectations coming in. That being said, ruling out 9:30 based on this experience means you'll be missing out on a ton of really great live music.
I have seen this happen with the headliners not just openers. It is as if these people think that band they paid $20+ to see is background music. It sucks when it happens, but sometimes if you work your way to the front, the PA drowns out the people.
As to introducing bands, that usually is when there is some radio station or the like involved with the show or some of these battle of the bands thing. And an opener encore would have to be blessed by the headliner or the scam of leaving stage early to come back to fill their alotted time.
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Some of my all time favorite shows had no encore (Sex Pistols at the club and The Stone Roses when it was WUST).
Oh man... wish I had gotten to see that Stone Roses show!
(Sex Pistols too, for that matter, but that would be reaching back into the realm of impossibility.)
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Some of my all time favorite shows had no encore (Sex Pistols at the club and The Stone Roses when it was WUST).
Oh man... wish I had gotten to see that Stone Roses show!
(Sex Pistols too, for that matter, but that would be reaching back into the realm of impossibility.)
Oh no, this was the 2003 Sex Pistols tour with all the original lineup. It was great, they sounded great, the crew said it was the most enjoyable tour they have been on, and they were having fun.
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Oh no, this was the 2003 Sex Pistols tour with all the original lineup. It was great, they sounded great, the crew said it was the most enjoyable tour they have been on, and they were having fun.
Ahhh, OK. Somehow that one escaped my notice; maybe I was out of town or something.
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Oh no, this was the 2003 Sex Pistols tour with all the original lineup. It was great, they sounded great, the crew said it was the most enjoyable tour they have been on, and they were having fun.
Ahhh, OK. Somehow that one escaped my notice; maybe I was out of town or something.
Think it was August, day after Ricky Iglesias played.
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Hey, look who is opening for Lucinda Williams.
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Sorry Sir HC, but the Stone Roses DID indeed play an encore, and it was one their very first at the time as a way of saying "sorry" for the fuckup at Gaston Hall the earlier night. They played "Fools Gold".
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Sorry Sir HC, but the Stone Roses DID indeed play an encore, and it was one their very first at the time as a way of saying "sorry" for the fuckup at Gaston Hall the earlier night. They played "Fools Gold".
Okay, I was there for Fools Gold, but I did not remember it being an encore. But then again, my memories are a bit fuzzy on the whole thing.
At the time I knew some of the physical plant guys at Georgetown, and they said that Ian tried to push the PA off stage and toss the microphone through the stained glass window because he didn't want seats where they played.
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I have a pretty classic story about that gig. I was one of the first few people in line, and was outside the hall when the Roses were sound-checking. At a certain point the music stopped and Ian came out and walked right up to me and says, "mate, you need to tell the crowd that the gig is off. The PA is crap, and we can't do the show. We'll do the gig tomorrow night somewhere else." I'm just like "EXCUSE ME?" I figure it's Ian Brown talking, so I turn around and yell at the top of my lungs to the now growing line and am greeted with shouts of "fuck you" and "you've got to be fucking kidding me". I was with 3 other people that I had somehow started to talk and bond with, and we ended up taking refuge with the Roses. Somehow I followed them as people start freaking out and started getting confrontational. Some had traveled from Atlanta and other places, and they were pissed. I manage to end up on the tour bus and they told me they were staying at the Ritz in Dupont Circle. They signed all my CDs I had with me, and Ian commented about my "Stand Still" bootleg and asked me where I got it because he wanted one. They asked what there was to do in DC, so I just said "well, there's an English-style pub around the corner from your hotel called the Brickskeller". So they suggested that we meet up there. I met back up with my other new "friends" and the band went back to the hotel to chill out for a bit. We walked by the hotel and recognized a couple roadies, who said "go fetch the band". I remember calling up to Ian's room and he said they were just going to chill with a big bag of weed. So we got to hang with their roadies instead. It was such a surreal evening. The next night was the show at WUST, which was fantastic. Mani was the coolest.
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Now THAT's a story!
I remember at Gaston Hall that night walking up a stairwell where I saw Ian Brown by himself . . . it was jarring. He was SO British Rockstar-y with his big head on a tiny body, his kind of weathered but still boyish look and seemingly age inappropriate moddish (?) haircut. That brush with greatness alone was awesome.
I thought I remembered them ending with Fool's Gold encore but wasn't positive. If memory serves, like on the US album, it wouldn't have hurt to have ended with I Am The Resurrection (although I do love Fool's Gold) . . . I Am The Resurrection was Epic . . . and Fool's Gold was cool but a bit off - in particular I think I recall the imposter/antichrist in place of Reni and/or drum machine loop wasn't quite on point
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You guys are as bad as a bunch of blockheads worshipping their football jock heroes.
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LOL...whatever. It's a funny story from when I was 20 years old. Lighten up and have a good laugh. I am past caring about celebutards now, back then I was having an "Almost Famous" moment. I'm glad I'm not as jaded as some other people when it comes to music though.
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You guys are as bad as a bunch of blockheads worshipping their football jock heroes.
Could be beer.
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You guys are as bad as a bunch of blockheads worshipping their football jock heroes.
Could be beer.
Or you could just adopt an one of your favorite artist's name as your screen name...
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Thanks for the suggestion, Chaz.
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You guys are as bad as a bunch of blockheads worshipping their football jock heroes.
Could be beer.
Or you could just adopt an one of your favorite artist's name as your screen name...
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I don't know who that is but he's not nearly as fuckable as this indie rock dreamboat.
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